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Really the only concern about Daniels is his weight. If his pocket presence is as good as his accuracy it's not a big deal. He will take hits, as long as he can avoid most of them we're good.

I'm leaning more towards Daniels than Maye - Maye looks good physically but everybody says Daniels is the better player. Take the guy who can play football.

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Pretty crazy how tight lipped this front office is, we really have no idea which way they are leaning. Seems that more experts have us taking Maye, so because of that I'll say it will be Daniels. Either way I like the potential of both guys at #2 and won't hate it either way.

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Really think the weight thing with Daniels is overblown. He definitely needs to add some bulk to his frame, shouldn't be hard for him to add 10-15 lbs of good weight in the next few years.

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RG3 ptsd.

I love Daniels. I think he'll be very good in the NFL. I just worry about the hits he'll take.

Also, Staubach, Carmichael, Cunningham, etc were playing against 210# linebackers and 250# defensive lineman. Not really comparable.

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[quote=MTK;1360734]Really think the weight thing with Daniels is overblown. He definitely needs to add some bulk to his frame, shouldn't be hard for him to add 10-15 lbs of good weight in the next few years.[/quote]

My guess is he's already well on his way to doing that. Pro Day may surprise some folks...but I too think the weight thing is overblown.

Anyway, are NFL players that much bigger than SEC football players? I mean I know they are the elite of the elite, but it's not like he'll have LSU or AZ State players protecting him either.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1360738]My guess is he's already well on his way to doing that. Pro Day may surprise some folks...but I too think the weight thing is overblown.

Anyway, are NFL players that much bigger than SEC football players? I mean I know they are the elite of the elite,[B] but it's not like he'll have LSU or AZ State players protecting him either[/B].[/quote]


You sure about that?

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[quote=simbosargos75;1360737]RG3 ptsd.

I love Daniels. I think he'll be very good in the NFL. I just worry about the hits he'll take.

Also, Staubach, Carmichael, Cunningham, etc were playing against 210# linebackers and 250# defensive lineman. Not really comparable.[/quote]

RG3 was one of the worst open field runners to ever play in the NFL, no feel or vision. Just a straight line track guy who had no idea how to protect himself. Couldn't slide, wouldn't run out of bounds, not sure if it was ego or just stupidity.

I don't see Daniels in the same way.

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[quote=simbosargos75;1360737][B]RG3 ptsd.[/B]

I love Daniels. I think he'll be very good in the NFL. I just worry about the hits he'll take.

Also, Staubach, Carmichael, Cunningham, etc were playing against 210# linebackers and 250# defensive lineman. Not really comparable.[/quote]

Big facts. RG3 scared me off mobile quarterbacks lmao. I don't want to see any 200 lb qb refusing to slide just to prove a point.

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[quote=simbosargos75;1360737]RG3 ptsd.

I love Daniels. I think he'll be very good in the NFL. I just worry about the hits he'll take.

Also, Staubach, Carmichael, Cunningham, etc were playing against 210# linebackers and 250# defensive lineman. [B]Not really comparable.[/B][/quote]

not really a fact statement

[I]The impression that players at every position are much bigger and stronger than previous generations is not always true. Sometimes the ideal body type for today’s game is actually smaller.[/I]

[url]https://operations.nfl.com/inside-football-ops/players-legends/evolution-of-the-nfl-player/[/url]

take that with all the new rules since cunninghams days to protect the QB and i think its very comparable

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[quote=simbosargos75;1360742]You sure about that?[/quote]

Yes, I'm sure. He will have NFL players protecting him if he is on an NFL team.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1360744]RG3 was one of the worst open field runners to ever play in the NFL, no feel or vision. Just a straight line track guy who had no idea how to protect himself. Couldn't slide, wouldn't run out of bounds, not sure if it was ego or just stupidity.

I don't see Daniels in the same way.[/QUOTE]


[emoji817] dude just sprinted like it was a race.

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[QUOTE=mredskins;1360714]going throw a name out there

Randall Cunningham; playing heaight and weight 6-4 214 ilbs

had i say a pretty good career and played at a time when QBs were not so protected by the rules

JD ends up like Randall i be pretty happy with that pick[/QUOTE]


I said Harold Carmichael in the previous post. He would be a WR. Meant Randall Cunningham. Lol

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[QUOTE=MTK;1360733]Pretty crazy how tight lipped this front office is, we really have no idea which way they are leaning. Seems that more experts have us taking Maye, so because of that I'll say it will be Daniels. Either way I like the potential of both guys at #2 and won't hate it either way.[/QUOTE]


Any chance it is because they don’t want NE to know who they prefer because they are thinking trade back one spot with the Pats, giving the Pats first choice?
If the Pats know we prefer Maye for example and the Pats prefer JD it would not make sense to move up one spot. But if the Pats prefer one or the other and want to make sure they get him than they might be willing to move into that second spot.

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A front office exuding competence is so weird.

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Burrow, Herbert, Cousins all injured last year. None are considered runners. Rodgers went out for the year taking a damn snap. Tons of guys at all different positions big and small, fast and slow, get injured every single week. It is a violent sport. WR’s are running full speed and in the absolute most vulnerable positions and are usually skinny and fast, but 300 pound lineman who run nowhere get hurt just as often. The whole he is skinny and runs so he is going to get hurt is absolute hogwash.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1360753]Yes, I'm sure. He will have NFL players protecting him if he is on an NFL team.[/quote]


Sorry. I was trying to be funny.

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[quote=simbosargos75;1360770]Sorry. I was trying to be funny.[/quote]

Ha! All good, man!

I thought you were implying that our O-line sucks, but we all know that's not the case 😀

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[quote=punch it in;1360767]Burrow, Herbert, Cousins all injured last year. None are considered runners. Rodgers went out for the year taking a damn snap. Tons of guys at all different positions big and small, fast and slow, get injured every single week. It is a violent sport. WR’s are running full speed and in the absolute most vulnerable positions and are usually skinny and fast, but 300 pound lineman who run nowhere get hurt just as often. The whole he is skinny and runs so he is going to get hurt is absolute hogwash.[/quote]Thank you!

Are we seriously not going to draft a stud qb because he's 6'4" and 210 lbs because he COULD get hurt since he's smaller? Huh? We are still hungover from the RG3 effect with this attitude. Any qb could get hurt. Daniels is superb at evading the pass rush which will also help with avoiding devastating blind side hits. This is not Penix with injuries. Kid's injury history is quite good with 2 years in the SEC even and 5 in D1 football. Massive difference in defensive players v. Big XII with RG3.

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[quote=mredskins;1360646]Exactly what was the point of this thread that isn't already discussed in multiply threads?[/quote]

Damn, I got pulled over by the thread police. Hopefully I can be let-off with a warning.

I thought our next swing at a franchise QB was something that warranted it's own thread. We get it right/lucky, we're gucci, and winning a Super Bowl when RFK is our home/future home stadium.

I'm on the J.D. hype train still (McCarthy is my official No. 2 now though):

[YT]T1QHAD4qGgg[/YT]

I can't see YouTube (on this site) on my phone or computer anymore. I have no idea if I posted this properly.

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Please let me know if you can watch the above video. If so, I'll just assume that a big blank white space that I can't watch myself, means it's posted right.

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[quote=MTK;1360744]RG3 was one of the worst open field runners to ever play in the NFL, no feel or vision. Just a straight line track guy who had no idea how to protect himself. Couldn't slide, wouldn't run out of bounds, not sure if it was ego or just stupidity.

I don't see Daniels in the same way.[/quote]

Agreed Jaden runs more like Cunningham and Lamar vs RG3 did, and he actually knows how to slide.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1360777]Agreed Jaden runs more like Cunningham and Lamar vs RG3 did, and he actually knows how to slide.[/quote]

If he can't or won't learn how to slide, I don't want him.

RG3's "I'm as tough as anybody on the field and I'll fight for every yard" mentality ruined his entire career. The best ability is availability.

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[quote=mooby;1360778]If he can't or won't learn how to slide, I don't want him.

RG3's "I'm as tough as anybody on the field and I'll fight for every yard" mentality ruined his entire career. The best ability is availability.[/quote]

True, luckily jaden does know how to slide, he's taken a couple hits but its football everyone who runs will get hit at some point, he is much better laterally than RG3 was too

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1360777]Agreed Jaden runs more like Cunningham and Lamar vs RG3 did, and he actually knows how to slide.[/quote]

Well from what I've seen Daniels one of the criticisms of Daniels is he doesn't protect himself while running (Which means he is more like RG3.

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[quote=nonniey;1360784]Well from what I've seen Daniels one of the criticisms of Daniels is he doesn't protect himself while running (Which means he is more like RG3.[/quote]

RG3 simply wasn't able to protect himself. Daniels has the capability, he just has to be smarter about what hits you can take in the NFL. And when it's possibly worth the risk or not. There's a difference between the two.

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[quote=nonniey;1360784]Well from what I've seen Daniels one of the criticisms of Daniels is he doesn't protect himself while running (Which means he is more like RG3.[/quote]

RG3 couldnt, Ive seen Daniels protect himself and slide. In Daniels career, I have seen him take 3 hits that were like, that was a hard one.

2 were blindsides and the one against Ole Miss he had just gotten away from a defender and his teammate missed a block and he got smacked

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1360788]RG3 couldnt, Ive seen Daniels protect himself and slide. In Daniels career, I have seen him take 3 hits that were like, that was a hard one.



2 were blindsides and the one against Ole Miss he had just gotten away from a defender and his teammate missed a block and he got smacked[/QUOTE]I saw him take one that looked exactly like RG3's Baltimore hit. In fact I watched the whole compilation of his runs and often times he was pushing for that extra yard and I didn't see him slide once in those clips.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1360785]RG3 simply wasn't able to protect himself. Daniels has the capability, he just has to be smarter about what hits you can take in the NFL. And when it's possibly worth the risk or not. There's a difference between the two.[/quote]

The brass is meeting with McCarthy tonight for dinner before pro day tomorrow.
I’m hearing more about Vikings wanting to trade up for Maye.

We may(e) end up with a haul of picks, a second tier QB like McCarthy or Penix. I’m also hearing Justin Jefferson is in play. 👀

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[quote=Redskin Jim;1360790]The brass is meeting with McCarthy tonight for dinner before pro day tomorrow.
I’m hearing more about Vikings wanting to trade up for Maye.

We may(e) end up with a haul of picks, a second tier QB like McCarthy or Penix. I’m also hearing [B]Justin Jefferson[/B] is in play. 👀[/quote]

fun watch him run routes and no one to actually THROW the ball to him

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[quote=mredskins;1360793]fun watch him run routes and no one to actually THROW the ball to him[/quote]

I know a lot of you are enamored with Daniels and Maye. I’m not sure there’s a whole lot of drop off between them and Penix and McCarthy. Sprinkle in 2 #1s, 2#2s and JJ, I’ll take it in a heartbeat.

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The last thing I want is a running QB. Yes be able to get out of pocket to avoid pressure, be athletic and be able to make plays off script.

You must win from the pocket passing the ball.

Don’t be what happened to Anthony Richardson last year, all that does is bring us back to square one.

You can give Lamar Jackson the top scoring defense in the league AND a top five running game. Every god damn year in the playoffs defensive coordinator do the samething “beat me from the pocket Lamar” and he comes up short.

Pass that type of player

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I'd take a pick haul from Minnesota, why not. Not sold on the top 3 qbs so I would take a worth while trade

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[quote=Redskin Jim;1360794]I know a lot of you are enamored with Daniels and Maye. I’m not sure there’s a whole lot of drop off between them and Penix and McCarthy. Sprinkle in 2 #1s, 2#2s and JJ, I’ll take it in a heartbeat.[/quote]

There's a huge drop off between the top 3 and the rest otherwise they'd be talked about in the same class as the other 3.

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I am committed to accepting the front office's decision

All fans should repeat this affirmation to themselves in the morning, at lunch and in the evening.


We have grown up football people making grown up decisions. Can they be wrong, yes, but they have earned the chance to make This specific decision.


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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1360775]Damn, I got pulled over by the thread police. Hopefully I can be let-off with a warning.

I thought our next swing at a franchise QB was something that warranted it's own thread. We get it right/lucky, we're gucci, and winning a Super Bowl when RFK is our home/future home stadium.

I'm on the J.D. hype train still (McCarthy is my official No. 2 now though):

[YT]T1QHAD4qGgg[/YT]

I can't see YouTube (on this site) on my phone or computer anymore. I have no idea if I posted this properly.[/quote]


I like McCarthy too. Pro system and was consistent.
I’m just not a fan of Maye. Maybe he’s too similar to Howell. Inconsistent on throws and can’t read defenses according to Kurt Warner.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1360775]Damn, I got pulled over by the thread police. Hopefully I can be let-off with a warning.

I thought our next swing at a franchise QB was something that warranted it's own thread. We get it right/lucky, we're gucci, and winning a Super Bowl when RFK is our home/future home stadium.

I'm on the J.D. hype train still (McCarthy is my official No. 2 now though):

[YT]T1QHAD4qGgg[/YT]

I can't see YouTube (on this site) on my phone or computer anymore. I have no idea if I posted this properly.[/quote]
Do better

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[quote=mredskins;1360809]Do better[/quote]

[IMG]https://i.imgflip.com/8k4yna.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1360810][IMG]https://i.imgflip.com/8k4yna.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

that was your warning, ha


i was original just confused why we had two draft threads, its all good

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1st time coming across this site.

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[url]https://lastwordonsports.com/nfl/2024/03/19/2024-nfl-quarterback-tier-rankings/[/url]

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[quote=Redskin Jim;1360794]I know a lot of you are enamored with Daniels and Maye. I’m not sure there’s a whole lot of drop off between them and Penix and McCarthy. Sprinkle in 2 #1s, 2#2s and JJ, I’ll take it in a heartbeat.[/quote]

As long as they don't trade up to #1 or draft Penix, I'm fine with any result tbh.