Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

At this point, Marty is better because his team has won four in a row and is in a better position to make the playoffs. Gibbs always will be remembered as one of the best of all time. But his return to coaching will be looked at as a failure.

Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

[QUOTE=Bushead]Sure, the defense does have problems. Can't use just the 4 down lineman to make pressure. Don't have the depth at Corner they use to. But, to blame this game on the defense? How?[/QUOTE]

You're right, the defense made no mistakes at all in this game. How dare Mark Brunell allow LT to run for that game winning TD.

Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

[QUOTE=skinsguy]You're right, the defense made no mistakes at all in this game. How dare Mark Brunell allow LT to run for that game winning TD.[/QUOTE]

Seriously! How did he? He can't tackle to save his life.

Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

The game shouldn't have ever gotten to that point. That interception was a big ass present i would think. Every good team in the NFL would take advantage of that. Every team that has a "decent" offense. Even with the 10 yard penalty, there was two more downs to make up for the misque.

Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

How dare Brunell for throwing those balls away. How dare Brunell to take a gift horse in the mouth of the ball on the 30 and choking to give the ball back. How dare Brunell with all those 3 and outs that put our team in such a crappy situation.

I saw the "D" miss a few plays but also play like beasts while our O got flags, made NO yards and very little points.

SD scores an average of 30 points a game on ALL teams.

Our D stopped them at Less and our O could not meet the challenge.

The loss is in the O's lap in my opinion

Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

Yeah, our defense had no penalities at all today. They allowed no rushing yards or TDs for LT at all. They gave our offense a shot at winning in overtime.

Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]Seriously! How did he? He can't tackle to save his life.[/QUOTE]


He should have known better to have not stayed on the sidelines with the rest of the offensive unit while S.D.'s offense was on the field in overtime. He should dropped that water bottle and went after LT! :laughing2

Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

[QUOTE=skinsguy]Yeah, our defense had no penalities at all today. They allowed no rushing yards or TDs for LT at all. They gave our offense a shot at winning in overtime.[/QUOTE]

So WHAT IS yer point?

The Offence did good?!
The Defence is 100% to blame?
Both suck but D sucked more?
You have a crush on Brunell and he's the golden child?

The whole game and can play and noone is to blame until the LAST play? And they are the reason?

My point...the O sucks. Line can't block, Brunell chokes and they can't score on a fat chick in West VA.

Discuss

Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

Sammybaughfan

In skinsguy's defense, he has said that both the offense and defense need to improve.

Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]Sammybaughfan

In skinsguy's defense, he has said that both the offense and defense need to improve.[/QUOTE]

Bwhahahaha!
Did that NEED to be said?

Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

[QUOTE=Sammy Baugh Fan]So WHAT IS yer point?

The Offence did good?!
The Defence is 100% to blame?
Both suck but D sucked more?
You have a crush on Brunell and he's the golden child?

The whole game and can play and noone is to blame until the LAST play? And they are the reason?

My point...the O sucks. Line can't block, Brunell chokes and they can't score on a fat chick in West VA.

Discuss[/QUOTE]


Thanks for making it personal. I appreciate it. At least try reading a few of my posts next time.

Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

[QUOTE=skinsguy]Thanks for making it personal. I appreciate it. At least try reading a few of my posts next time.[/QUOTE]

I don't think he meant to personally attack you. At least, I didn't interpret his post to go after you personally. Perhaps another internet miscommunication?

Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]I don't think he meant to personally attack you. At least, I didn't interpret his post to go after you personally. Perhaps another internet miscommunication?[/QUOTE]


No offense RF, but it really means nothing to me to hear that from anyone else but SBF. I can understand his frustration. We're all frustrated. But, I did find a touch personal. Not going to make a big deal about it. I'll just try to be the bigger man about it.

Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

I think everyone in every thread needs to drink a beer, take a deep breath, and think about someting other than football (and then return to this site).

On another topic, did anyone expect to beat San Diego?

Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

I can say sorry if you were offended. I was posting my thoughts and go figure my thoughts [like most folks] are not always excepted in the same way they are intended.

If the "crush on Brunell" comment offended you I am sorry but may I add that would be a little soft skinned after all the talk around here. I can tell you I think it's silly that THAT hurt your feeling but if your "feelings" really were hurt than I am sorry.

Oh and I did read all your comments and am still really looking for a point other than a rant and ranting to folks that reply.

Have a great day and Hail Skins
peace

NEXT!

Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]I think everyone in every thread needs to drink a beer, take a deep breath, and think about someting other than football (and then return to this site).

On another topic, did anyone expect to beat San Diego?[/QUOTE]

I actually did just for the reason that I didn't expect us to drop two games in a row at home, three games overall. I was surprised with how well we were shutting SD down for most of the game, but a little voice in the back of my head said that it couldn't last for the entire game. I do blame the defense for that, but certainly if our offense could have put up another TD, then I believe we would have had this game wrapped up. It's another argument of would've could've, should've. We didn't get the job done. I still believe overall this team has improved from last year, and at this point, I wouldn't be upset over 8-8 - however, I will be upset if this team ends up 6-10 again.

Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

[QUOTE=skinsguy]I actually did just for the reason that I didn't expect us to drop two games in a row at home, three games overall. I was surprised with how well we were shutting SD down for most of the game, but a little voice in the back of my head said that it couldn't last for the entire game. I do blame the defense for that, but certainly if our offense could have put up another TD, then I believe we would have had this game wrapped up. It's another argument of would've could've, should've. We didn't get the job done. I still believe overall this team has improved from last year, and at this point, I wouldn't be upset over 8-8 - however, I will be upset if this team ends up 6-10 again.[/QUOTE]

I would be suicidal if we went 6-10. But going from 6-10 to 8-8 is a two game improvement. That's taking us from a really bad team to an average one. I can stomach that (barely).

Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

Another 1st rounder for an indredibly high pick.... i was hoping this woulnd't happen

Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

another amazing quote from joe gibbs after the game. "I think we fought our hearts out". That's nice, but you say that after every loss. At least stop being so conservative in the fourth and try and put up an insurmountable lead.

Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

[QUOTE=Bushead]Another 1st rounder for an indredibly high pick.... i was hoping this woulnd't happen[/QUOTE]

I see us (or Denver rather) ending up with the 13th to 20th pick. I don't see Denver getting an "incredibly high pick."

Re: Marty Schottenheimer is better than Joe Gibbs
 

[QUOTE=TAFKAS]When you post the title as a statement the way you have been, people think that you believe it (whether or not you do) and really you're just looking to start something. It probably would have attracted less attention, or a more even toned response, if you had started these threads during the week. You know, Marty is coming back to town, would we be better off if he was still here? Something like that.[/QUOTE]

I'm simply trying to open up a discussion. I DID NOT state an opinion in the first post of the thread.

Re: Marty Schottenheimer is better than Joe Gibbs
 

[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]True, but it's kind of like posting a thread "Was Hitler all that bad?" on a website for Jewish Americans. You're kind of asking for it.[/QUOTE]

If you do not want to discuss the redskins on a redskins DISCUSSION forum then why the hell are you a ****ing moderator?

Seriously. Let people discuss on a discussion forum.

Re: Marty Schottenheimer is better than Joe Gibbs
 

[QUOTE=Bozzy]If you do not want to discuss the redskins on a redskins DISCUSSION forum then why the hell are you a ****ing moderator?

Seriously. Let people discuss on a discussion forum.[/QUOTE]

Bozzy, I don't know what your deal is but you need to chill. Reread my post - I was cracking a joke.

Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

PLAYCALLING stunk. really stunk. and royal needs a hand transplant. schotty has problems going ultra conservative too, and he's also lost a lot of the games the same way we lost one today.

Re: Marty Schottenheimer is better than Joe Gibbs
 

[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]Bozzy, I don't know what your deal is but you need to chill. Reread my post - I was cracking a joke.[/QUOTE]

I am calm, I just didn't detect that joke. My bad.

Re: Marty Schottenheimer is better than Joe Gibbs
 

[QUOTE=Bozzy]I'm simply trying to open up a discussion. I DID NOT state an opinion in the first post of the thread.[/QUOTE]

I know, I'm just telling you how people can interpret things based on the title of a thread

Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

Yeah I know, but I'm saying people should be more open.

Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

[QUOTE=Bozzy]Yeah I know, but I'm saying people should be more open.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you; almost any topic should be within bounds. However, after we endure a tough loss and fans are really disappointed, a lot of people will react the wrong way to a thread like this. It's just a timing issue. But, I'm not in any way, shape, or form trying to discourage an open debate about 99% of all topics.

Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

[QUOTE=Bozzy]Yeah I know, but I'm saying people should be more open.[/QUOTE]

The Subject was written [in my opinion] to fire emotions like throwing a rock into a pack of dogs.

It has nothing to do with "Open" now does it?
You gonna sit there behind that monitor and tell us the thread was not intended to insite a riot but to start an "Open Discussion"?
Really?

I call yer bluff.
peace
mike

Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

This thread is quickly getting ugly. I hesitate to lock it because I hate to shut down debate. But, I hate to see a thread devolve into a discussion about postsers. Let's all play nice.

Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

I'm stepping out not to return to THIS thread but enjoy the rest of the forum.
peace

Re: Marty Schottenheimer is better than Joe Gibbs
 

[QUOTE=skinsguy]AND the defense has as well. The defense has lost the last three games for us.[/QUOTE]
You cant win putting up 17 points.... Gibbs has no killer instinct.... we have 2 lesser games coming up watch everybody get all excited... THE BUCK STOPS WITH GIBBS!!!

Re: Marty Schottenheimer is better than Joe Gibbs
 

[QUOTE=railcon56@comcast.net]Gibbs has no killer instinct [/QUOTE]

i agree 110% on that one. whenever gibbs has any sort of lead, whether it's 3 points, 1 point, or 2 points, he never plays with a sence of urgency. He doesn't go for the kill, he goes for the wound. What i mean by that is he'll be satisfied if we have any sort of lead. It has hurt us 3 times in the last three games, and he needs to start being aggressive on offense in the fourth quarter if he wants to win some more games.

Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]This thread is quickly getting ugly. I hesitate to lock it because I hate to shut down debate. But, I hate to see a thread devolve into a discussion about postsers. Let's all play nice.[/QUOTE]
Please people Be Mad about the loss but NO PERSONAL INSULTS PLEASE!!!!

Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

How about we just start a who's better than Gibbs thread after every loss.

Really productive.

Seriously, what's the point?

Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

[QUOTE=mooby]another amazing quote from joe gibbs after the game. "I think we fought our hearts out". That's nice, but you say that after every loss. At least stop being so conservative in the fourth and try and put up an insurmountable lead.[/QUOTE]
Norv used to say that kind of stuff!!! Try cutting poeple and clearing the gatorade table!!

Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

As for Gibbs saying, "I think our guys fought their guts out," what is he supposed to say? Is he supposed to say, well our team stinks, we're going to lose next week and every week thereafter, and I'm going to quit?

Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

Why do we question gibbs in head to head matches with the coaches he loses to?

Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

Tough to answer straight up but Marty did go 0-5 his first five games here in D.C. and turned it around and finished 8-8.

Re: Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?
 

I say we skip games and see how good GIBBS is and have him fist fight other Coaches.
Seems players are not accountable and games are 100% won by Coaches.

If this is True Minnesota may win the Super Bowl.

Pretzel Logic

peace