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skinsguy 12-29-2005 09:11 AM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
This just isn't the time for stupid crap like this to take place. I don't care who's at fault. Maybe Gibbs should have placed a gag order on the players talking to the media this week..who knows!?

BrudLee 12-29-2005 09:26 AM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
You all may be underestimating Dan Snyder's opinion of LaVar.

LaVar was a pallbearer in his father's funeral a few years ago. Whether this was done out of some sense of obligation or not, I am of the opinion that it makes Snyder view LaVar as something more than an employee.

LadyT 12-29-2005 09:44 AM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
[QUOTE=Southpaw]There's not even any point in discussing whether or not LaVar will be here next year. He's done as a Redskin. Everyone is making a very valid point about how it's cheaper to keep him, but when has dead cap space ever been a concern in Washington? Deion Sanders, Jeff George, Stephen Davis, Jeremiah Trotter, Laverneus Coles... any of those names ring a bell? Snyder could care less about dead cap money, especially when he's being called out by a player on his team.

So yes, LaVar will be gone after this season, and everyone will turn on him for wanting out of possibly the worst run team in the league(I'm talking about the front office, not the coaching staff), just like we turned on Champ Bailey, Fred Smoot, Antonio Pierce, and every other standout player who has left for valid reasons. And five years down the road, when the same thing has happened to Brunell, and probably Portis and Taylor, I'm sure we'll all have turned on them by then too. That's just the way we do it in Washington.[/QUOTE]

LaVar's timing couldn't have been worse, but that's water under the bridge now. Having said that, I agree with your assessment 100%. There's something very, very wrong with an organization where so many standout players have left angry and bitter at the club. When I say "organization", I'm not talking about the coaches. There's only been one constant during all these years of upheaval and loss of good players and that constant is the ownership of the team by Dan Snyder and the day-to-day running of things by his incompetent sycophants.

Again, I don't believe it was right for LaVar to air his discontent at this point in time. It can only hurt the team right now. But, it's very obvious that he is extremely frustrated, just as it was obvious for Champ, Antonio, Smoot and countless other exceptional players who left here in bitterness.

When Cooke owned the team, he was greatly respected, and even loved, by many of the players. I can't think of one player current or past who feels the same way about Snyder.

I feel bad for Joe because he's caught in the middle. He is paid by Snyder and, of course, has to remain loyal to the man. Yet, there's a part of me that believes Joe hates to lose good players and is troubled by the mismanagement of this team by Snyder and his cronies.

JDESKIN 12-29-2005 09:52 AM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
We all know how the media loves to try to stir up shit here in Washington. Hell MEDIA does nothing but do what the $%^& they want to do. I bet the ass who did that original miss informed piece is nothing more than a COWgirl/Gwoman fan. THE sadest shit of all is how many people believe that SHIT they right....

MTK 12-29-2005 09:59 AM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
[QUOTE=LadyT]LaVar's timing couldn't have been worse, but that's water under the bridge now. Having said that, I agree with your assessment 100%. There's something very, very wrong with an organization where so many standout players have left angry and bitter at the club. When I say "organization", I'm not talking about the coaches. There's only been one constant during all these years of upheaval and loss of good players and that constant is the ownership of the team by Dan Snyder and the day-to-day running of things by his incompetent sycophants.

Again, I don't believe it was right for LaVar to air his discontent at this point in time. It can only hurt the team right now. But, it's very obvious that he is extremely frustrated, just as it was obvious for Champ, Antonio, Smoot and countless other exceptional players who left here in bitterness.

When Cooke owned the team, he was greatly respected, and even loved, by many of the players. I can't think of one player current or past who feels the same way about Snyder.

I feel bad for Joe because he's caught in the middle. He is paid by Snyder and, of course, has to remain loyal to the man. Yet, there's a part of me that believes Joe hates to lose good players and is troubled by the mismanagement of this team by Snyder and his cronies.[/QUOTE]

I really don't think this is something that's exclusive to the Redskins.

Look around the league and you'll see plenty of players who leave their former team feeling disrespected. It's part of the game in today's modern free agency era.

When players leave for more $$ elsewhere, of course they're going to have some bitterness towards their former team initially. Again, they feel disrespected and unappreciated.

I think at times we're so focused on just the Redskins we lose sight that many things that the Redskins go through, the rest of the league does too.

Cooke owned the team during a different era, it's apples and oranges.

mheisig 12-29-2005 09:59 AM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
[QUOTE=BigSKINBauer]i don't care if they locked lavar up in a cage, made him preform dances for the Big Dan, serve the players and feed him raw meat this was not the time to say this shit. It is a distraction and i don't care about the circumstances or that it isn't my life. He is a millioniare, hell the interview was given in his 20,000 sq ft. mansion. This isn't the time. Gibbs said that he wishes everyone in the town was focused on philly. Well with this shit i know that isn't gonna happen and it is not easy. Ofcourse it is a distraction. Lavar going into this game and thinking it might be his last game of his career(that is where he acts like a pre madonna)is a distraction.

Gibbs said ifanyone would say somehting like that now it is rediculous. So i will go by what gibbs said. It -being lavar- is rediculous. I road his band wagon to the ground. The thing is he does love the fans and we do love him. i don't know what the **** he is talking about. The fact is we can't cut him. Maybe he learned that the cap situation favors the redskins by a lot like the reporter said-6.5 million- and now is scared this might be his last game as a skin. If the cap is the way i think it is then lavar will be here next year and now NOW he has a problem with management. I think that he still is GREAT not good great and i don't need to saythat he is my favorite player anymore because he is LAVAR ARRINGTON the face of the redkins.

I just want him here next year playing for us with him mouth shut.[/QUOTE]

GoodNESS. If I buy you a beer will you calm the hell down?

hurrykaine 12-29-2005 10:22 AM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
The Washington Times is a poor excuse for a newspaper. They could've really capitalized on the strained relations between the Redskins and the Wash. Post, but they didn't, choosing instead to stick to sub-standard reporting.

Lavar is right - the timing of this article is deplorable. I believe him when he says that a writer can spin things to convey a certain point of view. Lavar is rightly concerned and frustrated about his future with the organization, but he's made it clear that its about winning the upcoming game first and making the playoffs.

Bottom line: a win against Philly, and all this will be forgotten (at least till our season ends).

Note to Jeremiah: You do not talk about our team and players. Since when are you a talent assessor and linebackers coach? Take your tail to the damp and cold NFC east cellar and live out the offseason.

skinsfan1982 12-29-2005 10:33 AM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
Lavar Arrington will not have the same physical capabilities as he once did with the injuries he's suffered in the past years. It's pretty obvious if you look at what he's saying , but like any man with too much pride, he's attempting to blame somebody else for his own shortcomings. Lavar proves that he is not a true Redskin, despite the fact that he believes fans view him as some sort of Brett Farve or Ray Lewis, when he airs out his issues at the most inopportune time of the year.

For all that talk about Smoot, Bailey, Stephen Davis, etc.

I actually was pretty pleased with how Daniel Snyder dealt with them. Although Champ Bailey has done well for the Broncos, he has not been the one player to put them over the top. The two times the Broncos played the Colts in the playoffs, Manning and the passing attack ripped them apart. Snyder and the Front Office do deserve some criticism for giving up an additional 2nd round pick in the Bailey-Portis trade, instead of just going player for player.

Fred Smoot, although a decent cover corner, is a terrible tackler, and was not worth what he was asking for.

Stephen Davis was a key piece of the puzzle in the Panthers run in 2003, but Jake Delhomme, Steve Smith, and that defense played a Bigger role in their success that year. Davis did miss a few games that year as well, and the other RBs they had filled in just fine.

What Snyder has realized, with the help of Greg Williams, is that if you get average to above average players who have a passion for the game, and who initially sign very reasonable contracts, great coaching can make those players much better, and you can do well in this league since these players have a desire to win, and don't have the egos from all the money they are getting.

When we had all those big names, as soon as we reached 5-6, or 3-4, those players lost hope, and started criticizing the coaching staff and looking to next year. Not this team, and not with these players.

The only one person I wish we had kept was Antonio Pierce; I don't feel we handled that situation well by letting him go to a division rivial, but I was glad we didn't give Smoot and Bailey all the dollars they were asking for. I am tired of seeing Bailey pull up with a hamstring or some sort of injury everytime a receiver blows by him.

Hogster 12-29-2005 11:21 AM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
YOU GUYS HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME! 1st and foremost the guy has really been the face of the franchise for years b4 the clinton's, taylor's, washington's,etc, I really believe that he deserves the benefit of the doubt not only because he speaks from his heart but the fact that it could be very frustrating for someone outside the organization (agents) help destroy his relationship w/ his boss. I truly believe that w/ clemons out we will truly see how much the owner and coaching staff think of him. To me he is one of the top two players on our team, i also believe for once the redskins and gibbs need to do the right thing! WHICH IS KEEP LAVAR AROUND! The dude is a stand up guy who is very humble, i think that i would be really disappointed if we didnt find a way to keep him around.

MTK 12-29-2005 11:24 AM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
I just don't understand why people keep sticking up for him with his constant whining in the media.

I can understand his frustrations, but the guy needs to learn when to shut the hell up. The week of a huge game is not the time to be discussing your future with the team.

There will be plenty of time after the season for this. Now is not the time.

skins052bgr8 12-29-2005 11:31 AM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
[QUOTE=Hogster]YOU GUYS HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME! 1st and foremost the guy has really been the face of the franchise for years b4 the clinton's, taylor's, washington's,etc, I really believe that he deserves the benefit of the doubt not only because he speaks from his heart but the fact that it could be very frustrating for someone outside the organization (agents) help destroy his relationship w/ his boss. I truly believe that w/ clemons out we will truly see how much the owner and coaching staff think of him. To me he is one of the top two players on our team, i also believe for once the redskins and gibbs need to do the right thing! WHICH IS KEEP LAVAR AROUND! The dude is a stand up guy who is very humble, i think that i would be really disappointed if we didnt find a way to keep him around.[/QUOTE]

I would agree that he has been the face of the Redskins, but the face is no longer an individual it is a team with many good stories to be told. What frustrates me is his arguements are about me, me, me and completely speculitive even according to his account, he does not know what his status is and that could be said for any player in today's free agency, don't cry over a business or career that you chose and has done nothing but pay you well in a 20 mil dollar mansion. I love Lavar, but he is wrong in speculating his future in the middle of a playoff run where he is contributing and playing alot. Maybe we can get Dan Snyder and the whole team to sit down give him a smack on the ass and say we appreciate you man and they all tell their favorite Lavar story to make him feel wanted.

gibbs4life 12-29-2005 11:55 AM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
i,m like joe gibbs on redskins.com tv -this is the first i heard of it and i have no comment on the matter all we are focusing on and should be focusing on is philadelphia.focus,focus,focus- i wouldn,t even give the media the time and day for what it,s worth. especially the naysayers of the media.
and that goes for this entire city focus on this game only.i know i,m ready and focused for sunday.


this sunday is big for us since the 99 season.

railcon56 12-29-2005 12:01 PM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
[QUOTE=BrudLee]You all may be underestimating Dan Snyder's opinion of LaVar.

LaVar was a pallbearer in his father's funeral a few years ago. Whether this was done out of some sense of obligation or not, I am of the opinion that it makes Snyder view LaVar as something more than an employee.[/QUOTE]
Thats why this is all a bunch of bullshit... they are professional shit stirrers thats what the media does and they will use anyone... thats why they released this when they did.. i dont think snyder is worried about the money in anyway or the relationship is poisoned in anyway... they are too close ....snyder is a biz man and thats what he does negotiate...it was biz but snyder loves lavar...but people see aomething on tv and are so quick to judge others.... ie.... keep ur mouth shut.... hell are we in the USA or CHILE?? Its easy to sit in front of your tv where ur life will be the same win or lose and tell someone else how to act or feel.. wonder what you would be saying if it were you and a mic stuck in ur face everytime u move... i would love to see some of these people recorded and spliced and see what comes out of it.... so if u dont talk to the media your damned and if you do your damned ...it's the american way ... judge look down and try to have an opinion on someone elses life...after all he's a pubic figure and i'm watching him so he isn't human ...just shut up even though his whole life could change.....

mheisig 12-29-2005 12:03 PM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I just don't understand why people keep sticking up for him with his constant whining in the media.

I can understand his frustrations, but the guy needs to learn when to shut the hell up. The week of a huge game is not the time to be discussing your future with the team.

There will be plenty of time after the season for this. Now is not the time.[/QUOTE]

I can understand and sympathize with both sides of this argument, but I'm still pretty torn.

I've actually had the opportunity to meet Lavar in person in his home and he came across as one of the most humble, down to earth, all around nice guys you'll ever meet. Now I know you can't base a football player's worth on how "nice" he is or on my 15 minute encounter with him, but I am inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.

I think Lavar was the superstar around here for years, and got used to it. Not through sheer arrogance or pride, but simply because he WAS the best we had and we treated him like it. After his injury he comes back and tries to readjust to a new system where GW does things differently. I think we can be somewhat empathetic and patient with someone who's being placed in an entirely new situation that he's not used to. I think Lavar handled the entire thing with a great deal of class and dignity and minimal "whining" and managed to fight his way back.

The interview with the Times does have bad timing. I'm inclined to blame shoddy Washington Times reporting as much as I am Lavar. Still, I'm not even sure I'd characterize his comments in the article as whining, lack of team spirit or whatever you want to call it. It sounded to me like a guy who has a pretty realistic perspective on his career and future and is just giving an honest answer.

Compared to any number of other NFL stars Lavar has been incredibly mature and a class act about the whole situation.

I think the whole Times article has been blown WAY out of proportion, and we fans are to blame. So he didn't pick the optimal time for an interview - it's not like a 2 page article with relatively benign comments by the player is just going to totally derail this team, demolish their focus and drive and send us spiralling out of the playoffs. I'd certainly hope they're a little more focused than to be so disrupted by something so minor.

Let's not make this in to more than it is.

railcon56 12-29-2005 12:04 PM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
[QUOTE=JDESKIN]We all know how the media loves to try to stir up shit here in Washington. Hell MEDIA does nothing but do what the $%^& they want to do. I bet the ass who did that original miss informed piece is nothing more than a COWgirl/Gwoman fan. THE sadest shit of all is how many people believe that SHIT they right....[/QUOTE]
THAT IS SO RIGHT ON!!!!!!!! PERFECT!!! the love it and are smoking cigars right now celebrating the ratings...feeding off of the timing ...

mheisig 12-29-2005 12:06 PM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
[QUOTE=railcon56@comcast.net]he's a pubic figure[/QUOTE]

:lol:

Best typo ever.

railcon56 12-29-2005 12:07 PM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
[QUOTE=mheisig]I can understand and sympathize with both sides of this argument, but I'm still pretty torn.

I've actually had the opportunity to meet Lavar in person in his home and he came across as one of the most humble, down to earth, all around nice guys you'll ever meet. Now I know you can't base a football player's worth on how "nice" he is or on my 15 minute encounter with him, but I am inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.

I think Lavar was the superstar around here for years, and got used to it. Not through sheer arrogance or pride, but simply because he WAS the best we had and we treated him like it. After his injury he comes back and tries to readjust to a new system where GW does things differently. I think we can be somewhat empathetic and patient with someone who's being placed in an entirely new situation that he's not used to. I think Lavar handled the entire thing with a great deal of class and dignity and minimal "whining" and managed to fight his way back.

The interview with the Times does have bad timing. I'm inclined to blame shoddy Washington Times reporting as much as I am Lavar. Still, I'm not even sure I'd characterize his comments in the article as whining, lack of team spirit or whatever you want to call it. It sounded to me like a guy who has a pretty realistic perspective on his career and future and is just giving an honest answer.

Compared to any number of other NFL stars Lavar has been incredibly mature and a class act about the whole situation.

I think the whole Times article has been blown WAY out of proportion, and we fans are to blame. So he didn't pick the optimal time for an interview - it's not like a 2 page article with relatively benign comments by the player is just going to totally derail this team, demolish their focus and drive and send us spiralling out of the playoffs. I'd certainly hope they're a little more focused than to be so disrupted by something so minor.

Let's not make this in to more than it is.[/QUOTE]
wells said here....if this derails the team they arent professionals or even humans... its us fans talking i am more than sure the players and staff couldn't give a f_ck...and thats what they do blow things so far out of proportion.... everyone wants that big story..and rating ..and sadly some people follow it like a bad drug

skins052bgr8 12-29-2005 12:08 PM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
[QUOTE=gibbs4life]i,m like joe gibbs on redskins.com tv -this is the first i heard of it and i have no comment on the matter all we are focusing on and should be focusing on is philadelphia.focus,focus,focus- i wouldn,t even give the media the time and day for what it,s worth. especially the naysayers of the media.
and that goes for this entire city focus on this game only.i know i,m ready and focused for sunday.


this sunday is big for us since the 99 season.[/QUOTE]


Stay focused I hope you play well and you staying focused helps us win the game. Just a joke!!! I am confused why we as fans can't talk about the playoffs, the superbowl, etc.... I love the skins and bring my fan "A" game every weekend whether it is at the stadium or at home. The same will hold true this week as I watch and cheer from my home. I am flattered that some are worried about another fan getting ahead of themselves only to be hurt if we don't make the playoffs or talk of a playoff game causes us to loose. This forum I don't think has any outcome on this game though the force is strong my son! Skins will come to play and as much as we look ahead or talk about Lavar it is not handled the same in the Skins locker room I am sure. Go skins, beat the hell out of the Eagles and get us a playoff berth!

EternalEnigma21 12-29-2005 12:09 PM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
[QUOTE=mheisig]:lol:

Best typo ever.[/QUOTE]



:laughing2:laughing2:laughing2

railcon56 12-29-2005 12:10 PM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
[QUOTE=mheisig]:lol:

Best typo ever.[/QUOTE]
lol

mheisig 12-29-2005 12:12 PM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
[QUOTE=skins052bgr8]Stay focused I hope you play well and you staying focused helps us win the game. Just a joke!!! I am confused why we as fans can't talk about the playoffs, the superbowl, etc.... I love the skins and bring my fan "A" game every weekend whether it is at the stadium or at home. The same will hold true this week as I watch and cheer from my home. I am flattered that some are worried about another fan getting ahead of themselves only to be hurt if we don't make the playoffs or talk of a playoff game causes us to loose. This forum I don't think has any outcome on this game though the force is strong my son! Skins will come to play and as much as we look ahead or talk about Lavar it is not handled the same in the Skins locker room I am sure. Go skins, beat the hell out of the Eagles and get us a playoff berth![/QUOTE]

Exactly.

The entire defense getting jailed for posession of coke = distraction.

Polar ice caps melting and flooding the entire DC area = distraction.

Lots and lots and lots of strippers = distraction.

Lots and lots and lots of cheerleaders who dance like strippers = distraction.

Lavar making a few innocuous comments in a third-rate newsrag = barely a blip on the radar.

Let's keep some perspective and just move along.

railcon56 12-29-2005 12:13 PM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
[QUOTE=mheisig]:lol:

Best typo ever.[/QUOTE]
i had edited it to public but maybe pubic is better i am changing it back lol

railcon56 12-29-2005 12:15 PM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
[QUOTE=mheisig]Exactly.

The entire defense getting jailed for posession of coke = distraction.

Polar ice caps melting and flooding the entire DC area = distraction.

Lots and lots and lots of strippers = distraction.

Lots and lots and lots of cheerleaders who dance like strippers = distraction.

Lavar making a few innocuous comments in a third-rate newsrag = barely a blip on the radar.

Let's keep some perspective and just move along.[/QUOTE]
Tony Dungy's Son's Death Distraction....you have the right idea distraction ..what a joke ...the only distraction is with us the fans

Sammy Baugh Fan 12-29-2005 12:16 PM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
64 posts and over 812 views to this thread is a distraction.

MTK 12-29-2005 12:20 PM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
I don't think LaVar's comments will distract the team come Sunday, hell it's probably not even distracting them now.

But you can bet this doesn't sit well with Gibbs and the rest of the staff. For a coach who is intent on keeping everything in-house, you just know that Gibbs cringed when the WT article came out.

The timing was bad, and there was simply no need for this kind of discussion to be occuring at this time of the season, bottom line, and I think we can all agree on that.

#56fanatic 12-29-2005 12:20 PM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
This LaVar thing is rediculous. Everyone wants to throw him out, fine! But when the guy comes in and plays a great game, I dont want to hear a word from you. You are a persons best friend after a great game and all over his ass when something goes wrong. Somebody asked him a question, he answered it. He says he wants to be here, its up to the team if he stays. What is distracting about that. Its been going on the whole damn season with LaVar. Everything he says or does is dragged out through the media, whats new! Who cares if he is here or not. We haven't won anything with him. However, people need to lay off the guy. He loves this team, city, and the fans. He is one of the loyal guys that you just dont see anymore. He has renegotiated his contract a couple of times for the benefit of this organization and team, as well as tried to drop the grievence over 6 million. Which the players union would not let be dropped. Not too many people would let 6 million dollars be dropped. We need to worry about the game coming up. Also, when was the interview done. Sometimes these interviews are done weeks, if not months before they are released.

FRPLG 12-29-2005 12:21 PM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
I think this actually becomes more of a distraction when Gibbs even responds to it. Not that he did in any official way but clearly he didn't keep it a secret that he wasn't happy and that got out. It just keeps the story going rather than letting it die without fanfare. I don't know how much these tiny distractions actually distract but I think I speak for all of us in saying that we don't need anything to be a distraction at all right now. I would agree that this shouldn't be a big deal but god knows we'll be pissed if we find out half the players are mad at him and won't work effectively with him or something like that because of it. That's why these things need to be avoided. Not because they definitely cause distraction but because there's no good point to introducing anything that could even potentially be an issue. No matter how small that potential is.

MTK 12-29-2005 12:26 PM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
[QUOTE=#56fanatic]This LaVar thing is rediculous. Everyone wants to throw him out, fine! But when the guy comes in and plays a great game, I dont want to hear a word from you. You are a persons best friend after a great game and all over his ass when something goes wrong. Somebody asked him a question, he answered it. He says he wants to be here, its up to the team if he stays. What is distracting about that. Its been going on the whole damn season with LaVar. Everything he says or does is dragged out through the media, whats new! Who cares if he is here or not. We haven't won anything with him. However, people need to lay off the guy. He loves this team, city, and the fans. He is one of the loyal guys that you just dont see anymore. He has renegotiated his contract a couple of times for the benefit of this organization and team, as well as tried to drop the grievence over 6 million. Which the players union would not let be dropped. Not too many people would let 6 million dollars be dropped. We need to worry about the game coming up. Also, when was the interview done. Sometimes these interviews are done weeks, if not months before they are released.[/QUOTE]

It's obvious LaVar can do no wrong in your eyes. That's fine and to be expected from someone with #56 in your name.

What he does on the field and off are two seperate things. I love him as a player on the field, but some of his off the field comments annoy me. I just wish he would shut the hell up and play. He's an outspoken guy and that's ok, but there's a time and a place, and this week was not the time nor the place to be contemplating his future with the Redskins in the media.

Is it a huge deal? I really don't think so in the grand scheme of things. But all those little things add up, and if LaVar isn't here next year I think he has to take some of the blame. He's not an innocent victim here, despite the fact he always tries to play that role.

railcon56 12-29-2005 12:33 PM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72]It's obvious LaVar can do no wrong in your eyes. That's fine and to be expected from someone with #56 in your name.

What he does on the field and off are two seperate things. I love him as a player on the field, but some of his off the field comments annoy me. I just wish he would shut the hell up and play. He's an outspoken guy and that's ok, but there's a time and a place, and this week was not the time nor the place to be contemplating his future with the Redskins in the media.

Is it a huge deal? I really don't think so in the grand scheme of things. But all those little things add up, and if LaVar isn't here next year I think he has to take some of the blame. He's not an innocent victim here, despite the fact he always tries to play that role.[/QUOTE]
It's all just speculation...we dont have the 1st clue whats really going on so why judge?

#56fanatic 12-29-2005 12:35 PM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72]It's obvious LaVar can do no wrong in your eyes. That's fine and to be expected from someone with #56 in your name.

What he does on the field and off are two seperate things. I love him as a player on the field, but some of his off the field comments annoy me. I just wish he would shut the hell up and play. He's an outspoken guy and that's ok, but there's a time and a place, and this week was not the time nor the place to be contemplating his future with the Redskins in the media.

Is it a huge deal? I really don't think so in the grand scheme of things. But all those little things add up, and if LaVar isn't here next year I think he has to take some of the blame. He's not an innocent victim here, despite the fact he always tries to play that role.[/QUOTE]


Dude, you just love to jump all over my ass. What part of my quote did you not understand. "I could care less if he is here or not, we haven't won anything with him" or did you skip over that part. I just said I like the guy, what the hell is wrong with that? You need to stop jumping on my ass everytime I say something. its getting old!! I can't like somebody, I like portis, I think hes a great person in the locker room, is there something wrong with that. Are his comments and costumes a distraction too!

Hey, everyone keep you feeling to yourself. I am sure this guy will misconstrue what you say and just down your throat and be a smart ass as usual.

BigSKINBauer 12-29-2005 12:42 PM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
there are simultaneous conflicts happening at once. This is officially a distraction!

STOP THE VIOLENCE
:soapbox:

railcon56 12-29-2005 12:43 PM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
[QUOTE=BigSKINBauer]there are simultaneous conflicts happening at once. This is officially a distraction!

STOP THE VIOLENCE
:soapbox:[/QUOTE]


hahahahaha love it

railcon56 12-29-2005 12:44 PM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
[QUOTE=BigSKINBauer]there are simultaneous conflicts happening at once. This is officially a distraction!

STOP THE VIOLENCE
:soapbox:[/QUOTE]



Must be a big game coming huh????? lol

12thMan 12-29-2005 12:53 PM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
guys chill.

BigSKINBauer 12-29-2005 12:54 PM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
[QUOTE=railcon56@comcast.net]Must be a big game coming huh????? lol[/QUOTE]yeeeeup lol.
12thman i'm freezing, its the way to go isn't it.

#56fanatic 12-29-2005 12:57 PM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
[QUOTE=12thMan]guys chill.[/QUOTE]

I would chill if somepeople would attack me everytime I put something out here, namely Mattyk or whatever his name is. he must be looking for my posts, I guess I should take that as a compliment. I hate when ever I say something good or something I like about somebody, Mr. adm comes out and jumps my ass. We have had several discussions and all he does is disagree w/ everything I say. No matter what it is. I could say the Redskins wear Burgandy and Gold, and there would probably be something wrong with that.

EternalEnigma21 12-29-2005 01:01 PM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
[QUOTE=#56fanatic]I would chill if somepeople would attack me everytime I put something out here, namely Mattyk or whatever his name is. he must be looking for my posts, I guess I should take that as a compliment. I hate when ever I say something good or something I like about somebody, Mr. adm comes out and jumps my ass. We have had several discussions and all he does is disagree w/ everything I say. No matter what it is. I could say the Redskins wear Burgandy and Gold, and there would probably be something wrong with that.[/QUOTE]


Thats because they wear white... j/k

crlesh 12-29-2005 01:04 PM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
Ahhh... a cool head speaks... shhh... we should listen:

[QUOTE=mheisig]I can understand and sympathize with both sides of this argument, but I'm still pretty torn.

I've actually had the opportunity to meet Lavar in person in his home and he came across as one of the most humble, down to earth, all around nice guys you'll ever meet. Now I know you can't base a football player's worth on how "nice" he is or on my 15 minute encounter with him, but I am inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.

I think Lavar was the superstar around here for years, and got used to it. Not through sheer arrogance or pride, but simply because he WAS the best we had and we treated him like it. After his injury he comes back and tries to readjust to a new system where GW does things differently. I think we can be somewhat empathetic and patient with someone who's being placed in an entirely new situation that he's not used to. I think Lavar handled the entire thing with a great deal of class and dignity and minimal "whining" and managed to fight his way back.

The interview with the Times does have bad timing. I'm inclined to blame shoddy Washington Times reporting as much as I am Lavar. Still, I'm not even sure I'd characterize his comments in the article as whining, lack of team spirit or whatever you want to call it. It sounded to me like a guy who has a pretty realistic perspective on his career and future and is just giving an honest answer.

Compared to any number of other NFL stars Lavar has been incredibly mature and a class act about the whole situation.

I think the whole Times article has been blown WAY out of proportion, and we fans are to blame. So he didn't pick the optimal time for an interview - it's not like a 2 page article with relatively benign comments by the player is just going to totally derail this team, demolish their focus and drive and send us spiralling out of the playoffs. I'd certainly hope they're a little more focused than to be so disrupted by something so minor.

Let's not make this in to more than it is.[/QUOTE]

12thMan 12-29-2005 01:04 PM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
[QUOTE=#56fanatic]I would chill if somepeople would attack me everytime I put something out here, namely Mattyk or whatever his name is. he must be looking for my posts, I guess I should take that as a compliment. I hate when ever I say something good or something I like about somebody, Mr. adm comes out and jumps my ass. We have had several discussions and all he does is disagree w/ everything I say. No matter what it is. I could say the Redskins wear Burgandy and Gold, and there would probably be something wrong with that.[/QUOTE]

I don't know either of you personally, but I know you through your posts. And I can say, (I'm not blowing smoke up your skirts either:) you both seem like good dudes. Really.

I don't think Matty is aiming anything personal toward you. I'm sure if you guys met, you'd be laughing at this shit over a beer.

BigSKINBauer 12-29-2005 01:06 PM

Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career
 
[QUOTE=canthetuna]Thats because they wear white... j/k[/QUOTE]

dude i was thinking the exact same thing. lol

Now look we are on the brink of one of the greatest weekends for us skin fans. Saturday the raiders will win ad sunday we will attempt to take us back to glory. C'mon people! Nothing can get me down this week. lavar almost did it but i won't let it happen. Ever since we beat dallas i have had this Pep in my step. I am to happy to be upset, chilling like a villian.


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