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Coff 09-18-2011 10:37 PM

Re: Graham Gano has to Go !!
 
The question isn't how many kicks Gano made or missed, the question is whether or not there is a better free agent kicker. If there is, then the Skins are remiss in not signing him; if there isn't, the Skins shouldn't cut Gano. Regardless, there seems to be this prevailing attitude that there are a plethora of un-signed kickers who never miss a FG below 45 yards sitting around waiting for the phone to ring.

It's easy to say "Gano has to go" every time he misses a FG (which unfortunately factors into the annoying belief of idiots that arguments that rhyme are logically superior to arguments that don't); it's much harder to recommend an actual available kicker. I'd love for the Skins to cut Gano and replace him a kicker who never misses a FG, I just don't know who that guy is, and until I find out I'm not going to recommend we cut a guy who just kicked a game winning field goal.

Mechanix544 09-18-2011 10:53 PM

Re: Graham Gano has to Go !!
 
mark my words, he will be directly responsible for at least 2 losses this year, and some of these tunes will change. We barely lucked out today, so everyone is chill about it. Ok, cool beans,but just wait until we lose one on behalf of his "booming leg". I hope it doesnt happen, but i just dont like playing russian roulette when it comes to routine length field goals all the damn time. tis a shitty feeling when u cant count on easy points a team is supposed to have. today, it didnt change the end result. It did change the dynamics of the game, but until he is DIRECTLY responsible when there is no time left for the other players to make plays and bail his ass out, i dont think there will be such an outcry in redskins land to oust him. like i said, i hope it never comes to that, guess i am just pessimistic. We've waited so long to put a good squad together with a new GM, coach, coordinators, defensive scheme, quarterback, young players, kick returner, etc.........and a shitty kicker almost got in the way both weeks from us getting a L instead of a win. Its an additional something, on top of the opposing squad, that this team shouldnt have to overcome.


*crosses my fingers*

Lotus 09-18-2011 10:55 PM

Re: Graham Gano has to Go !!
 
[quote=Mechanix544;837642]mark my words, he will be directly responsible for at least 2 losses this year, and some of these tunes will change. We barely lucked out today, so everyone is chill about it. Ok, cool beans,but just wait until we lose one on behalf of his "booming leg". I hope it doesnt happen, but i just dont like playing russian roulette when it comes to routine length field goals all the damn time. tis a shitty feeling when u cant count on easy points a team is supposed to have. today, it didnt change the end result. It did change the dynamics of the game, but until he is DIRECTLY responsible when there is no time left for the other players to make plays and bail his ass out, i dont think there will be such an outcry in redskins land to oust him. like i said, i hope it never comes to that, guess i am just pessimistic. We've waited so long to put a good squad together with a new GM, coach, coordinators, defensive scheme, quarterback, young players, kick returner, etc.........and a shitty kicker almost got in the way both weeks from us getting a L instead of a win. Its an additional something, on top of the opposing squad, that this team shouldnt have to overcome.


*crosses my fingers*[/quote]

Fine. I understand. So whom should we get to kick instead?

NC_Skins 09-19-2011 12:06 AM

Re: Graham Gano has to Go !!
 
[quote=Mechanix544;837642]mark my words, he will be directly responsible for at least 2 losses this year, and some of these tunes will change. We barely lucked out today, so everyone is chill about it. Ok, cool beans,but just wait until we lose one on behalf of his "booming leg". I hope it doesnt happen, but i just dont like playing russian roulette when it comes to routine length field goals all the damn time. tis a shitty feeling when u cant count on easy points a team is supposed to have. today, it didnt change the end result. It did change the dynamics of the game, but until he is DIRECTLY responsible when there is no time left for the other players to make plays and bail his ass out, i dont think there will be such an outcry in redskins land to oust him. like i said, i hope it never comes to that, guess i am just pessimistic. We've waited so long to put a good squad together with a new GM, coach, coordinators, defensive scheme, quarterback, young players, kick returner, etc.........and a shitty kicker almost got in the way both weeks from us getting a L instead of a win. Its an additional something, on top of the opposing squad, that this team shouldnt have to overcome.


*crosses my fingers*[/quote]

So if he doesn't cost us any games this year, will you agree to never post again?

Some of you guys are amazing. I think your major beef should be with Danny Smith (coach of STs). All the penalties on kick coverages, block field goal, and missed FGs last year as well. His special teams has been anything BUT special during his tenure here. So far, Gano has missed one field goal last week and made 3 this week. (one being game winner) Give the guy at least till the mid season before you start calling for the "CUT GANO" crap.

NC_Skins 09-19-2011 12:07 AM

Re: Graham Gano has to Go !!
 
[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;837624]Agree completely, NC. Just left NC to head back down to SC btw. Was in the Concord area, daughter's 1st BDAY![/quote]

Congrats!! Been to Concord a many of times during my trips to the Queen city.

Ruhskins 09-19-2011 12:15 AM

Re: Graham Gano has to Go !!
 
[quote=NC_Skins;837659]So if he doesn't cost us any games this year, will you agree to never post again?

Some of you guys are amazing. I think your major beef should be with Danny Smith (coach of STs). All the penalties on kick coverages, block field goal, and missed FGs last year as well. His special teams has been anything BUT special during his tenure here. So far, Gano has missed one field goal last week and made 3 this week. (one being game winner) Give the guy at least till the mid season before you start calling for the "CUT GANO" crap.[/quote]

Agreed. People are SOO absent minded sometimes. The rationale doesn't make sense. You blame the kicker for a blocked FG blindly, and disregard the fact that a 6 ft. 8 in. defensive end went through the line unblocked. Calais Campbell's height was a huge problem for the Skins with a blocked FG and a number of batted down passes.

I'm not here to defend Gano, we all know his issues. I'm just sick of people who blindly react to something without taking a step back and seeing the whole picture. Calm the f*ck down people and look at the whole picture before you start a whining rant. Sheesh, you'd think we were 0-2 with all the complaints about Gano, Doughty, and everyone else.

NC_Skins 09-19-2011 12:23 AM

Re: Graham Gano has to Go !!
 
[quote=Ruhskins;837664]I'm not here to defend Gano, we all know his issues. I'm just sick of people who blindly react to something without taking a step back and seeing the whole picture. Calm the f*ck down people and look at the whole picture before you start a whining rant. Sheesh, you'd think we were 0-2 with all the complaints about Gano, Doughty, and everyone else.[/quote]

Probably the same fans that wanted David Akers ran out of town when he was here. Worked out well didn't it?


Also, I"m not claiming that Gano is going to be some sort of all-pro kicker in the near future, and he very well may not live up to expectations. However, lets not blame him for something that's not his fault. That said, I blame D. Hall on that Rex Grossman interception. Yeah, I know he wasn't even on the field at the time, but since we are blaming people not responsible for things, I figured I'd make a go at it.

Ruhskins 09-19-2011 12:28 AM

Re: Graham Gano has to Go !!
 
[quote=NC_Skins;837669]Probably the same fans that wanted David Akers ran out of town when he was here. Worked out well didn't it?


Also, I"m not claiming that Gano is going to be some sort of all-pro kicker in the near future, and he very well may not live up to expectations. However, lets not blame him for something that's not his fault. [B]That said, I blame D. Hall on that Rex Grossman interception.[/B] Yeah, I know he wasn't even on the field at the time, but since we are blaming people not responsible for things, I figured I'd make a go at it.[/quote]

I thought about blaming Snyder first...but had to go with Doughty. Since he's the reason why the Redskins are losing...oh wait, they are not losing? You'd think they are with all the complaining.

Dirtbag59 09-19-2011 12:42 AM

Re: Graham Gano has to Go !!
 
People don't seem to realize that Gano is being developed and his detractors seem to forget that he's kicked a handful of overtime game winners. The way I see it, Gano has distance, and is surprisingly cool in the clutch. Is he the best kicker in the league? No, but he's the best kicker we've had over the past decade easily.

hooskins 09-19-2011 05:58 AM

[QUOTE=Dirtbag59;837682]People don't seem to realize that Gano is being developed and his detractors seem to forget that he's kicked a handful of overtime game winners. The way I see it, Gano has distance, and is surprisingly cool in the clutch. Is he the best kicker in the league? No, but he's the best kicker we've had over the past decade easily.[/QUOTE]

3 OT winners last year.

Again all I see is subjective critiques which amounts to "I don't trust him, therefore he has to be cut" lol.

diehard 09-19-2011 07:04 AM

Re: Graham Gano has to Go !!
 
Gano misses kicks just like Grossman throws INTs and incompletions, and the WRs drop passes, and the OL miss blocks, and...

Stuck in TX 09-19-2011 10:03 AM

Re: Graham Gano has to Go !!
 
How come no one is calling for the ousting of whoever missed that block that caused the blocked field goal? Or how about Anthony Armstrong not pulling in that pass that led to an int? Seriously, why cant anyone just be happy? Bottom line is that Gano won the game for us. Gano was clutch and that kick was effortless.

MTK 09-19-2011 10:04 AM

Re: Graham Gano has to Go !!
 
Gano and Reed are the go-to scapegoats. Every error they make is under the microscope.

Slingin Sammy 33 09-19-2011 10:09 AM

Re: Graham Gano has to Go !!
 
[quote=rypper11;837523]Apparently Gano should have kicked it so hard that the pure force drove Cambell through the goal posts along with the ball.[/quote]:lol:

44ever 09-19-2011 10:11 AM

Re: Graham Gano has to Go !!
 
[quote=Mattyk;837791]Gano and Reed are the go-to scapegoats. Every error they make is under the microscope.[/quote]

Agree, we need to chill on Gano.


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