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[quote=Ruhskins;801120]Personally, I don't think the photos need to be release, nor any video on the operation. It would be ridiculous to release any video, given the secrecy behind the SEAL Team 6. I am fine with no information like that released.
If there was any doubt that bin Laden was alive, Al Qaeda would be quick to say something about it.[/quote] Releasing a couple still frames of a corpse with no homeland "could pose a national security risk" but executing a military operation inside of an unstable, nuclear armed country, without their prior approval is not??? These photos certainly pose less of a threat to national security than the initial decision of entering Pakistan and absconding with a sensitive target. What I know about politics can fit into a thimble, but when citing reasons for actions, make sure they are uniform. Release the photos. |
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Is there any benefit to releasing them?
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[quote=Mattyk;801219]Is there any benefit to releasing them?[/quote]
Personal gratification of seeing his sorry ass dead. |
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[quote=Mattyk;801219]Is there any benefit to releasing them?[/quote]
I'm no conspiracy theorist but I'd like to see something that corroborates the US's account of what transpired. All of us are getting their account of what happened from President Obama but even he has 2nd hand information. All the citizens have a 3rd hand account of what happened. I'd just like to see some 1st hand visual evidence of the result of that rather significant firefight that left Bin Laden dead. This was a 9.5 year hunt that used up billions in taxpayer money. The war on terror is not even close to over but the face of it is. These are extenuating circumstances which should toss formalities aside, like Obama did when he pulled the trigger on that military op. Release these photos. |
Obama and others around him have seen the pics. I don't see why the public needs to see them. I think we have enough info to know that he's dead. The wacko conspiracy theorists will believe what they want no matter what.
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[url=http://www.reuters.com/subjects/bin-laden-compound]Inside bin Laden's Compound[/url] Here we go...scroll to the pan out shot of a deceased guy with 02-MAY-11 2:39 in the corner. This is what I'm talking about, dead guy with computer USB and monitor cables to the left of his shoulder. Gore aside, this photo is what I'm looking for. The White House said that they took a number of computers and hard drives. This shows that they took just the computer housing and left all the ancillary cables that are not needed. Very cool, and very insightful, I feel like I'm there, our guys just yanked those cables out of the housing and confiscated the machine, all very 1st hand visual information, fully corroborated. The guy pictured is dead as fried chicken so that is also very visceral and really easy to comprehend. Now all I need is a picture of someone resembling Bin Laden in the same shape and I can finally have visual closure that I'm looking for. Throw in a few of his corpse being sunk in the sea and I never speak of it again. |
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[quote=Mattyk;801231]Obama and others around him have seen the pics. I don't see why the public needs to see them. I think we have enough info to know that he's dead. [B]The wacko conspiracy theorists will believe what they want no matter what[/B].[/quote]
It's funny that Obama cites the conspriacy theorists and says they won't believe him even if a picture is shown, they won't be convinced otherwise. The same can be said about the terrorists that are going to jihad just because they see the picture of a dead Osama. The terrorists who decide to take up jihad are just going to do so because Bin Laden is dead, they don't need a picture. |
[QUOTE=Skinny Tee;801236]It's funny that Obama cites the conspriacy theorists and says they won't believe him even if a picture is shown, they won't be convinced otherwise.
The same can be said about the terrorists that are going to jihad just because they see the picture of a dead Osama. The terrorists who decide to take up jihad are just going to do so because Bin Laden is dead, they don't need a picture.[/QUOTE] Pictures are worth a thousand words they say...it'd be easier to recruit more jihadists with a picture than words alone. Again I don't get the obsession with geting these pics out in public. Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G using Tapatalk |
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[URL="http://www.reuters.com/subjects/bin-laden-compound"]Inside bin Laden's Compound[/URL] Here we go...scroll to the pan out shot of a deceased guy with 02-MAY-11 2:39 in the corner. This is what I'm talking about, dead guy with computer USB and monitor cables to the left of his shoulder. Gore aside, this photo is what I'm looking for. The White House said that they took a number of computers and hard drives. This shows that they took just the computer housing and left all the ancillary cables that are not needed. Very cool, and very insightful, I feel like I'm there, our guys just yanked those cables out of the housing and confiscated the machine, all very 1st hand visual information, fully corroborated. The guy pictured is dead as fried chicken so that is also very visceral and really easy to comprehend. Now all I need is a picture of someone resembling Bin Laden in the same shape and I can finally have visual closure that I'm looking for. Throw in a few of his corpse being sunk in the sea and I never speak of it again.[/quote] was that a watergun in the second dead photo???? |
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[quote=Ruhskins;801245]Pictures are worth a thousand words they say...it'd be easier to recruit more jihadists with a picture than words alone. Again I don't get the obsession with geting these pics out in public.
Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G using Tapatalk[/quote] I don't get it either. By doing so you're playing their game and giving them exactly what they want. Why give them one additional ounce of motivation? |
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[quote=skinsfaninok;801252]was that a watergun in the second dead photo????[/quote]
probably belonged to one of the kids there |
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^ gotcha . I'm glad no kids were harmed or atleast I don't think they were
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[quote=Mattyk;801263]I don't get it either. By doing so you're playing their game and giving them exactly what they want. Why give them one additional ounce of motivation?[/quote]
Agreed. While I'd personally love to see the photo of that son of a bitch with a hole in his head, it doesn't really do much good to show the world the photo. For me, I'd want to see it for a visceral gratification, but I'd say 95% of the world has enough imagination to picture in their minds exactly what we could show them. No need to "spike the football" as Obama said. We scored the touchdown. It's obvious. It's almost like, yeah, we killed Bin Laden, but why brag about it? 9/11 doesn't happen without him. At the very least we should put a bullet in his head. He's lucky he didn't get quartered and taken to the four corners of our country and put on sticks. So to parade his corpse on the net/news is grandstanding to a degree about something that frankly should have happened sooner than 10 years after the fact. |
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I was just discussing with a buddy can you imagine the shit storm had we taken him alive? It would have dragged on for a couple of years.
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like i previously said every new story i read makes this mission more and more bad ass, now it sounds lke we were using top secret helicopters, thats why they tried to destroy it.
[url=http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/8245338/secret-stealth-chopper-used-in-bin-laden-attack]'Secret stealth chopper' used in bin Laden attack[/url] this is the link with the pictures that skinnytee put up, the first four are the chopper, after that it gets graphic [url=http://www.reuters.com/subjects/bin-laden-compound]Inside bin Laden's Compound[/url] |
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