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skinsguy 12-22-2011 02:18 PM

Re: 2012 Draft-QB Prospects (Part III)
 
[quote=T.O.Killa;869616]Thanks, that is eastern time or pacific?[/quote]

Eastern Time.

Dirtbag59 12-22-2011 02:19 PM

Re: 2012 Draft-QB Prospects (Part III)
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;869594]Well he's having the presser in the same place that Sanchez and Bush said they would go pro[/QUOTE]

And the same place Leinart said he was staying.

[QUOTE]Those looking for a clue to Barkey's decision, based on the location of the announcement, will be hard-pressed to find one. Heritage Hall is where Matt Leinart announced he would return for a fifth year after he had already won back-to-back AP national championships and a Heisman Trophy, and it is also the same building Mark Sanchez announced he would leave school early after only starting 16 games at quarterback for USC.[/QUOTE]

T.O.Killa 12-22-2011 02:20 PM

Re: 2012 Draft-QB Prospects (Part III)
 
[quote=Dirtbag59;869620]And the same place Leinart said he was staying.[/quote]
Well at least it is not indicative of a player staying.

skinsfaninok 12-22-2011 02:52 PM

If the Vikings get the first pick and draft Luck I wonder what they would give us ponder for? I'm not his biggest fan but he's better than what we've got now and have had

Ruhskins 12-22-2011 03:14 PM

Re: 2012 Draft-QB Prospects (Part III)
 
The word on Twitter...

"Rick Maese
RT @PeteThamelNYT Barkley has told teammates he’s returning. Look for good news for USC fans at 4."

T.O.Killa 12-22-2011 03:19 PM

Re: 2012 Draft-QB Prospects (Part III)
 
[quote=Ruhskins;869624]The word on Twitter...

"Rick Maese
RT @PeteThamelNYT Barkley has told teammates he’s returning. Look for good news for USC fans at 4."[/quote]
If thats true, this sucks.

skinsfaninok 12-22-2011 03:21 PM

The redskins can never get lucky I swear! F it do what u have to do an get the number 1 or 2 pick in April we need Luck or RGIII

Chico23231 12-22-2011 03:29 PM

Re: 2012 Draft-QB Prospects (Part III)
 
[quote=Ruhskins;869624]The word on Twitter...

"Rick Maese
RT @PeteThamelNYT Barkley has told teammates he’s returning. Look for good news for USC fans at 4."[/quote]

f*ck'm

12thMan 12-22-2011 03:33 PM

Re: 2012 Draft-QB Prospects (Part III)
 
Yep, just heard the same. Barkley's not coming out.

SmootSmack 12-22-2011 03:36 PM

Re: 2012 Draft-QB Prospects (Part III)
 
Well I don't think he was high on our radar to begin with, but it will impact the top of the draft for sure

skinsfaninok 12-22-2011 03:39 PM

Smoot just curious what would u give up for luck? If we had the chance with STL at number 1

GTripp0012 12-22-2011 03:42 PM

Re: 2012 Draft-QB Prospects (Part III)
 
I think that's a good decision by Matt Barkley, a bad outcome for the Redskins, but a good outcome for the chances of the Redskins getting Matt Barkley (obviously next year) if that makes any sense.

I still think RGIII opts to come out, but I think that if Griffin stays, Landry Jones probably swallows the bullet and comes out as a mid-to-late first round pick, because he'll be looking at an even tougher field next year.

Luck, Griffin, Foles, Jones, Cousins, Tannehill is still one of the best QB fields in memory, but its much more of a developmental class (like last year) w/o Barkley.

Ruhskins 12-22-2011 03:42 PM

Re: 2012 Draft-QB Prospects (Part III)
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;869628]The redskins can never get lucky I swear! F it do what u have to do an get the number 1 or 2 pick in April we need Luck or RGIII[/quote]

Only if they are on top of MS' draft board, then I am with you. Honestly, while we need help in other areas, we are in much better shape to bet the farm on a franchise QB coming out in the draft than in previous years.

SkinzWin 12-22-2011 03:46 PM

Re: 2012 Draft-QB Prospects (Part III)
 
[quote=skinsguy;869592]Hypothetically speaking, let's say Barkley, Griffin III, and Jones all decides to stay. I realize you still have other QBs like Tannehill and Weeden, but do you draft a QB this season just to be drafting one? O[B]r, do you will and deal your draft picks this year in hopes of landing a high draft pick next year [/B]- where you could possibly be a shoe in for someone like Griffin or Barkley?[/quote]

I would love to wait to get someone next year like Barkley or RG3 since I think they are better players than anyone that would be below them in the draft this year that we could get. HOWEVER, you can't sit back another year and wait to get a QB next year. It would suppress the growth of the team significantly for another year and if we did well next year anyhow we would have a lower first round pick and half to give up A LOT to trade into the top 5 to draft one of those two.

Remember, by staying, Barkley could be in the same place Luck will be this year. #1, and that will cost a boat load to trade up for, so you really aren't helping yourself by playing the waiting game in that scenario.

Which sucks. We would have a much better shot at drafting either one this year, and give up a lot less too I would assume than by waiting and trading up next year. I can't believe he is going to stay after his two stud linemen said already they were going to declare.

SmootSmack 12-22-2011 03:47 PM

Re: 2012 Draft-QB Prospects (Part III)
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;869635]Smoot just curious what would u give up for luck? If we had the chance with STL at number 1[/quote]

What would we have? The 7th overall pick?

If the Rams had the top pick I actually wouldn't be totally surprised if they just took Kalil even though consensus is you've got to take Luck if you have the top pick in the draft. Still, the Rams have been very disappointed in Jason Smith

But if they did get the #1 pick, I'd actually be inclined to see what it would take to get Bradford. Because it would be less than it would take to get Luck I'd think


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