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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1141297]You KNEW he had a mini-chub just waiting for when he could start making snarky comments. I'm like, dude, was it all you that caused the problems? No, but you WERE part of the problem. This is the stuff that makes it hard for me to root for him.[/quote]

This.

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For me reading these Griffin comments is an eye into how the modern media market can create perception.



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Oh, I agree the media had something to do with it. No one was innocent in this whole thing, but he sure as hell absolves himself the way he talks.

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It's pretty hard to make 10 million in one year, I dunno how he managed to make it through.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;1141302]Oh, I agree the media had something to do with it. No one was innocent in this whole thing, but he sure as hell absolves himself the way he talks.[/QUOTE]
Being open (too open for my taste) doesn't make him a bad guy. It does make him an easy mark for the media though. And local media made sport of Robert because of his popularity.

I don't think his comments absolve himself of blame. But if people want to find something to nit pick, it easy when a person doesn't give canned answers.

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[quote=30gut;1141301]For me reading these Griffin comments is an eye into how the modern media market can create perception.[/quote]

While I get the "media can create perception," there is truth in the old adage "where there is smoke, there's fire."

Sure, RGIII had things taken out of context. Sure, the media put RGIII sound bites out there for click bait.

At the same time, RGIII said so many "click" worthy things - contextual or not - it just got to the point where I would think to myself "Yes, its not the whole interview and probably meant differently than it came across - but this is the 18th time this week he has done that. At some point, I gotta believe the man knows what he is doing."

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[quote=30gut;1141305]Being open (too open for my taste) doesn't make him a bad guy. It does make him an easy mark for the media though. And local media made sport of Robert because of his popularity.

I don't think his comments absolve himself of blame. But if people want to find something to nit pick, it easy when a person doesn't give canned answers.

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He had two weeks to craft his message. He was a communications/marketing major. He knows how to brand himself. And in all his comments I could find, there was no trace of the acknowledgement of self limitations/failings. Simply self aggrandizement, and commitment to future (which when made without reflections are fairly useless). Now, his comments about the team and future might give Browns fans hope, except he made the same pronouncements here, but didn't follow up - because he doesn't seem to acknowledge where his weaknesses are. An example from his statement:
[quote]I’m excited about that, and when it comes to what I need to work on, I’m excited to have another opportunity to grow … that’s big, and I just need to go out and prove it.[/quote]
he gives himself a perfect in right here to make a self reflective statement: and when it comes to what I need to work on, [B]like my drop backs or like pocket presence[/B], I'm excited...

But he doesn't do that, he deflects any thought of his faults and makes it sound like he didn't have an opportunity to grow, this from a guy who was the named starter for the first 3 + years of his career.

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I'm actually thankful about the local media coverage of Griffin. It helped me to stop listening, stop following. I definitely noticed a link between media comments and fan slant/discussion on message boards. Too often I heard speculation and opinion passed off as fact and often time heard "reports" that were later refuted on the record by team officials yet the perception of the erroneous 'report' remain.

I was especially turned off by the coverage of Mike Shanahan and the revisionist history applied to his tenure. Another key aspect that turned me off is the insistence that Griffin changed the offense in 2013 and didn't do read option, a fact that they conveniently leave out of their narrative is the fact that Griffin did read option in 2013, in fact he did it a lot.

Anyhow...I slipped up and listened the other day and heard Thom Loverro? getting in his last licks, and having a laugh the whole time.

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:bdh:[quote=30gut;1141309]I'm actually thankful about the local media coverage of Griffin. It helped me to stop listening, stop following. I definitely noticed a link between media comments and fan slant/discussion on message boards. Too often I heard speculation and opinion passed off as fact and often time heard "reports" that were later refuted on the record by team officials yet the perception of the erroneous 'report' remain.

I was especially turned off by the coverage of Mike Shanahan and the revisionist history applied to his tenure. Another key aspect that turned me off is the insistence that Griffin changed the offense in 2013 and didn't do read option, a fact that they conveniently leave out of their narrative is the fact that Griffin did read option in 2013, in fact he did it a lot.

Anyhow...I slipped up and listened the other day and heard Thom Loverro? getting in his last licks, and having a laugh the whole time.[/quote]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1141308]He had two weeks to craft his message. He was a communications/marketing major. He knows how to brand himself. And in all his comments I could find, there was no trace of the acknowledgement of self limitations/failings. Simply self aggrandizement, and commitment to future (which when made without reflections are fairly useless). Now, his comments about the team and future might give Browns fans hope, except he made the same pronouncements here, but didn't follow up - because he doesn't seem to acknowledge where his weaknesses are. An example from his statement:

he gives himself a perfect in right here to make a self reflective statement: and when it comes to what I need to work on, [B]like my drop backs or like pocket presence[/B], I'm excited...

But he doesn't do that, he deflects any thought of his faults...[/quote]Seems to me like you're doing an awful lot of reading into his comments. He was giving an introductory presser. I'm not going to hold it against the kid that he wasn't self reflectively critical in an introductory press conference. He's not there to render a mea culpa.

I'm sure there is fodder there for those willing to parse through Brock Os's intro presser.

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[quote=30gut;1141312]:bdh:[/quote]

Maybe the only time you and I have agreed!:food-smil

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:smashfreak:[quote=30gut;1141312]:bdh:[/quote]

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I'm so glad RGIII is gone so we can finally stop talking about him.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1141318]I'm so glad RGIII is gone so we can finally stop talking about him.[/QUOTE]

Yes. Now we can focus on the real QB tragedy ... that Patrick Ramsey was given a bum rap.

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