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SFREDSKIN 09-20-2023 12:41 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1345964]SH is 12th in the NFL with YPA , way different than TH. He takes shots and usually connects[/quote]

Compare his stats with Josh Allen and they are almost identical, including spreading the ball to 10 different receivers.

jamf 09-20-2023 04:22 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
You guys desperately want to anoint him the next great QB.
Let the guy play some meaningful games.

Chief X_Phackter 09-20-2023 04:29 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
Still a lot of room for improvement, but he has been better than most expected so far - me included. I wasn't sure what to expect from him or the offense in general. At least he's not losing us games. I'm not ready to compare him to some of the better QBs in the NFL just yet, but he's trending that way so far.

SFREDSKIN 09-20-2023 06:18 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=jamf;1345976]You guys desperately want to anoint him the next great QB.
Let the guy play some meaningful games.[/quote]

I’ve seen enough of his traits and demeanor to know he is the one. Watch his college tapes, he’s still the same.

jamf 09-20-2023 06:33 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1345978]I’ve seen enough of his traits and demeanor to know he is the one. Watch his college tapes, he’s still the same.[/quote]

I hope you're right but he appears to have that Carson Wentz holding on to the ball trait.

SFREDSKIN 09-20-2023 06:55 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=jamf;1345979]I hope you're right but he appears to have that Carson Wentz holding on to the ball trait.[/quote]

Bad comparison, concrete feet Carson didn’t know what to do, Sam will take off and make things happen. He’ll fix it the more he plays.

SkinsGuru 09-20-2023 07:02 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1345980]Bad comparison, concrete feet Carson didn’t know what to do, Sam will take off and make things happen. He’ll fix it the more he plays.[/quote]

kind of agree . . .but Wentz was considered pretty mobile for a big guy coming out too. It seems as though guys that can sometimes tend to hold on for a little longer to try to make something happen. Howell needs to learn when to give that up, but it is a fine line between giving up to early and trying to hard and taking the sack and that trying to hard, when you have a mobile QB, is how he makes those incredible off script plays

SFREDSKIN 09-20-2023 07:09 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=SkinsGuru;1345982]kind of agree . . .but Wentz was considered pretty mobile for a big guy coming out too. It seems as though guys that can sometimes tend to hold on for a little longer to try to make something happen. Howell needs to learn when to give that up, but it is a fine line between giving up to early and trying to hard and taking the sack and that trying to hard, when you have a mobile QB, is how he makes those incredible off script plays[/quote]

Howell’s biggest assets are his poise, decision making, toughness and quiet fire.

mredskins 09-20-2023 07:22 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1345983]Howell’s biggest assets are his poise, decision making, toughness and quiet fire.[/quote]

And he knows how to slide , literally if a certain QB that came here in the past could have learned that , might seen a few more years of magic from him

Chico23231 09-21-2023 07:47 AM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=mredskins;1345985]And he knows how to slide , literally if a certain QB that came here in the past could have learned that , might seen a few more years of magic from him[/quote]

Not really. RG3 couldn’t read a defense and didn’t understand a pro style offense.

RG3 didn’t fail because of injuries, RG3 failed because he wasn’t a passer. He couldn’t operate an offense from the pocket. RG3 never learned what a route tree in college, that’s the basics he didn’t know.

skinsfaninok 09-21-2023 08:21 AM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=Chico23231;1345997]Not really. RG3 couldn’t read a defense and didn’t understand a pro style offense.

RG3 didn’t fail because of injuries, RG3 failed because he wasn’t a passer. He couldn’t operate an offense from the pocket. RG3 never learned what a route tree in college, that’s the basics he didn’t know.[/quote]

Agree, and honestly JF is very similar to RG3, Both explosive athlets good arms but can't read a defense for shit

punch it in 09-21-2023 08:47 AM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[QUOTE=jamf;1345979]I hope you're right but he appears to have that Carson Wentz holding on to the ball trait.[/QUOTE]


Yeah because he is trying to hard to make something happen, not because he wet himself and is frozen in fear. It’s different. Lol.

Meks 09-21-2023 09:25 AM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=jamf;1345979]I hope you're right but he appears to have that Carson Wentz holding on to the ball trait.[/quote]

He's brand new, his decision making and quickness with it will improve like the rest of his game... in time.

BaltimoreSkins 09-21-2023 09:34 AM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1345983]Howell’s biggest assets are his poise, decision making, toughness and quiet fire.[/quote]

I think you should be come an agent. I love how you are trying to sell quiet fire as an attribute.

There is a lot to like so far in the SSS we have seen. It is definitely the best I have felt about a QB since 2012.

AnonEmouse 09-21-2023 06:12 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[URL="https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-qb-index-week-3-sam-howell-vaults-into-top-15-joe-burrow-jalen-hurts-slip"]https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-qb-index-week-3-sam-howell-vaults-into-top-15-joe-burrow-jalen-hurts-slip[/URL]

Even if the team isn't getting the respect 2-0 deserves, Sam is. But I can't see how you can rate some of these guys above him. For me he's performed better than Prescott, Burrow at least, if not Goff and Stafford too.


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