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CultBrennan59 02-24-2012 11:05 AM

Re: Eight QBs and Where The Latest Rumors Have Them Going
 
[quote=30gut;888390]Why?[/quote]

One word: miami!

Hog1 02-24-2012 11:08 AM

Re: Eight QBs and Where The Latest Rumors Have Them Going
 
OK..........but how bout' Wheaton?

Paintrain 02-24-2012 11:30 AM

Re: Eight QBs and Where The Latest Rumors Have Them Going
 
[quote=Hog1;888421]OK..........but how bout' Wheaton?[/quote]

Will?

skinsguy 02-24-2012 11:31 AM

Re: Eight QBs and Where The Latest Rumors Have Them Going
 
The only one I would see going #6 would be Tannehill, and I think even that is a stretch.

mredskins 02-24-2012 11:34 AM

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[quote=SBXVII;888412]?

Look folks. "IF" the Browns are infatuated as some say with RGIII and they really want him... they are going to get him. Right now they are in talks with the Rams, but lets say the Rams are like "no, we want to draft a OL to protect Bradford", fine then the Browns are going to start talking to the Vikings because they are not going to let the Skins jump ahead of them and take RGIII.

The Browns have the most ammo, the Browns will trade with whoever in order to get RGIII (if they want him) in order to keep us from getting him instead of them. I'm sure in the perfect world they too would love for him to fall to their draft pick, but he won't and they too are worried we will step up and make a play with the Rams so you might as well figure they will make a better offer to the Rams.

I just don't see RGIII falling to #3 or beyond. If the Rams don't want him then they are going to go out and get the best deal they can get whether it's with the Browns, Skins, or Dolphins or any other team for that matter. The Browns just have the most ammo right now.

My terrible Mock:
1- Colts-Luck
2- Browns- RGIII
3- Vikes- Blackmon
4- Bucks- Claiborne
5- Rams- Kalil
6- Skins- Weeden

I know this is not everyone idea and not mine either but I believe if we don't take him at #6 and trade back which is what I want ... I'm affraid Miami will take him. I think they are interested in Weeden also.[/quote]

there is no way the skins draft Weeden there.

Paintrain 02-24-2012 11:43 AM

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[quote=SBXVII;888412]
My terrible Mock:
1- Colts-Luck
2- Browns- RGIII
3- Vikes- Blackmon
4- Bucks- Claiborne
5- Rams- Kalil
6- Skins- Weeden

I know this is not everyone idea and not mine either but I believe if we don't take him at #6 and trade back which is what I want ... I'm affraid Miami will take him. I think they are interested in Weeden also.[/quote]

Weeden will be fortunate to be picked at 26, no way he's going at #6. Would the Rams trade down twice, how are they getting to 5? Vikes will take Khalil over Blackmon, LT is a bigger need for them than WR. If we are at 6 with all of those players off the board, I could see (in a major reach) Tannehill at this spot or a trade down. We really don't need to stockpile picks again this year, not with 10 2011 draftees expected on the 2012 roster.

NC_Skins 02-24-2012 11:49 AM

Re: Eight QBs and Where The Latest Rumors Have Them Going
 
[quote=SBXVII;888412]
My terrible Mock:
1- Colts-Luck
2- Browns- RGIII
3- Vikes- Blackmon
4- Bucks- Claiborne
5- Rams- Kalil
6- Skins- Weeden
[/quote]


Don't quit your day job because you suck at mock drafting.

1) How would the Rams end up at #5 if they traded with the Browns at #4?

2) Kalil not in the top 4?....lol

3) Weeden at #6? Are you friends with Fred Davis and Trent Williams by chance? Smoke buddies perhaps?


:doh:

Duffman003 02-24-2012 11:51 AM

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Does anyone have the chart of the value of each draft pick for trading? I assume it's changed since the new CBA and made the top 5 draft choices a lot more valuable.

artmonkforhallofamein07 02-24-2012 12:11 PM

Re: Eight QBs and Where The Latest Rumors Have Them Going
 
I could see Kalil and another LT being taken in the top 5.

This could end up being one of those drafts like a couple of years ago. It was the year we drafted Rak, were we saw a couple of teams reach for Oline because there was a run on the top OL guys. There is really good talent at the G and T posisitons this year.

SmootSmack 02-24-2012 12:17 PM

Re: Eight QBs and Where The Latest Rumors Have Them Going
 
[quote=skinsguy;888438]The only one I would see going #6 would be Tannehill, and I think even that is a stretch.[/quote]

How about

1. Colts-Luck
2. Rams-Kalil
3. Dolphins (trade with Vikings)-RG3
4. Browns-Blackmon
5. Bucs-Richardson
6. Vikings (trade with Redskins)-Claiborne
7. Jaguars-Ingram
8. Redskins-Tannehill

celts32 02-24-2012 12:21 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;888460]How about

1. Colts-Luck
2. Rams-Kalil
3. Dolphins (trade with Vikings)-RG3
4. Browns-Blackmon
5. Bucs-Richardson
6. Vikings (trade with Redskins)-Claiborne
7. Jaguars-Ingram
8. Redskins-Tannehill[/quote]

Not my 1st choice but not bad as long as we have also signed Manning.

skinsguy 02-24-2012 12:21 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;888460]How about

1. Colts-Luck
2. Rams-Kalil
3. Dolphins (trade with Vikings)-RG3
4. Browns-Blackmon
5. Bucs-Richardson
6. Vikings (trade with Redskins)-Claiborne
7. Jaguars-Ingram
8. Redskins-Tannehill[/quote]

I would be just fine with that I believe.

celts32 02-24-2012 12:23 PM

Re: Eight QBs and Where The Latest Rumors Have Them Going
 
[quote=SBXVII;888412]?

Look folks. "IF" the Browns are infatuated as some say with RGIII and they really want him... they are going to get him. Right now they are in talks with the Rams, but lets say the Rams are like "no, we want to draft a OL to protect Bradford", fine then the Browns are going to start talking to the Vikings because they are not going to let the Skins jump ahead of them and take RGIII.

The Browns have the most ammo, the Browns will trade with whoever in order to get RGIII (if they want him) in order to keep us from getting him instead of them. I'm sure in the perfect world they too would love for him to fall to their draft pick, but he won't and they too are worried we will step up and make a play with the Rams so you might as well figure they will make a better offer to the Rams.

I just don't see RGIII falling to #3 or beyond. If the Rams don't want him then they are going to go out and get the best deal they can get whether it's with the Browns, Skins, or Dolphins or any other team for that matter. The Browns just have the most ammo right now.

My terrible Mock:
1- Colts-Luck
2- Browns- RGIII
3- Vikes- Blackmon
4- Bucks- Claiborne
5- Rams- Kalil
6- Skins- Weeden

I know this is not everyone idea and not mine either but I believe if we don't take him at #6 and trade back which is what I want ... I'm affraid Miami will take him. I think they are interested in Weeden also.[/quote]

If this happens I am going to need a new TV followed by a trip to the emergency room...

SmootSmack 02-24-2012 12:28 PM

Re: Eight QBs and Where The Latest Rumors Have Them Going
 
This is what I've been trying to get at when I say I don't believe the gap between RG3 and Tannehill is huge

[url=http://www.realredskins.com/rich-tandlers-real-redsk/2012/02/at-qb-its-a-matter-of-value.html]At QB, it's a matter of value - Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url]

[QUOTE]Most say it will cost this year’s first- and second-round picks and next year’s first, and perhaps more, to move up to draft Griffin. Instead of the Redskins making that move they could take Tannehill with their own pick, the sixth overall.

So, it’s not a matter of Griffin vs. Tannehill. It’s Griffin v. Tannehill plus whoever the Redskins could get in the second round this year plus the player they could get in the first round next year[/QUOTE]

celts32 02-24-2012 12:41 PM

Re: Eight QBs and Where The Latest Rumors Have Them Going
 
[quote=SmootSmack;888467]This is what I've been trying to get at when I say I don't believe the gap between RG3 and Tannehill is huge

[url=http://www.realredskins.com/rich-tandlers-real-redsk/2012/02/at-qb-its-a-matter-of-value.html]At QB, it's a matter of value - Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url][/quote]

True but if RG3 is a franchise QB and Tannehill is something less then that it won't really matter that you also got a couple other good players. Over the next 10 years the extra cost is marginal...what's important is that they get the QB they believe is the better one. If in their evaluation the grades are very similar then picking Tannehill and keeping the extra picks is the right move.

Basically, I don't want to hear that we got our 3rd favorite QB but look at this lineman we got. No more settling. Franchise QB trumps all other needs...


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