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[quote=nonniey;1295563]Uh no - that is the exact opposite of what happened. They emphatically refused to give him up and certainly didn't volunteer to give up power. Where the heck are you getting your information? Oh and it was 2001.[/quote]

Here is an article from Dec. 2001 [url]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/dec/07/afghanistan.julianborger1[/url]

The Taliban agreed to relinquish their last strong hold and relinquish their weapons in return for amnesty for Omar. We said no to diplomacy and yes to war. I am not saying Taliban would have kept their end of the bargain but we never even considered it.

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[quote=punch it in;1295603]Btw im not saying Bush should or shouldn’t have negotiated with them. Im just saying that he did refuse to listen to offers about it. Which is what Baltimore said. As for relinquishing power im not sure what he meant there.[/quote]

WE use to have a policy that the US didn't negotiate with terrorists, I agreed with it then and agree with it now.

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[quote=Giantone;1296152]WE use to have a policy that the US didn't negotiate with terrorists, I agreed with it then and agree with it now.[/quote]

I mean you really can't. It's heartbreaking when people have to die. But if you keep doing it, more people will die, and terrorists will do it more often.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1296182]I mean you really can't. It's heartbreaking when people have to die. But if you keep doing it, more people will die, and terrorists will do it more often.[/quote]

Saw something similar in Iraq. There was a kidnapping spree on foreigners (for money), but Americans were never targeted because we didn't pay ransom.

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Got em'. Have fun in hell bitch.

US takes out Al Qaeda leader Ayman Al Zawahiri in 'successful' Afghanistan counterterrorism operation

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-conducts-successful-counterterrorism-operation-takes-out-significant-al-qaeda-target-afghanistan[/url]

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1318895]Got em'. Have fun in hell bitch.

US takes out Al Qaeda leader Ayman Al Zawahiri in 'successful' Afghanistan counterterrorism operation

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-conducts-successful-counterterrorism-operation-takes-out-significant-al-qaeda-target-afghanistan[/url][/quote]

It's nice when we can agree on things.

Happy to see another turd flushed down the proverbial toilet. Next!

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He was the last of the Al Qaeda leadership that was in place at the time of the 9/11 attacks. We had already killed or captured everyone else.

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It's hard for me to believe that 9/11 was almost 21 years ago.

Good riddance Asshole.

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Always quiet in here when Iran starts killing it’s citizens in the streets

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[quote=Chico23231;1324482]Always quiet in here when Iran starts killing it’s citizens in the streets[/quote]

Since when do you care?

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Sending them to hell, one asshole at a time:

U.S. airstrike kills extremist al-Shabab leader: 'Thorn removed from the Somali nation'

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-airstrike-kills-extremist-al-shabab-leader-thorn-removed-somali-nation[/url]

Best of luck to their president on this one:

"Somali President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud, who took office in May, recently vowed 'total war' against al-Shabab."

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[quote=Giantone;1324489]Since when do you care?[/quote]

Do you care Iran is sending drones and military equipment to the Russians and being used against the Ukraines?

Or Iran is helping Russian avoid sanctions?

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[quote=Chico23231;1324510]Do you care Iran is sending drones and military equipment to the Russians and being used against the Ukraines?

Or Iran is helping Russian avoid sanctions?[/quote]

LOL, no dipshit you made a comment and I asked you a fucking question and you ignore it and talk about drones ,Russia and Ukraine. Stop you BS and tell us why we should care what happens in Iran?

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I suggest getting gas today and filling up.

Biden administration has failed to dissuade OPEC countries from cutting oil production and moved meetings back to every 2 months

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[quote=Chico23231;1324600]I suggest getting gas today and filling up.

Biden administration has failed to dissuade OPEC countries from cutting oil production and moved meetings back to every 2 months[/quote]

??????????????????????????

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chico , your boy fucked up again!

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/twitter-critics-explode-over-trumps-002638135.html[/url]

Twitter Critics Explode Over Trump's [B]Threat To Jews To Be More Grateful To Him Or Else[/B]


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Twitter Critics Explode Over Trump's Threat To Jews To Be More Grateful To Him Or Else
Mary Papenfuss
Sun, October 16, 2022 at 8:26 PM
Donald Trump critics had a meltdown on Twitter Sunday after the former president warned Jews to be “more appreciative” of him before it’s “too late.”

Trump posted the startling message Sunday morning on Truth Social.

“[B]No President has done more for Israel than I have. Somewhat surprisingly, however, our wonderful Evangelicals are far more appreciative of this than the people of the Jewish faith, especially those living in the U.S.,” he railed.
[/B]
Trump also wildly claimed that he was so popular in Israel that he could become the nation’s prime minister.

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i quite like that biden got in an arguement with the saudis. maybe the gov do feel like they can double down on electric cars now

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US carries out strike targeting Iraqi militia leader in Baghdad

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-carries-strike-targeting-iraqi-militia-leader-baghdad-official[/url]

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RIP. I take for granted that there are real people doing real shit every day out there. Shitty story.

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/gma/navy-identifies-2-seals-lost-201132099.html[/url]

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1357623]RIP. I take for granted that there are real people doing real shit every day out there. Shitty story.

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/gma/navy-identifies-2-seals-lost-201132099.html[/url][/quote]

Supposedly one of the most dangerous things you can do is trying to board a larger ship from a smaller "pilot" boat - you have to time it just right with the waves to avoid going overboard. And that's with a larger ship that is trying to get you onboard. Now imagine you're trying to board a ship that either doesn't know you're there or doesn't want you on board and imagine how much harder that is. RIP to two of the Navy's finest.

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Weird how Biden removed the Houthis off the terrorism list at the start of his presidency only too now reinstate them back on the terrorism list.

Embarrassment, piece of shit President. Worst president since Carter.

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[quote=Chico23231;1359366]Weird how Biden removed the Houthis off the terrorism list at the start of his presidency only too now reinstate them back on the terrorism list.

Embarrassment, piece of shit President. Worst president since Carter.[/quote]

2d worst.

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[quote=Chico23231;1359366]Weird how Biden removed the Houthis off the terrorism list at the start of his presidency only too now reinstate them back on the terrorism list.

Embarrassment, piece of shit President. Worst president since Carter.[/quote]

Eh, I'd rather have a president that admits his mistakes vs [URL="https://www.rawstory.com/trump-carroll-new-lawsuit-3/"]one who doubles down on them[/URL].

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[quote=nonniey;1359370]2d worst.[/quote]

How’s that appease Iran strategy going?

11 embassies evacuated under Biden administration, a record.

War in Gaza, Middle East on fire, war in Ukraine, Afghanistan debacle, etc

Biden is a god damn embarrassment

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[quote=Chico23231;1361218]How’s that appease Iran strategy going?

11 embassies evacuated under Biden administration, a record.

War in Gaza, Middle East on fire, war in Ukraine, Afghanistan debacle, etc

Biden is a god damn embarrassment[/quote]


Yep, he is horrible the 2d worst (or maybe third -really is a toss-up with Carter) President the US has had in the past 47 years.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1361218]How’s that appease Iran strategy going?



11 embassies evacuated under Biden administration, a record.



War in Gaza, Middle East on fire, war in Ukraine, Afghanistan debacle, etc



Biden is a god damn embarrassment[/QUOTE]to be fair Speaker Johnson and his people have held up support for Israel and Ukraine for 6 months and the dictatorship world sees that as weakness far more then what stumbling Biden has done. Both parties are leading our country and this world into a dark place.

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[quote=mooby;1359385]Eh, I'd rather have a president that admits his mistakes vs [URL="https://www.rawstory.com/trump-carroll-new-lawsuit-3/"]one who doubles down on them[/URL].[/quote]

Well, to be honest very few Presidents have that trait - frankly I think W is the only one that immediately comes to mind (Not even sure if his father or even Reagan (who was the best post war President) had that trait).

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1361220]to be fair Speaker Johnson and his people have held up support for Israel and Ukraine for 6 months and the dictatorship world sees that as weakness far more then what stumbling Biden has done. Both parties are leading our country and this world into a dark place.

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Ultimately the person in charge is Biden and foreign policy is shaped by that administration

I call results above a lil bit more than a stumble. From the Abraham Accords to this?

Whether it’s kowtowing to Iran in the Middle East or the failure of Russian sanctions, rallying funding from Europeans or at home for Ukraine, he ain’t getting it done and results prove it.

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[quote=Chico23231;1361224]Ultimately the person in charge is Biden and foreign policy is shaped by that administration

I call results above a lil bit more than a stumble. From the Abraham Accords to this?

Whether it’s kowtowing to Iran in the Middle East or the failure of Russian sanctions, rallying funding from Europeans or at home for Ukraine, he ain’t getting it done and results prove it.[/quote]

Your stupidity is only out done by your ignorance.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1361224]Ultimately the person in charge is Biden and foreign policy is shaped by that administration



I call results above a lil bit more than a stumble. From the Abraham Accords to this?



Whether it’s kowtowing to Iran in the Middle East or the failure of Russian sanctions, rallying funding from Europeans or at home for Ukraine, he ain’t getting it done and results prove it.[/QUOTE]When Johnson can hold up aid that has overwhelming Congressional support, that directly affects US foreign policy. Biden submitted, and the Senate passed an aid bill that directly addressed the southern border as well but Johnson pigeonholed it. And people worldwide (in the US too) have died as a result. That is on the Republicans. Biden's incompetence is on the Democrat's, and ultimately we citizens will bear the brunt of both.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1361231]When Johnson can hold up aid that has overwhelming Congressional support, that directly affects US foreign policy. Biden submitted, and the Senate passed an aid bill that directly addressed the southern border as well but Johnson pigeonholed it. And people worldwide (in the US too) have died as a result. That is on the Republicans. Biden's incompetence is on the Democrat's, and ultimately we citizens will bear the brunt of both.

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Giant this is how you respond to a post you disagree with. Your response (just above this) was back to your normal form of being juvenile, insulting and not and adding a bit of value to the conversation or board.

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[quote=nonniey;1361232]Giant this is how you respond to a post you disagree with. Your response (just above this) was back to your normal form of being juvenile, insulting and not and adding a bit of value to the conversation or board.[/quote]

You haven't learned a thing, chico does not warrant civil discourse, yes it's that simple. WTFU.

Honestly to add your constant bitching about Biden is almost as annoying anything chico throws out. Make no mistake I am not a fan but he is one hundred times better then the alternative.

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[quote=nonniey;1361232]Giant this is how you respond to a post you disagree with. Your response (just above this) was back to your normal form of being juvenile, insulting and not and adding a bit of value to the conversation or board.[/quote]

Not here for your approval, I will respond any damn way I want. Agreeing at any point with chico is what is juvenile.

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Pretty disappointing to hear crickets in here about the rampant, nonstop antisemitism across this country.

Literally tiki torches marches and violence every week across the country towards Jews and Biden been relatively quiet.

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It's the result of 3 decades of complete progressive control of universities. Shouldn't be a surprise. And it's been crickets on every subject in here for months.

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[quote=nonniey;1361364]It's the result of 3 decades of complete progressive control of universities. Shouldn't be a surprise. And it's been crickets on every subject in here for months.[/quote]

All levels of education. Up to and through universities.

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Charlottesville is peanuts compared to what we have seen

Never want to hear about Charlottesville ever again by these hypocrites and cowards

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Iran's president, foreign minister, other officials confirmed dead in helicopter crash

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/world/no-sign-life-crash-site-helicopter-iranian-president-ebrahim-raisi-leaders[/url]

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I think it is time for the Biden administration and Congress to buck up and at the very least threaten to withhold funds from Israel. In the span of a week Netanyahu has been culpable in the death of two Americans Hersh Goldberg-Polin and Aysenur Ezgi Eygi. Not to mention the Palestinian Americans and aid workers that were also killed earlier.

I will give the IDF credit they are very good at mistakenly killing people.

We know they won't do the right thing to close to an election to do the right thing.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1364398]I think it is time for the Biden administration and Congress to buck up and at the very least threaten to withhold funds from Israel. In the span of a week Netanyahu has been culpable in the death of two Americans Hersh Goldberg-Polin and Aysenur Ezgi Eygi. Not to mention the Palestinian Americans and aid workers that were also killed earlier.

I will give the IDF credit they are very good at mistakenly killing people.

We know they won't do the right thing to close to an election to do the right thing.[/quote]

Yeah I disagree with all of our old and new elected leaders on this. I support Israel's right to defend itself, but that doesn't include killing civilians who want nothing to do with that conflict.