Re: Time to bench Brunell? (Mega-merge)
 

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Re: Time to bench Brunell? (Mega-merge)
 

There is always a need to find a scapegoat when things are going poorly. The starting quarterback is usually the number one target.

To me, we are having a very hard time as a team learning this offense. It isn't just the x's and o's, and how you implement them on the field, which is hard enough. It is also the attitude that is different as one Post writer mentioned - going from a smashmouth orientation to this, for lack of a better word, finesse approach of Saunders. Finesse may not be the right word at all, but clearly in any case the Redskins are far from comfortable working in this offense.

And it will take time to get there.

If there was any mistake, as Thomas Boswell suggested could be a possibility, it might be that we were overconfident that the players understood the offense in the preseason and the coaches didn't see fit to work on putting it into play in the preseason games. That might have cost us development time.

Mark Brunell showed what kind of quarterback he was last year when he wasn't injured. This stuff about him not playing well if he has the slightest pain is in my view nonsense. What Brunell did was not talk openly about the amount of pain he was in - much more than we had the information to know about and put into perspective.

Re: Time to bench Brunell? (Mega-merge)
 

nobody's answered this question though:

after suffering the losses it takes to get Brunell fluent in this new offense, what are we going to do with a 36 year old QB?

i assume Gibbs figured Brunell would've acclimated to Saunders offense more quickly than Campbell, but it clearly hasn't been that quick.

I really think Campbell's fresher legs and arm alone may won one of those games (whats the point of Brunell not throwing INTs if he doesn't throw any TDs?), either way the much needed experience would have been a boon for Campbell on his way to being our QB of the future. with Brunell, WHATS THE UPSIDE?

Re: Time to bench Brunell? (Mega-merge)
 

yup... good post.


[quote=illdefined;217356]nobody's answered this question though:

after suffering the losses it takes to get Brunell fluent in this new offense, what are we going to do with a 36 year old QB?

i assume Gibbs figured Brunell would've acclimated to Saunders offense more quickly than Campbell, but it clearly hasn't been that quick.

I really think Campbell's fresher legs and arm alone may won one of those games (whats the point of Brunell not throwing INTs if he doesn't throw any TDs?), either way the much needed experience would have been a boon for Campbell on his way to being our QB of the future. with Brunell, WHATS THE UPSIDE?[/quote]

Re: Time to bench Brunell? (Mega-merge)
 

[quote=illdefined;217356]nobody's answered this question though:

after suffering the losses it takes to get Brunell fluent in this new offense, what are we going to do with a 36 year old QB?

i assume Gibbs figured Brunell would've acclimated to Saunders offense more quickly than Campbell, but it clearly hasn't been that quick.

I really think Campbell's fresher legs and arm alone may won one of those games (whats the point of Brunell not throwing INTs if he doesn't throw any TDs?), either way the much needed experience would have been a boon for Campbell on his way to being our QB of the future. with Brunell, WHATS THE UPSIDE?[/quote] exactly!!!!! everybody keeps saying Brunell gives us the best chance to win now. Well, heres a news flash. WE ARE NOT WINNING NOW. WTF are we waiting for???


I think Brunell is going to be on a very short leash. Gibbs mentioned in todays press confernence that Brunell has been "inconsistent". That is about as bad as it gets from Gibbs. He does not call out his players. IMO Gibbs knows Brunell is on his last leg. He will do whats right for us.

Re: Time to bench Brunell? (Mega-merge)
 

[QUOTE=illdefined;217356]i assume Gibbs figured Brunell would've acclimated to Saunders offense more quickly than Campbell, but it clearly hasn't been that quick. [/QUOTE]

I just don't think that's the problem. Players today get so much more time to study and prepare in the offseason. They have more mini-camps, OTA's, it's much more involved than it used to be.

Brunell has had plenty of time to review and go over this offense. It's not like Gibbs and Saunders snuck into Brunell's bedroom early one August morning, hit him over the head with the 700 page playbook, and said "know this by September 11."

Re: Time to bench Brunell? (Mega-merge)
 

[QUOTE=gibbsisgod;217360]Gibbs mentioned in todays press confernence that Brunell has been "inconsistent". That is about as bad as it gets from Gibbs. He does not call out his players.[/QUOTE]

Again, another misuse of the word "inconsistent" by Gibbs.

Brunell has been very consistent -- consistent at sucking out loud.

Re: Time to bench Brunell? (Mega-merge)
 

67.8% of the WARPATH cant be wrong!! Go with Campbell!!!!

Re: Time to bench Brunell? (Mega-merge)
 

Anybody thought that the offensive line sucks? I am not saying that it is them, but I am not saying it is Brunell. Yes, he looks weak, and somebody needs to sit him down and point that out to him, lets face it, our offense sucks. It is not the coach, it is not the Qb, it is not the play calling. It is the team, they look lost as hell(Cooley, Brunell, Offensive line, Cheerleaders) everyone looks lost. And they better fix damn fix it or we are the team that all the league wants us to be. SHITTY

Re: Time to bench Brunell? (Mega-merge)
 

[QUOTE=TAFKAS;217319]Seriously though, if we're going to badmouth Brunell we really shouldn't do it [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respect_for_the_Aged_Day"]today[/URL]. Let's show some respect and save it for tomorrow[/QUOTE]

haha, I didnt have to go work yesterday because of this wonderful day

Re: Time to bench Brunell? (Mega-merge)
 

[QUOTE=twinskinsfan;217376]Anybody thought that the offensive line sucks? I am not saying that it is them, but I am not saying it is Brunell. Yes, he looks weak, and somebody needs to sit him down and point that out to him, lets face it, our offense sucks. It is not the coach, it is not the Qb, it is not the play calling. It is the team, they look lost as hell(Cooley, Brunell, Offensive line, Cheerleaders) everyone looks lost. And they better fix damn fix it or we are the team that all the league wants us to be. SHITTY[/QUOTE]

to be somewhat fair, let's remember the cowboys sent the house more than normal... and betts/duckett don't come close to picking up the blitz like portis. i still think the o-line is still adjusting to the new schemes (no doubt about that). dockery was getting comfortable last season, but this new system probably has him confused. rabach isn't looking like himself either.

Benching Brunell may not be the answer.
 

Benching Brunell might make alot of people happy right now. But has anyone thought that maybe it is our team collectively that blows? Our offesive line sucks. Yes, Brunell at this very momemt, the obvious, SUCKS, and the coahes suck. I think everybody on the offensive side is lost as hell, nobldy has a clue where they are supposed to be at anytime. The defense, I think the rest of the league has figured us out. They know where we are coming from, and WAHT THE HELL, IF YOU WANT TO SCORE A TOUCHDOWN ON THE REDSKINS, THEN....THROW IT DEEP!!! easy as that.

Re: Benching Brunell may not be the answer.
 

I wish I could say something wise and unconventional... and I really want to say "start Mark Brunell". I mean I wish I could say "Look at last year... he looked sooo bad... and then BOOM! He came out of no-where and showed up".. ..

I want to say Mark Brunell still has a few great years left. He had a career year last year. He threw for over 3000 yards. He was a Force.

But I forgot last year. I live in the present. I speak on raw emotion, and I have blind faith in a rookie quarterback that has never thrown a pass in the NFL. My Judgement far exceeds a 3 time superbowl winner. I'm educated... I watch sportscenter. I should be the coach. Joe Gibbs is a great guy and all but isn't he fed up with Mark? I am so bitter about losing to Dallas that something MUST change. I can't stand losing, so I'm going to change the guy that took us to the playoffs last year and threw for 25 touchdowns and 10 interceptions and put my eggs in a different basket. Ef you Mark Brunell, YOU SUCK.

Re: Time to bench Brunell? (Mega-merge)
 

I'm so amazed at ALL OF YOU! Two games down and this is what happens? JESUS CHRIST! If Portis was playing, we would be talking about REPLACING portis too. This is absolutely ridicilous. I think everyone is trying to place the blame on anything that is accessible; who is more blamable than mark Brunell? He gave us an Amazing year, and I really do mean that. Look at the Stats; they are fucking good. He played a good game last week... and this week things fell apart so it means he must be benched. But do any of you realize if we throw Jason Campell In there, its going to be a waste of a year? If the redskins dont' get a running game, Jason Cambell is going to get messed up. IF the redskins don't get a running game now, Mark Brunell isn't going to succeed either. If the Redskins dont' get a running game, the Defense is going to suffer.

So before we start blaming Mark Brunell for everything that happened to the redskins for the past 30 years, lets look at the lack of running the ball.

Re: Benching Brunell may not be the answer.
 

I hear what you're saying, twinskins. Though I don't know that it warranted a new thread. You're echoing the sentiments of several people who have said all the blame can't be Brunell's in several posts in several threads. The blame has to go all around, including but not only Brunell.