Re: Broncos to trade Cutler
 

[quote=T.O.Killa;541560]Exactly, [B]I would feel the same way if I went too work tomorrow and found out they tried to send me two thousand miles away.[/B] Also, every Campbell supporter takes it so personally that some fans want Cutler. Hey Campbell is a stand up guy, great in every intangible, but he just cant get the ball to his receivers and thats probably not going to change.[/quote]

Again with the real world comparisons. Maybe I'll go to my boss tomorrow and demand a trade. :doh:

Re: Broncos to trade Cutler
 

[quote=Ruhskins;541557]Why is this reminding of the whole fiasco with Gregg Williams' interview...

[URL="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9403016/Cutler-speaks:-%27I-didn%27t-want-to-get-traded%27"]FOX Sports on MSN - NFL - Cutler speaks: 'I didn't want to get traded'[/URL][/quote]
It's really ridiculous.. if they didn't meet up I'd say somebody wasn't contacting someone or returning calls, I think that Cutler and Cook are saying they weren't contacted to keep his stock higher, just doesn't sound right

puts his house on the market, demands a trade, then acts shocked when they go through with it.. so much drama.. I mean good player, but damn

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[quote=tryfuhl;541567]It's really ridiculous.. if they didn't meet up I'd say somebody wasn't contacting someone or returning calls, I think that Cutler and Cook are saying they weren't contacted to keep his stock higher, just doesn't sound right

puts his house on the market, demands a trade, then acts shocked when they go through with it.. so much drama.. I mean good player, but damn[/quote]

I must say, as much as I am slamming on Cutler's character, the Broncos have f'ed up themselves, so I'm giving Cutler the benefit of the doubt. I still don't agree with his reaction, but I do think McDaniels is f'ing up too. My friend who's a Broncos fan is hating every second of this saga.

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[quote=SmootSmack;541551]Well we haven't actually done anything here in this case, so no need to panic[/quote]

Just the fact that they are pent up all day in Snyders office really effin irks me for the following reasons.

1. Why the hell is Snyder involved in this crap...Don't say because of money because as of now there should be no contract talks being spoken of. It shows me that he's WAY TOO involved with the personnel process.

2. The FO is still focusing on trying to improve skill positions instead of our real issue, which is OL. They won't have a way of improving the OL this year if they trade our goods for Cutler.

3. The FO has already said that they are not making any move that involves Cutler and this is obviously contradicts every thing they've said. If you don't want people to know your business, just CLOSE YOUR MOUTH!...the FO just seems really inept with how they handle these high profile situations.

Re: Broncos to trade Cutler
 

[quote=SmootSmack;541528]We've been trying to get a 2nd rounder (damn you Jason Taylor!!) for a while now. I know for sure we've dangled Santana Moss out there, and I'm almost positive we dangled Rogers out there as well.

I'm not as down on Cutler as others are, so under the right circumstances, I'm not going to flip a lid if he came here. That said, I still don't think this is where he ultimately ends up (that's just my opinion though). But either way, I don't think Campbell is the future here. I don't agree with it, I think it will be a mistake to let him go. But, as much as Redskins coaches and execs may sing his praises in public, [B]the truth is he has limited support (even from teammates) since even before he got hurt two seasons ago[/B]. His biggest supporter is now...the QB coach in Seattle.[/quote]

So how do you know this is? Are you hearing this from reliable sources?

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[quote=Lotus;541558]Da Bears, in the NFC, could get him, too, although only if the Broncos did not demand a good qb in return.[/quote]

Bears would love to get him, but they probably have less to offer than we do.

The top trade rumor out there is a 3-way that gets Cutler to Detroit, Quinn to Denver, and picks to Cleveland (and picks to Denver and Detroit as well)

It should be noted that contrary to popular belief, Cutler would actually kind of like the idea of playing in Detroit (he and Calvin Johnson are rumored to be pretty close, I think they share the same agent)

Re: Broncos to trade Cutler
 

[quote=Ruhskins;541570]I must say, as much as I am slamming on Cutler's character, the Broncos have f'ed up themselves, so I'm giving Cutler the benefit of the doubt. I still don't agree with his reaction, but I do think McDaniels is f'ing up too. My friend who's a Broncos fan is hating every second of this saga.[/quote]

Yeah, unfortunate situation for them no doubt. You hire in a hotshot young coordinator to be a head coach, look forward to your pro bowl qb maybe carrying you to the playoffs after some defensive moves, and bam.. here you are questioning all 3 of those..

I think that both are looking like cocky douchebags that refuse to budge

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[quote=SmootSmack;541576]Bears would love to get him, but they probably have less to offer than we do.

[B]The top trade rumor out there is a 3-way that gets Cutler to Detroit, Quinn to Denver, and picks to Cleveland (and picks to Denver and Detroit as well)[/B]

It should be noted that contrary to popular belief, Cutler would actually kind of like the idea of playing in Detroit (he and Calvin Johnson are rumored to be pretty close, I think they share the same agent)[/quote]

I know I am biased, but man this would make so much more sense.

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Meh. I hope someone is pulling LaCanfora's chain. This is rigoddamndiculous is what this is.

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[quote=Skinny Tee;541571]Just the fact that they are pent up all day in Snyders office really effin irks me for the following reasons.

1. Why the hell is Snyder involved in this crap...Don't say because of money because as of now there should be no contract talks being spoken of. It shows me that he's WAY TOO involved with the personnel process.[/quote]

Fair point

[quote]2. The FO is still focusing on trying to improve skill positions instead of our real issue, which is OL. They won't have a way of improving the OL this year if they trade our goods for Cutler.[/quote]

With or without Cutler, I think the likelihood of them holding on to the 13th overall pick is kinda shaky. It's a shame, because I think Oher would be there and would be an outstanding selection

[quote]3. The FO has already said that they are not making any move that involves Cutler and this is obviously contradicts every thing they've said. If you don't want people to know your business, just CLOSE YOUR MOUTH!...the FO just seems really inept with how they handle these high profile situations.[/quote]

I can't recall what exactly they've said in the past about Cutler. But I don't think we've heard anything from today. But by the same token, how do you feel about the Broncos saying he's available for a trade (assume you were a Broncos fan for a moment)

Re: Broncos to trade Cutler
 

[quote=Skinny Tee;541571]Just the fact that they are pent up all day in Snyders office really effin irks me for the following reasons.

1. Why the hell is Snyder involved in this crap...Don't say because of money because as of now there should be no contract talks being spoken of. It shows me that he's WAY TOO involved with the personnel process.

2. The FO is still focusing on trying to improve skill positions instead of our real issue, which is OL. They won't have a way of improving the OL this year if they trade our goods for Cutler.

3. The FO has already said that they are not making any move that involves Cutler and this is obviously contradicts every thing they've said. If you don't want people to know your business, just CLOSE YOUR MOUTH!...the FO just seems really inept with how they handle these high profile situations.[/quote]

saying you're not interested stops the overinflation of value before you're ready for a move

did we ever say we weren't interested.. or just that we weren't actively pursuing?

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[quote=skinsfan69;541573]So how do you know this is? Are you hearing this from reliable sources?[/quote]

Yeah, I'd like to think they're pretty reliable. I'm not saying his teammates dislike him, or even that it's all his teammates. Just that the organization hasn't rallied around him the way you'd like to see. Some think it's Campbell's fault to an extent, because of the way he is. He's not the rah-rah, follow me to freedom kind of guy.

Re: Broncos to trade Cutler
 

[quote=SmootSmack;541528]We've been trying to get a 2nd rounder (damn you Jason Taylor!!) for a while now. I know for sure we've dangled Santana Moss out there, and I'm almost positive we dangled Rogers out there as well.

[B]I'm not as down on Cutler as others are, so under the right circumstances, [/B]I'm not going to flip a lid if he came here. That said, I still don't think this is where he ultimately ends up (that's just my opinion though). But either way, I don't think Campbell is the future here. I don't agree with it, I think it will be a mistake to let him go. But, as much as Redskins coaches and execs may sing his praises in public, the truth is he has limited support (even from teammates) since even before he got hurt two seasons ago. His biggest supporter is now...the QB coach in Seattle.[/quote]

That's the key to whole thing right there. I've been saying it since day one of this fiasco. Cutler for Campbell straight up is a no brainer. But that's obviously never happening. It's all about how much we give up. In this case upgrading the QB position doesn't necessarily equate to upgrading the Redskins as a whole. And improving the TEAM (not wearing blinders and pigeon-holing all kinds of needs for one guy), should be the overall focus at all times.

Re: Broncos to trade Cutler
 

[quote=SmootSmack;541587]Yeah, I'd like to think they're pretty reliable. I'm not saying his teammates dislike him, or even that it's all his teammates. Just that the organization hasn't rallied around him the way you'd like to see. Some think it's Campbell's fault to an extent, because of the way he is. He's not the rah-rah, follow me to freedom kind of guy.[/quote]
He has his little quips about I know what I have, I know what I can do, just wait type things, but he's still soft-spoken so it doesn't come out Gladiator style.. more waiting in the wings style

I think that it plays more to his character and playing style to be how he is, because if he tried to come out as a hotshot he knows he'd be fooling himself and misleading the rest of us

Re: Broncos to trade Cutler
 

What's the latest? There are 10 pages of posts in the last three hours. I'm not reading all that. Someone summarize it for me.