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[quote=Dirtbag59;1069014][IMG]http://www.emotiyou.com/galerie/films/horreur/saw/201108060119CKK.gif[/IMG] Lets play a fun (read: cruel) game.

If the Redskins still had their second pick and were unable to find a trade partner to move back who would you want them to select?[/quote]

Mack. No question. If Mack is taken, then Clowney.

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No one would take a QB?

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[quote=Dirtbag59;1069014][IMG]http://www.emotiyou.com/galerie/films/horreur/saw/201108060119CKK.gif[/IMG] Lets play a fun (read: cruel) game.

If the Redskins still had their second pick and were unable to find a trade partner to move back who would you want them to select?[/quote]

Teddy Bridgewater, of course.

But if he were taken #1overall, it gets a lot tougher. I don't think Bortles, Manziel, or any other QB are worth that high of a pick, so that position is out of the picture. After Bridgewater, Greg Robinson is the next best prospect, but we already have Trent at LT. Khalil Mack is the 3rd best prospect, but then we already have Orakpo and Kerrigan at OLB. Probably would want to take either Robinson or Jadeveon Clowney. I'd be happy with just about any of those top prospects, though.

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Don't really think any of the top QBs are anywhere near the BPA. The right team with the right need and has convinced themselves one of the Manziel/Bridgewater/Carr/Bortles is going to be a star could make it happen. Not sure who'd that be though.

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If we hadn't made the desean move I'd seriously have considered Watkins. I hate taking WR so early but it's hard to justify some of the other top guys based on our current roster. My guess is they'd go T though and roll.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1069018]No one would take a QB?[/quote]

Sorry, I think I forgot to add that in this scenario everything is the same the lone exception being the price for the Rams #2 pick for RG3 back in 2012 was 2 first rounders instead of 3.

Come to think of it though in spite of Shanahan being a dirty word around here these days we do owe him a lot. He was the one that at least approved the decision to go up and get RG3, though its certainly is possible that it was his idea to begin with.

If you're a cynic you could also argue that his ego which convinced him he could get away with starting John Beck and Rex Grossman allowed us to get within striking distance of RG3.

And if you're a conspiracy theorist then the secret Illuminati/masononic [URL="http://news.fredericksburg.com/redskinsjournal/2012/09/13/jeff-fisher-mike-shanahan-agree-friendship-played-no-part-in-trade-redskins-rams/"]bond of Fischer and Shanahan[/URL] allowed the Redskins to get the RG3 pick instead of the Browns.

[quote=Lotus;1069016]Mack. No question. If Mack is taken, then Clowney.[/quote]

I figured most people would just have guessed Greg Robinson [OT AU]. Come to think of it through Mack [OLB Buf] would have been an intriguing pick. Of course the question at that point is where do you play him. On one hand you could argue he's the perfect replacement for Fletcher but then you'd be wasting his talent as a pass rusher playing him inside. Of course in the end that could easily be considered a good problem to have not to mention the depth at Tackle is much better than pass rusher.

Clowney [DE SC] though I don't like because, unlike Mack, you can't really play musical chairs with Clowney. I guess he could play DE though he doesn't really strike me as the JJ Watt type thats happy to work inside and find his way to the QB from there.

Personally though I think my pick if we still had #2 would be Matthews [OT A&M]. Not because I like him more than Robinson but I feel like down the line Robinson would be slightly more likely to want to test free agency in hopes of earning a LT spot and in turn the money that comes with it. Similar to [URL="http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9124413/branden-albert-wants-answers-kansas-city-chiefs"]Branden Albert in Kansas City[/URL]. At the very least I know Matthews was fine playing RT for 2 years while Joekel was on the left side.

Of course thats not to say that Matthews wouldn't also try to pull a Branden Albert in that situation but I'd feel a little more comfortable in our chances of keeping him long term.

You could also argue that since he grew up richer than....well mostly everyone, that he won't holdout for every last cent when his rookie contract is up. After all he went back for his senior year at A&M in spite of being a likely 1st round pick. Then again you could also argue that growing up he became, lets say accustomed, to the finer things in life and will squeeze his benefactors until the eagles on the back of their quarters scream.

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There's been talk about us taking a RB, Charles Sims or Marion Grice watched Utube on the both of them tough decision like Grice a little bit more than Sims but he has an injury background.

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I know the guy has problems but I like Colt Lyerla maybe a 6th rd pick on him.

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CB Bradley Roby arrested on suspicion of DUI. Maybe drops him further? He didn't have a good 2013.

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On 2nd look- the incident is nothing. He measured .008- well below the .08 legal limit.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;1069261]There's been talk about us taking a RB, Charles Sims or Marion Grice watched Utube on the both of them tough decision like Grice a little bit more than Sims but he has an injury background.[/quote]


This is why trading down makes sense. If a great player at a position of need is available at #34, take him, otherwise trade down. There are plenty of good players in the 4th round, and later.

I like Sims a little more than Grice. Sims is rated as a 4th round pick, and Grice a 7th round pick.

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Any takers on CB Aaron Colvin from Oklahoma and what round? He tore his ACL in Senior Bowl practice. He didn't tear his MCL, which apparently makes a big difference.

There was at least one draft analyst that projected him to go late 1st round before injury. Would it make sense to take a chance on him if the Redskins don't draft a CB in 2nd or 3rd Round assuming he'd sit most or all of 2014 season?

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2nd: Jason Verrett, CB, TCU
3rd: Shayne Skov, ILB, Stanford
4th: Ed Reynolds, FS, Stanford
5th: De'Anthony Thomas, RB/WR/KR, Oregon
6th: Colt Lyerla, TE, Oregon
7th: Pat O'Donnell, P/KOs, Miami

[QUOTE=SirLK26;1069442]2nd: Jason Verrett, CB, TCU

3rd: Shayne Skov, ILB, Stanford

4th: Ed Reynolds, FS, Stanford

5th: De'Anthony Thomas, RB/WR/KR, Oregon

6th: Colt Lyerla, TE, Oregon

7th: Pat O'Donnell, P/KOs, Miami[/QUOTE]


Wow not a single o-lineman? Dont get me wrong, I like all those players but we need 2 starters and probably another for good measure up front.

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[quote=punch it in;1069453]Wow not a single o-lineman? Dont get me wrong, I like all those players but we need 2 starters and probably another for good measure up front.[/quote]

Yeah, but Verrett, Skov, Reynolds, and O'Donnell could all start right away. Lyerla could be a beast early if he would stay out of trouble, and Thomas would be a great addition to our offense, as well as the KR if Andre Roberts isn't it. If we managed to have this type of draft, I would s*** myself every time I thought of it until the season started.

RT is the biggest need along the O-line, but after the RTs rated as 2nd rounders(Moses, Kouandijo, Fleming, James, etc.), there's a big drop-off in talent, IMO. If Verrett is available at #34, he'll almost certainly be the best player available, so I'd take him there. In the 3rd, barring a fall of one of the previously mentioned RTs, Skov would also likely be better than any RT left, as well as the best player available. Ditto for Reynolds in the 4th. If we drafted 3 immediate starters in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th, I wouldn't care at all if one of those wasn't an OL.

I'll be happy if we take an OL high, but I don't want to reach. I'm hoping that Leribeus at RG and either Compton or Polumbus at RT take a big enough step forward to claim the starting jobs without question. A lineup of Williams at LT, Lavuao at LG, Lichtensteiger at C, Leribeus at RG, and Compton at RT would make me quite optimistic. Like I said though, I'd be happy with an OL high.