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[quote=Jayroc24;1059328]Roman Harper is not the player he once was.....
I would like to see them target player on the under side of 30.[/quote]

I wouldn't sign anyone over 27.

Re: Current 2014 Free Agents
 

[quote=Mattyk;1059329]I wouldn't sign anyone over 27.[/quote]

Up until a while ago I had the same mind set.
But since we need so many new starters and so many other things that are recently fuxxored about this team I'll take any solid player thats healthy and isn't a screw up. Maybe in two years we'll have the luxury of only signing younger guys.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1059331]Up until a while ago I had the same mind set.
But since we need so many new starters and so many other things that are recently fuxxored about this team I'll take any solid player thats healthy and isn't a screw up. Maybe in two years we'll have the luxury of only signing younger guys.[/quote]

I agree with this. I would not be so rigid in acquiring talent. If a player is over 27, can play at a high level and is willing to sign a reasonable contract, I am ok with it.
All of our Superbowl teams were built with a mix of veterans and youth. Each year there is always a player or two in FA or available by trade that is a huge bargain because a teams FO deems a player is too old, but yet he can still play at a high level. Two years ago 49ers got Anquan Boldin for a 6th round pick.

Re: Current 2014 Free Agents
 

[quote=Mattyk;1059329]I wouldn't sign anyone over 27.[/quote]

I'll adopt and amend this to I wouldn't sign anyone over 27 to more than a two year deal. There are some players that potentially will be out there (Shaun Phillips, Jason Hatcher to name a couple) that are over 27 but could come in and make an impact the next couple of years. Where we run into danger is giving older players 4, 5 or 6 year contracts.

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Roman Harper was bad last year. I'd sign guys over 27 to small deals rather than pay an exuberant amount to young guys who may have excelled in a system. It depends on a lot of things, but I wouldn't limit our selfs. An example would be, I wouldn't pay a 30 million deal to Riley but I rather bring in the Darryl smith on a 2 year 10 million deal.

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Unless you're ready to win now there's no real sense in signing older players.

When you're trying to build that's the time to focus on youth, so in 2-3 years those guys you sign now are in their prime. Then you go ahead and add the older vets that have a smaller window to contribute. Just my 2 cents on it.

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I pretty much agree with Matty. The best values in FA are the younger ones, as they offer you their prime years. An older player as a one-year stopgap is fine but if you are signing someone as a building block, get 'em young.

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I think the team needs some help, but I think we actually can win now in this division. We won the division the year before, why not?

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[quote=Chico23231;1059344]I think the team needs some help, but I think we actually can win now in this division. We won the division the year before, why not?[/quote]

Sure they could win the division and do another one and done in the playoffs. I don't think they're close to being a serious SB contender. That's why I'd focus on the draft and stay away from the older vets in FA.

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[quote=Chico23231;1059344]I think the team needs some help, but I think we actually can win now in this division. We won the division the year before, why not?[/quote]

I'd rather try and build something rather then go with guys that will be here a year or two. Let's try and have a contender for several years. Seattle is going to be around for a long time with a good young core of guys. Hopefully we can do the same thing.

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[quote=Mattyk;1059345]Sure they could win the division and do another one and done in the playoffs. I don't think they're close to being a serious SB contender. That's why I'd focus on the draft and stay away from the older vets in FA.[/quote]

I 50% agree with you, as we saw what we were doing to the eventual SB champs with a 70% Griffin, it depends on how our defense improves and the growth of RGIII, Alfred, Garcon, and Jordan Reed on offense, if they can click and if our defense can improve. If that happens I feel we can be a contender.

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Also, it remains to be seen if David Amerson, Richard Crawford, Phillip Thomas, and Bacarri Rambo can develop into serious contributors. I felt Crawford was gonna turn into a very good slot CB before he got hurt last year, and this is basically Thomas's rookie season coming up.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1059356]Also, it remains to be seen if David Amerson, Richard Crawford, Phillip Thomas, and Bacarri Rambo can develop into serious contributors. I felt Crawford was gonna turn into a very good slot CB before he got hurt last year, and this is basically Thomas's rookie season coming up.[/quote]

I think there's no reason that Amerson can't be a solid #2 at the minimum.

We'll have to see how Crawford comes back from his injury, he had potential as well.

Rambo's going to need to learn to tackle better and take better routes to the ball to be anything other than a depth player.

Thomas - ???

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1059358]I think there's no reason that Amerson can't be a solid #2 at the minimum.

We'll have to see how Crawford comes back from his injury, he had potential as well.

Rambo's going to need to learn to tackle better and take better routes to the ball to be anything other than a depth player.

Thomas - ???[/quote]

I agree but funny thing about Thomas is, out of all our picks last year I felt he had the highest ceiling. Reminds me of TJ Ward coming out of Fresno State.

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i think age is a fluid and relative consideration. when we signed fletcher he was on the wrong side of 30 but his intangibles made him a smart FA addition.

age doesnt automatically scare me off. its certainly a consideration given our current state but if we can add a good vet here and there, im all for it.

i think nowadays, you have to view every year as your year and opportunity. maybe not the cleveland browns or raiders but i see us as a much more complete team than them.