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skinsfanthru&thru 12-13-2014 10:19 AM

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Don't know if this has been posted on here but it doesn't sound like we'd be on the hook for a whole lot if he finds another gig, even as a coordinator.

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2294231-insider-buzz-contract-could-entice-redskins-to-fire-gruden-instead-of-cut-rg3]Insider Buzz: Contract Could Entice Redskins to Fire Gruden Instead of Cut RG3 | Bleacher Report[/url]

mredskins 12-13-2014 10:44 AM

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[quote=Schneed10;1099256]Well I'm just going off recent actions. He tried to get Shanahan to resign so he wouldn't have to pay his salary this year, and they decided to keep Haslett and some other coaches on the staff. You telling me those decisions weren't at least in part fiscally motivated?[/quote]

I think his pride had more to do with it then his money. He wanted MS to feel some pain as well.

HailGreen28 12-13-2014 11:43 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;1099137]Trying to find out more, have heard though that Allen's on really thin ice. Basically it's just Snyder keeping him employed. Ultimately it's his call, but the other owners are applying pressure. They've gotten others fired before[/quote]Wouldnt the other owners love Allen to stay? So the Washington team keeps sucking?

donofriose 12-13-2014 12:18 PM

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[quote=HailGreen28;1099261]Wouldnt the other owners love Allen to stay? So the Washington team keeps sucking?[/quote]

Owners of the Redskins... Snyder is a majority owner. I think the Fedex guy is one of the other owners as well.

Rotten1980 12-13-2014 12:54 PM

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[quote=skinsfanthru&thru;1099258]Don't know if this has been posted on here but it doesn't sound like we'd be on the hook for a whole lot if he finds another gig, even as a coordinator.

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2294231-insider-buzz-contract-could-entice-redskins-to-fire-gruden-instead-of-cut-rg3]Insider Buzz: Contract Could Entice Redskins to Fire Gruden Instead of Cut RG3 | Bleacher Report[/url][/quote]

This is the best Redskins news for several weeks.

skinsfan69 12-13-2014 05:30 PM

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[quote=donofriose;1099262]Owners of the Redskins... Snyder is a majority owner. I think the Fedex guy is one of the other owners as well.[/quote]

Fred Smith of Fed Ex is no longer a minority owner. I believe the others are Dwight Scharr and a guy named Rothman. Michelle Snyder may be one as well.

donofriose 12-13-2014 06:03 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1099268]Fred Smith of Fed Ex is no longer a minority owner. I believe the others are Dwight Scharr and a guy named Rothman. Michelle Snyder may be one as well.[/quote]

I thought I had heard something about ownership changing.

Snyder still basically owns the team.

SmootSmack 12-13-2014 06:45 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1099268]Fred Smith of Fed Ex is no longer a minority owner. I believe the others are Dwight Scharr and a guy named Rothman. Michelle Snyder may be one as well.[/quote]

Since when is he no longer a minority owner?

Schneed10 12-13-2014 08:34 PM

Re: RG3 and Gruden?
 
[quote=skinsfanthru&thru;1099258]Don't know if this has been posted on here but it doesn't sound like we'd be on the hook for a whole lot if he finds another gig, even as a coordinator.

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2294231-insider-buzz-contract-could-entice-redskins-to-fire-gruden-instead-of-cut-rg3]Insider Buzz: Contract Could Entice Redskins to Fire Gruden Instead of Cut RG3 | Bleacher Report[/url][/quote]

Well this definitely changes things in my mind.

skinsfan69 12-13-2014 08:55 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;1099270]Since when is he no longer a minority owner?[/quote]

I believe Fred Smith left a while ago. I could be wrong.

Rotten1980 12-13-2014 09:44 PM

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The right leader can change attitudes in a couple weeks, culture in a couple months and the whole team in a couple years. Gotta find that guy.

SmootSmack 12-13-2014 10:33 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;1099272]Well this definitely changes things in my mind.[/quote]

If this is correct, Cole is literally the only one that has this. I've talked to about - half dozen local beat reporters and columnists and some national guys, and everyone says this is incorrect

SmootSmack 12-13-2014 10:36 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1099274]I believe Fred Smith left a while ago. I could be wrong.[/quote]

Maybe you're thinking of when he was considering a bid to buy the Jaguars. Still with the Skins though

KI Skins Fan 12-14-2014 09:00 AM

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I think trading or cutting RGIII could be a disaster for this franchise. Robert is only 24 years old and, in the past, he has been able to recover fully from major injuries. He is clearly a very intelligent young man and he works hard. Now, he has been humbled and he knows that he a lot to learn about playing QB in the NFL.

You have a young man who could come back next year fully restored to health with all of the physical gifts with which he entered the NFL. If he is motivated to get better over the off-season (and he'd better be), he could come back with a much better understanding of the offense in which he is playing and improved mechanics. This is a player you want on your team.

Reluctantly, I have to admit that for RGIII to have a chance to become a very good QB for the Skins in the near future, the Skins need to retain Jay Gruden and let Robert develop in the same offense for the next few years.

I think Bruce Allen should make it crystal clear to both Jay and Robert that, like it or not, they will both be here next season, that it is still Jay's job to develop Robert, and it is still Robert's job to learn everything he possibly can about [U]this[/U] offense and how to be a pocket passer. Robert should also be told that it is his responsibility to [U]earn[/U] his way back on the field and that he is expected to do whatever it takes to make that happen by the opening game of 2015.

punch it in 12-14-2014 10:06 AM

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So how many weeks do you give Griff next year if he still looks like a lost puppy on the field?


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