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[QUOTE=53Fan;1169259]This is the kind of player I'm really not sure about. They want to be the best NFL player he can be. Shouldn't you have that same attitude in college or even high school? I had that attitude on Saturdays in the Church yard or the elementary school grounds when me and the boys played. I just wanted to knock the hell out of somebody and win. If you love what you're doing, that's what you do. He has so much talent maybe he can take some plays off. But I'm not looking for someone to take plays off. If we draft him I just hope he gives it his all every down.[/QUOTE]



Do you think the injury coupled with risking millions might have had something to do with it? I mean maybe he is a lazy piece of shit, i dont know.

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[quote=punch it in;1169260]Do you think the injury coupled with risking millions might have had something to do with it? I mean maybe he is a lazy piece of shit, i dont know.[/quote]

That makes it even harder to figure out Punch. Was there a drop off in performance after the injury? Were the same things being said about him before the injury? I have no idea.

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[QUOTE=53Fan;1169265]That makes it even harder to figure out Punch. Was there a drop off in performance after the injury? Were the same things being said about him before the injury? I have no idea.[/QUOTE]



Yes there was a definite drop off after the injury but maybe he has the lazy trait too? That is why people get paid a shit ton of money to make these decisions. Lol. I know if this guy comes close to living up to his full potential that getting him at 17 is highway robbery. Could be the perfect marriage of need and bpa. All this lazy talk could be a blessing in disguise alot like Warren Sapp smoking a blunt was for the Bucs.

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[quote=punch it in;1169267]Yes there was a definite drop off after the injury but maybe he has the lazy trait too? That is why people get paid a shit ton of money to make these decisions. Lol. I know if this guy comes close to living up to his full potential that getting him at 17 is highway robbery. Could be the perfect marriage of need and bpa. All this lazy talk could be a blessing in disguise alot like Warren Sapp smoking a blunt was for the Bucs.[/quote]

Well I did find this.

[url]https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/03/31/malik-mcdowell-nfl-draft-scouting-report[/url]

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[QUOTE=53Fan;1169268]Well I did find this.



[url]https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/03/31/malik-mcdowell-nfl-draft-scouting-report[/url][/QUOTE]



I saw that. For the record he suffered the injury midway thru, and still played. Anyway based on that article Id take him

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[quote=punch it in;1169269]I saw that. For the record he suffered the injury midway thru, and still played. Anyway based on that article Id take him[/quote]

He could be a great player though from the article he admitted he couldn't do things the way coaches wanted him to. I'm not sure how much that matters if he works hard and tries and according to him he did. All I know is he has unlimited potential and we need someone that could be what he can be. If he will or not idk. I thought the guys in the locker room could get Preston to step up who also has great potential. But I was very disappointed last year. Whether it's him or the way he was being used I don't know. We've had some of the worst DC's in the league.

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I did a lot of trading back. This draft is stacked and we can use a lot of help. I know this isn't at all realistic, but damn it would be nice.

Your score is: 15593 (GRADE: A+)

Your Picks:
Round 2 Pick 19 (DEN): Patrick Mahomes II, QB, Texas Tech (A+)
Round 2 Pick 21 (DET): Duke Riley, OLB, LSU (A)
Round 2 Pick 22 (MIA): Marcus Sanders-Williams, FS, Utah (A-)
Round 3 Pick 6 (NYJ): Dalvin Tomlinson, DT, Alabama (A-)
Round 3 Pick 9 (CINN): Dan Feeney, OG, Indiana (A+)
Round 3 Pick 17: Tyler Orlosky, C, West Virginia (A-)
Round 3 Pick 18 (DEN): Jourdan Lewis, CB, Michigan (A-)
Round 3 Pick 21 (DET): Jake Butt, TE, Michigan (A+)
Round 3 Pick 24 (OAK): David Sharpe, OT, Florida (B+)
Round 3 Pick 43 (NYJ): JuJu Smith-Schuster, WR, Southern California (A+)
Round 4 Pick 7: Malachi Dupre, WR, LSU (A)
Round 4 Pick 17: Connor Harris, ILB, Lindenwood (B+)
Round 4 Pick 20 (DEN): Samaje Perine, RB, Oklahoma (A-)
Round 4 Pick 23 (OAK): Wayne Gallman, RB, Clemson (A-)
Round 5 Pick 10: Dawuane Smoot, DE/OLB, Illinois (B+)
Round 6 Pick 17: Ben Gedeon, ILB, Michigan (B+)
Round 6 Pick 25: Stevie Tu'ikolovatu, DT, Southern California (A-)
Round 7 Pick 2: Channing Stribling, CB, Michigan (B)
Round 7 Pick 17: Zane Gonzalez, K, Arizona State (A+)

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1169373]I did a lot of trading back. This draft is stacked and we can use a lot of help. I know this isn't at all realistic, but damn it would be nice.

Your score is: 15593 (GRADE: A+)

Your Picks:
Round 2 Pick 19 (DEN): Patrick Mahomes II, QB, Texas Tech (A+)
Round 2 Pick 21 (DET): Duke Riley, OLB, LSU (A)
Round 2 Pick 22 (MIA): Marcus Sanders-Williams, FS, Utah (A-)
Round 3 Pick 6 (NYJ): Dalvin Tomlinson, DT, Alabama (A-)
Round 3 Pick 9 (CINN): Dan Feeney, OG, Indiana (A+)
Round 3 Pick 17: Tyler Orlosky, C, West Virginia (A-)
Round 3 Pick 18 (DEN): Jourdan Lewis, CB, Michigan (A-)
Round 3 Pick 21 (DET): Jake Butt, TE, Michigan (A+)
Round 3 Pick 24 (OAK): David Sharpe, OT, Florida (B+)
Round 3 Pick 43 (NYJ): JuJu Smith-Schuster, WR, Southern California (A+)
Round 4 Pick 7: Malachi Dupre, WR, LSU (A)
Round 4 Pick 17: Connor Harris, ILB, Lindenwood (B+)
Round 4 Pick 20 (DEN): Samaje Perine, RB, Oklahoma (A-)
Round 4 Pick 23 (OAK): Wayne Gallman, RB, Clemson (A-)
Round 5 Pick 10: Dawuane Smoot, DE/OLB, Illinois (B+)
Round 6 Pick 17: Ben Gedeon, ILB, Michigan (B+)
Round 6 Pick 25: Stevie Tu'ikolovatu, DT, Southern California (A-)
Round 7 Pick 2: Channing Stribling, CB, Michigan (B)
Round 7 Pick 17: Zane Gonzalez, K, Arizona State (A+)[/quote]

So having nearly a quarter of the picks in the 3rd round isn't realistic? You sure about that?

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no trades. is quincy wilson really slipping that far on boards?

Your score is: 13389 (GRADE: A-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 17: Jamal Adams, SS, LSU (A+)
Round 2 Pick 17: Raekwon McMillan, ILB/OLB, Ohio State (A)
Round 3 Pick 17: Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida (A+)
Round 4 Pick 7: Daeshon Hall, DE, Texas A&M (A-)
Round 4 Pick 17: Malachi Dupre, WR, LSU (A+)
Round 5 Pick 10: Conor McDermott, OT, UCLA (B+)
Round 6 Pick 17: Zane Gonzalez, K, Arizona State (A)
Round 6 Pick 25: Stevie Tu'ikolovatu, DT, Southern California (A-)
Round 7 Pick 2: Chad Kelly, QB, Ole Miss (B-)
Round 7 Pick 17: Joe Williams, RB, Utah (B-)

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2 more private workouts with these guys:
another safety:
[url=http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/tedric-thompson?id=2557881]Tedric Thompson Draft Profile – NFL.com[/url]

A under the radar Guard:
[url=http://www.gousfbulls.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=205371847]Kofi Amichia Bio - GoUSFBulls.com—Official Athletics Web Site of the University of South Florida[/url]

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[quote=Chico23231;1169380]2 more private workouts with these guys:
another safety:
[url=http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/tedric-thompson?id=2557881]Tedric Thompson Draft Profile – NFL.com[/url]

A under the radar Guard:
[url=http://www.gousfbulls.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=205371847]Kofi Amichia Bio - GoUSFBulls.com—Official Athletics Web Site of the University of South Florida[/url][/quote]

Kofi is a heck of an athlete

[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=121855&draftyear=2017&genpos=OG]Kofi Amichia*|*South Florida,*OG*:*2017 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/url]

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I cant remember us bringing in and scouting so many safety prospects. Kinda feel like "finally"...

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OLB Tyus Bowser visiting too

[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=126701&draftyear=2017&genpos=OLB]Tyus Bowser*|*Houston,*OLB*:*2017 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/url]

And S Josh Jones..... another reason to trade back and add early picks

[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=123766&draftyear=2017&genpos=SS]*Josh Jones | North Carolina State, SS : 2017 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/url]

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Final thoughts on 17, if we are truely taking the best prospect here is my hope:

1. Jonathan Allen
2. Ruben Foster
3. McCaffery/Cook

I think all have a reasonable belief they could be there. If all are gone, I think we should trade back

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[quote=Chico23231;1169389]Final thoughts on 17, if we are truely taking the best prospect here is my hope:

1. Jonathan Allen
2. Ruben Foster
3. McCaffery/Cook

I think all have a reasonable belief they could be there. If all are gone, I think we should trade back[/quote]

I have some doubts about these players, Chico.

I'd take Allen in a heartbeat but I think you're hope that he'll be available at #17 is not realistic. He's a Top Five prospect all day long. Being picked in the Top 10 is worst case for him.

Reuben Foster has the most entertaining highlight tapes going. I love the way he plays football. But he's coming off of rotator cuff surgery and I'm concerned that with his smallish size and the violent way he plays that other injuries may be expected. That's why I would draft Haason Reddick ahead of him.

McCaffery could be a near-perfect fit for our offense, if used properly. He's also terrific on ST. I have no problem with him at #17 but he plays offense rather than defense and he's not a bell-cow RB.

Cook has a fumbling problem and he's a POS woman beater. I don't want him, period.

There are other players I'd draft at #17: Haason Reddick, Malik McDowell, Chris Wormley, Tre'Davious White, Jabril Peppers and a few others who would need to fall in the draft.