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[quote=dmek25;978871]from reading various posts, seem to me the same people that want their 2nd amendment rights protected, are the same people that hate unions. but IMO the NRA is nothing but a big union, wanting larger numbers, and protecting their rights[/quote]Wanting larger members and protecting their rights is any voting block or national organization. When it's required that every gun owner be an NRA member, and the NRA starts using it's dues AGAINST a significant percentage of its members wishes, and giving its members perks like say outrageous retirement plans just for being gun owners, then MAYBE you can make that comparison. Otherwise it just looks like an inept attempt to say everybody's as bad as the worst unions.

Angry Mom's......

STFU and make a sammich, you uninformed bitch!

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Saw this on Reddit, made me laugh... Totally unrealistic. Jamaal Brown is actually on the field.

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/haigt.png[/IMG]

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[quote=Giantone;978865][URL="http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/12/21/nra-gun-control-newton-shooting/1784457/"]Gun-control advocates blast NRA statement[/URL]


Gun-control advocates reacted with incredulity at the statements by Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the National Rifle Association, at his Friday press conference. LaPierre called for armed guards in every school in the nation and blamed violent media, video games, films and music videos, not guns, for violence in society.
"It was absolutely outrageous,' said Shannon Watts, who founded One Million Moms for Gun Control just five days ago. "They are about to see a tsunami of 84 million angry moms coming out at them. Angry moms like they have never seen before. We are going to do for gun control what Mothers Against Drunk Driving did for drunk drivers."
The Zionsville, Ind. stay-at-home mother of five was so angry and frustrated after the Newtown shootings that she started a Facebook page and website. Her group now has 8,000 members and 50 chapters. "Every day we get a request for 20 new chapters," she said.
Congress has been running scared of the NRA, "but the NRA only has 4 million members, she said. "Ask them in four weeks who they're more scared of, the NRA or a mom? It's going to be the mom."
"We're seeing ridiculous laws that are written to allow guns in our churches and our schools. It's time for the 84 million mothers in American to say enough," she said. She doesn't want to ban guns. "We understand about the Second Amendment, but it was written in 1791, before AK47s." America needs common sense, she said. "I can't buy an unlimited amount of fertilizer or Sudafed, but I can buy unlimited ammunition. Really?"


[B]......it's the NRA's "gun culture" campaign to sell guns.I'm sure Mrs Lanza knew what she was doing with guns just like the pro guns posters here do,or at least thought she did,even after she gave her son enough money to cover himself in Kevlar from head to toe,yup she knew becuase she did what the NRA told her to,right up till her son killed her.[/B][/quote]

[B]You have no clue what your talking about. If she followed the NRA's safty guides her son would not have had access to them.[/B]

[url=http://www.gac.20m.com/guide.htm]Guide To Firearm Safety[/url]

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Any of the anti-gun posters want to explain how more draconian rules would have helped in this case?

[URL="http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-ny-firefighter-killer-20121225,0,5162396.story"]Felon with a gun[/URL]

[I]Before ex-con William Spengler, 62, opened fire on firefighters who had responded to a blaze at his home in Webster, N.Y., on Christmas Eve, killing two and seriously wounding two others, he'd typed a couple pages announcing his plans, police said.[/I]
[I]"I still have to get ready to see how much of the neighborhood I can burn down and do what I do best: killing people," Spengler wrote, police said Tuesday.[/I]

If an off-duty cop hadn't been in the area with his firearm things would have been far worse.

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[quote=RedskinRat;980121]Any of the anti-gun posters want to explain how more draconian rules would have helped in this case?

[URL="http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-ny-firefighter-killer-20121225,0,5162396.story"]Felon with a gun[/URL]

[I]Before ex-con William Spengler, 62, opened fire on firefighters who had responded to a blaze at his home in Webster, N.Y., on Christmas Eve, killing two and seriously wounding two others, he'd typed a couple pages announcing his plans, police said.[/I]
[I]"I still have to get ready to see how much of the neighborhood I can burn down and do what I do best: killing people," Spengler wrote, police said Tuesday.[/I]

If an off-duty cop hadn't been in the area with his firearm things would have been far worse.[/quote]

Don't you know if they pass a ban on AR these things will no longer happen. Didn't the Brady Bill ban these guns and if there are any numbers to prove it worked would the anti gun people be touting these numbers? I've looked and cannot find anything.

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[quote=firstdown;980128]Don't you know if they pass a ban on AR these things will no longer happen. Didn't the Brady Bill ban these guns and if there are any numbers to prove it worked would the anti gun people be touting these numbers? I've looked and cannot find anything.[/quote]

We already have enough laws on the books. We need a better societal responsibility movement and correct enforcement of the current laws.

Anti-gunners all still hiding under their beds today, I'd guess?

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This is just too funny. On Meet The Depressed Sunday the guy held up a 30 round clip which is illegal in DC and he is underinvestigation.

[url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/50297849]Police investigate NBC News anchor for displaying gun clip on air - US news | NBC News[/url]

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[quote=firstdown;980164]This is just too funny. On [B]Meet The Depressed [/B]Sunday the guy held up a 30 round clip which is illegal in DC and he is underinvestigation.

[url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/50297849]Police investigate NBC News anchor for displaying gun clip on air - US news | NBC News[/url][/quote]

Awesome

[QUOTE=firstdown;980164]This is just too funny. On Meet The Depressed Sunday the guy held up a 30 round clip which is illegal in DC and he is underinvestigation.

[url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/50297849]Police investigate NBC News anchor for displaying gun clip on air - US news | NBC News[/url][/QUOTE]

Thats the kind of thing that makes me embarrassed to be from this planet!!
Jeez

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[quote=RedskinRat;979112]Angry Mom's......

STFU and make a sammich, you uninformed bitch![/quote]
Again the ignorant gun culture in this country showing it's true colors.

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[url=http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/12/newspaper-publishes-gun-owners-names-and-addresses/]Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses - ABC News[/url]

In a statement to ABC News, The Journal News said its readers “are understandably interested to know about guns in their neighborhoods,” because of the conversation about gun control on its website after the shooting in Newtown, Conn., last week.
“We obtained the names and addresses of Westchester and Rockland residents who are licensed to own handguns through routine Freedom of Information law requests. We also requested information on the number and types of guns owned by permit holders, but officials in the county clerks offices in Westchester, Rockland and Putnam counties maintained that those specifics were not public record,” the statement read.
“New York’s top public-records expert, Robert Freeman, disagrees,” it added.
The paper declined to answer further questions about the map.



I would be beneficial for Gun owners to help rather then fight against new gun laws.

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[quote=Giantone;980289][url=http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/12/newspaper-publishes-gun-owners-names-and-addresses/]Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses - ABC News[/url]

In a statement to ABC News, The Journal News said its readers “are understandably interested to know about guns in their neighborhoods,” because of the conversation about gun control on its website after the shooting in Newtown, Conn., last week.
“We obtained the names and addresses of Westchester and Rockland residents who are licensed to own handguns through routine Freedom of Information law requests. We also requested information on the number and types of guns owned by permit holders, but officials in the county clerks offices in Westchester, Rockland and Putnam counties maintained that those specifics were not public record,” the statement read.
“New York’s top public-records expert, Robert Freeman, disagrees,” it added.
The paper declined to answer further questions about the map.



I would be beneficial for Gun owners to help rather then fight against new gun laws.[/quote]How is what the newspaper did "beneficial" in any way, shape, or form? Would it be equally "helpful" to post a list of homeowners that own no weapon of any kind?

This kind of stupidity on the newspaper's part, is exactly why people shouldn't rely on anti-gun people for any kind of solution to gun violence. What is the paper trying to accomplish here?

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[quote=Giantone;980288]Again the ignorant gun culture in this country showing it's true colors.[/quote]

If that's the best you've got.

:laughing-

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[quote=HailGreen28;980313]How is what the newspaper did "beneficial" in any way, shape, or form? Would it be equally "helpful" to post a list of homeowners that own no weapon of any kind?

This kind of stupidity on the newspaper's part, is exactly why people shouldn't rely on anti-gun people for any kind of solution to gun violence. What is the paper trying to accomplish here?[/quote]

All they are trying to do is bully people in a similar way to the Out program by gay groups in the 80's.

Great. Now criminals know who doesn't have a firearm.