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Earthquake we usually agree on players, check out DJ Swearinger tell me what you think.

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Oh I thought you meant something else than youtube. Thanks for the links though

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I think Johnathan Cyprien one of the most physically gifted S in this draft. His range is astounding and he plays full speed every down. He has power that he uses very well with shedding blocks and driving through the ball carrier. I see Brian Dawkins/Gholston. I believe he can start day 1 too. Him and DJ Swearinger in the same backfield would be a dream. Both can cover, both flies around, both are playmakers, and both drops the boom on WRs. If we can get a CB in FA and maybe RT those 2 would be 2 of the top 3 of our picks.

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[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;991096]Earthquake we usually agree on players, check out DJ Swearinger tell me what you think.[/quote]

I have watched Mr. Swearinger since he first got to South Carolina. I like him, he is a very rangy FS who plays physical, good tackler,excellent hitter, above average ball skills, but he can be reckless and sometimes gets lost in coverage but I would like him as well.


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[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;991096]Earthquake we usually agree on players, check out DJ Swearinger tell me what you think.[/quote]

He is a faster safety as well, which I love.

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[quote=GridIron26;991099]Oh I thought you meant something else than youtube. Thanks for the links though[/quote]

I have a few Nevada games on my DVR, I can analyze him if you would like.

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[quote=GWinSkins83;991120]I think Johnathan Cyprien one of the most physically gifted S in this draft. His range is astounding and he plays full speed every down. He has power that he uses very well with shedding blocks and driving through the ball carrier. I see Brian Dawkins/Gholston. I believe he can start day 1 too. Him and DJ Swearinger in the same backfield would be a dream. Both can cover, both flies around, both are playmakers, and both drops the boom on WRs. [B]If we can get a CB in FA and maybe RT those 2 would be 2 of the top 3 of our picks[/B][B].[/B][/quote]

I'm a believer that building a team requires FA, the draft, and a few smart trades. But this season I think it's all about the draft for the Skins. That's because there is a very thin crop of FA's, IMO, we don't have the draft picks to make trades (there are few player-for-player trades in the NFL these days), and (this is the good news) this year's draft is deep in the positions where we have the greatest perceived needs.

This draft looks to be deep at safety and CB and deep enough for our purposes at OT.

At safety there are numerous players who could help us soon: Kenny Vaccaro, TJ McDonald, Phillip Thomas, Duke Williams, Rambo Bacarri, DJ Swearinger, David Amerson and more. We'll get a good safety in this draft, maybe even two good safeties. Who wouldn't want a guy named Duke or a guy named Rambo at safety?

There are also a number of good prospects at CB: Desmond Trufant, Jordan Poyer, Robert Alford, Jonathan Cyprien, and others. We have a chance of getting a good CB, as well.

At OT, there are some decent prospects who we might be able to draft after Eric Fisher and Lane Johnson are gone: Xavier Nixon, Oday Aboushi, David Quessenberry, Kyle Long, and possibly others.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;991123]I have a few Nevada games on my DVR, I can analyze him if you would like.[/quote]

Oh no that's fine, I was curious to see if you had something else than youtube that I could use. Thanks though

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;991126]I'm a believer that building a team requires FA, the draft, and a few smart trades. But this season I think it's all about the draft for the Skins. That's because there is a very thin crop of FA's, IMO, we don't have the draft picks to make trades (there are few player-for-player trades in the NFL these days), and (this is the good news) this year's draft is deep in the positions where we have the greatest perceived needs.

This draft looks to be deep at safety and CB and deep enough for our purposes at OT.

At safety there are numerous players who could help us soon: Kenny Vaccaro, TJ McDonald, Phillip Thomas, Duke Williams, Rambo Bacarri, DJ Swearinger, David Amerson and more. We'll get a good safety in this draft, maybe even two good safeties. Who wouldn't want a guy named Duke or a guy named Rambo at safety?

There are also a number of good prospects at CB: Desmond Trufant, Jordan Poyer, Robert Alford, Jonathan Cyprien, and others. We have a chance of getting a good CB, as well.

At OT, there are some decent prospects who we might be able to draft after Eric Fisher and Lane Johnson are gone: Xavier Nixon, Oday Aboushi, David Quessenberry, Kyle Long, and possibly others.[/quote]
I think people get this cap penalty think to far. We will be able to make moves in FA. Reconstructing and cutting players can get us 2 upgrade starters in FA. Which ones I don't know. I have faith Bruce can work out ways to get 2 good players here. Especially when this FA is so deep of defensive backs. We could get a Derek Cox, Sean Smith, or Kenaan Lewis CB and Kenny Phillips, Mundy, or Patrick Chung S. Those are upgrades I can see Bruce getting.

My 2 cents on the SAF class
 

Reid-FS-(reminds me of LaRon Landry but more fluid movement)
McDonald-FS-(good height, solid tackler, good range, a little stiff)
Swearinger-FS/SS-(solid all around S that played CB/SS/FS solid player)
Elam-SS/FS-(good movement, aggression, good tackler, smallish)
Phillip Thomas-(Fresno)-SS/FS (good size/speed, good production, fluid movement, question his angles/tackling)
Vaccaro-SS/FS-(great size/speed, question his angles/tackling)
Rashard Hall-FS (solid FS, good movement, did well at Shrine game, 40 time is gonna be big for him)
Duke Williams-FS (tough small school prospect with CB speed)
Tony Jefferson FS (good all around FS/NB reminds of a less physical Elam, also smallish)
Jonathan Crypein SS (physical S, reminds me of a young Meriweather)
Rambo-FS (discipline? I really like the kid but he scares me as a week 1 FS maybe he starts off at SS and as he learns the game transitions to Free)
Zeke Motta-FS/SS-(good size/speed not many cut-ups, did well at Shrine game)
JJ Wilcox- (only 1 year as S converted WR)
Robert Lester FS/SS-(steady if unspectacular FS from a pro-style program, not very aggresive/explosive on film)
Cody Davis-FS-(love this kid on film, good movement, in position,looks smallish though)
Shamarko Thomas-SS/FS (great speed 4.4 or below,really like this kid but he's short 5'9, played more like a CB then SAF)
Shawn Williams-SS-(good tackler, steady)


My rankings aren't based on where I think they'll go but on my view of their skillset with a focus on playing FS over SS

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[quote=GWinSkins83;991150]I think people get this cap penalty think to far. We will be able to make moves in FA. Reconstructing and cutting players can get us 2 upgrade starters in FA. Which ones I don't know. I have faith Bruce can work out ways to get 2 good players here. Especially when this FA is so deep of defensive backs. We could get a Derek Cox, Sean Smith, or Kenaan Lewis CB and Kenny Phillips, Mundy, or Patrick Chung S. Those are upgrades I can see Bruce getting.[/quote]

My point is that I don't see any reason to pay more money for pedestrian FA players when we can draft players who will cost less and might develop into outstanding players. In view of the probability that we'll get back Brandon Meriweather and Tanard Jackson, none of the players you listed impresses me enough to want to see the Skins use up salary cap dollars on one of them.

I think the list of safety prospects, with comments, that 30Gut provided reinforces my belief that we should be able to draft one or two solid players at that position. I have confidence that the Skins front office will do a great job of identifying the right ones.

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Senior bowl is on right now for those who didn't know.

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2nd Round- FS Phillip Thomas Fresno State
3rd Round-CB David Amerson North Carolina State
4th Round-CB Tyrann Mathieu LSU
5th Round-SS Duke Williams Nevada
5th Round (Patriots) - Dion Simms TE Michigan State
6th Round- Denard Robinson WR Michigan
7th Round- Vince Williams ILB Florida State

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[quote=diehardskin2982;991162]2nd Round- FS Phillip Thomas Fresno State
3rd Round-CB David Amerson North Carolina State
4th Round-CB Tyrann Mathieu LSU
5th Round-SS Duke Williams Nevada
5th Round (Patriots) - Dion Simms TE Michigan State
6th Round- Denard Robinson WR Michigan
7th Round- Vince Williams ILB Florida State[/quote]

Would love that, but would prefer Travis Kelce over Don Simmons

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[quote=diehardskin2982;991162]2nd Round- FS Phillip Thomas Fresno State
3rd Round-CB David Amerson North Carolina State
4th Round-CB Tyrann Mathieu LSU
5th Round-SS Duke Williams Nevada
5th Round (Patriots) - Dion Simms TE Michigan State
6th Round- Denard Robinson WR Michigan
7th Round- Vince Williams ILB Florida State[/quote]

I like it but would like DJ Sweringer S over Duke and Thomas and CB Trufant over Amerson.