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[quote=DynamiteRave;1053661]Do we put threads in thread hell anymore? When this one gets locked, I wanna nominate it.[/quote]

This is gonna get locked soon. I just want to shatter a few more perceptions

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1053661]Do we put threads in thread hell anymore? When this one gets locked, I wanna nominate it.[/quote]

For real. Forget who's gonna coach the team, we need Dr. Phil up in this bitch!

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[quote=The Goat;1053658]Enough to call a cab ;)[/quote]

Touche. Still find it ridiculous you think that makes him unqualified

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I apologize if SF felt like that was an attack, but drinking in driving is not a joke. Regarding gruden, he and wisenhut are my personal favorites at this point. I just feel like his DUI should be considered when evaluating his candidacy.

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Honestly the more I think about it, the more I would prefer a offensive minded coach. Has there been any rumblings about someone like Pep Hamilton coming in to mentor Rg3?

Edit: Why am I always surprised when I look in a thread and it's never about what the title would indicate?

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[quote=SmootSmack;1053665]Touche. Still find it ridiculous you think that makes him unqualified[/quote]

A matter of principle. Same applies to Harbaugh, and I think the situation with Aldon Smith makes it clearer. Smith gets a DUI and Harbough can't really say anything other than it made him a better person when he did it. And I'm not kidding when I say Jay looks like a hard drinker. Kept wondering why his face is so puffy when he's not a fat guy. Coming from a fam of hard alcoholics that face is unmistakable.

But I don't think Gruden is a good candidate regardless. Several reasons. Still nothing on offense that's impressive (aside from an improvement over the Shanahans). No HC experience in the NFL, especially in a major market. It looks like a "fixed" hire with the Jay to Jon to Bruce connection.

Whisenhunt and Caldwell are better on the offensive side. Williams and Zimmer on the defensive side.

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[quote=The Goat;1053669]A matter of principle. Same applies to Harbaugh, and I think the situation with Aldon Smith makes it clearer. Smith gets a DUI and Harbough can't really say anything other than it made him a better person when he did it. And I'm not kidding when I say Jay looks like a hard drinker. Kept wondering why his face is so puffy when he's not a fat guy. Coming from a fam of hard alcoholics that face is unmistakable.

But I don't think Gruden is a good candidate regardless. Several reasons. Still nothing on offense that's impressive (aside from an improvement over the Shanahans). No HC experience in the NFL, especially in a major market. It looks like a "fixed" hire with the Jay to Jon to Bruce connection.

Whisenhunt and Caldwell are better on the offensive side. Williams and Zimmer on the defensive side.[/quote]

But you'd want Jon Gruden?

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[quote=SmootSmack;1053671]But you'd want Jon Gruden?[/quote]

I don't think his example with a DUI is any better but I wondered if he's part of a fallback plan, asked earlier?

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[quote=The Goat;1053673]I don't think his example with a DUI is any better but I wondered if he's part of a fallback plan, asked earlier?[/quote]

He's not. So let me get this straight. You don't like Jay because he hasn't been an HC in a major market and he was arrested once for drunk driving, but you're hoping hiring him must mean a more direct path to Jon, who was also once arrested?

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[quote=SmootSmack;1053674]He's not. So let me get this straight. You don't like Jay because he hasn't been an HC in a major market and he was arrested once for drunk driving, but you're hoping hiring him must mean a more direct path to Jon, who was also once arrested?[/quote]

I'm saying if the choice was limited to Grudens, I'd prefer Jon over Jay. Honestly I'd forgot Jon also had the DUI. If I remember right now it was one of the years Denver won a SB, something in an article I'd read mentioned both things.

But no, I dot want anyone named Gruden here. My paradigm based on what's available is:

Whisenhunt HC and whoever he picks for OC. GWilliams as DC and asst head coach. But I have no idea if Whisenhint would go for it.

Next option, replace Whisenhunt with Caldwell. Next, Williams HC. Last, Zimmer HC. I think every one of those guys has earned it far and above Jay Gruden, both on paper and on the field, leaving the potential for alcoholism aside.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/05/jay-gruden-mike-zimmer-are-now-free-to-interview/]Jay Gruden, Mike Zimmer are now free to interview | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Article and comments say a ton. I like Zimmer. A lot. The only reason Gruden is getting more attention is the name. Haven't we seen enough of the nepotism curse already? I hope through the interview process BA and/or Dan see Gruden is a bad choice.

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[url=http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/1911951-jay-gruden-bengals-gameplan-deserves-blame-for-cincinnatis-early-playoff-exit]Jay Gruden, Bengals Game Plan Deserve Blame for Cincinnati's Early Playoff Exit | Bleacher Report[/url]

Giving up on the running game and losing the lead in the 2nd half...sounds all too familiar.

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I think Zimmer and Jay Gruden would both make fine coaches. My bigger concern is the staffs they would put together

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[quote=SmootSmack;1053684]I think Zimmer and Jay Gruden would both make fine coaches. My bigger concern is the staffs they would put together[/quote]

I have wanted Zimmer dating back to our last coaching search. Do you think coaching under Marvin Lewis who is a defense oriented guy holds him back at all?

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[quote=cdskins26;1053697]I have wanted Zimmer dating back to our last coaching search. Do you think coaching under Marvin Lewis who is a defense oriented guy holds him back at all?[/quote]

I don't know. I think Lewis lets Zimmer do his thing, as opposed to Carolina where most believe Rivera has his hands all over the defense so you wonder how much McDermott really contributes