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punch it in 01-12-2016 09:52 PM

Re: Cousins has arrived
 
[QUOTE=MTK;1137427]If you give KC big money, he's not going to be looking over his shoulder with a late round or undrafted QB. They stuck by him all this year, why would that change?

Come on now.

And if you have McCoy, you don't need Hasslebeck.[/QUOTE]


Something like the Eagles with three vets, except ours are better. Alot of teams have three vets with one being the younger one on the rise.

MTK 01-12-2016 09:53 PM

Re: Cousins has arrived
 
Seems like a waste to me, usual setup is a 3rd stringer is inactive. You don't need a vet for that.

punch it in 01-12-2016 10:06 PM

Re: Cousins has arrived
 
[QUOTE=MTK;1137433]Seems like a waste to me, usual setup is a 3rd stringer is inactive. You don't need a vet for that.[/QUOTE]


100% imo whoever the rogue third string body is he would be inactive. I mean u cannot gameplan on losing two qb's in the same game. I just think the bigger waste would be a pick when we need to win now and win thru the draft. I think i just have so much faith in SM that I think he can pluck 7 contributors out of one draft. Lol. Hey like i said if there is some qb sitting there at any spot and it is absolutely shocking he is still there than snatch him up. Im with Snake though I dont want to mess with KC's psyche even though I think it is strong. He just went thru so much with Griff n the pressure of proving himself to the organization. Whatever happens I got faith in this FO and staff though.

MTK 01-12-2016 10:09 PM

Re: Cousins has arrived
 
I wouldn't draft one either. UDFA all the way.

NC_Skins 01-12-2016 10:23 PM

Re: Cousins has arrived
 
[quote=NC_Skins;1137333] If you don't pay Kirk a 4yr/85-90mil contract .[/quote]


Correction on this. I meant to put 5yr/85-90mil. Kirk definitely isn't in a position yet to demand 20+mil a year. I think the contract hits about 17-18mil/yr with us being able to get out after that second year. (if it's structured properly)

Bucket 01-13-2016 12:36 AM

Re: Cousins has arrived
 
[quote=MTK;1137442]I wouldn't draft one either. UDFA all the way.[/quote]

Jake Rudock seems like a good UDFA QB we could stash and develop. I am fully confident in Kirk but you always want to be working for the future.

And it doesn't hurt that his HC is Harbaugh.

Bucket 01-13-2016 12:38 AM

Re: Cousins has arrived
 
[quote=NC_Skins;1137444]Correction on this. I meant to put 5yr/85-90mil. Kirk definitely isn't in a position yet to demand 20+mil a year. I think the contract hits about 17-18mil/yr with us being able to get out after that second year. (if it's structured properly)[/quote]

I dont think he should take any less then the franchise tag. So anything under 19 would be foolish to take if I was his agent.

KI Skins Fan 01-13-2016 08:58 AM

Re: Cousins has arrived
 
[quote=Bucket;1137450]I dont think he should take any less then the franchise tag. So anything under 19 would be foolish to take if I was his agent.[/quote]

I think he might well take less than the tag amount depending on the amount of guaranteed money. Anything could happen in the future, so the guaranteed amount is an important consideration.

The only possible disaster for the Redskins in their negotiations with Kirk and his agent would be for the Skins to be forced to tag him. In that event, the Skins would not be able to manage around the $19.5MM cap hit.

As a fan, I don't really care how much the Redskins pay him as long as it is structured to allow enough cap space to give Scot M. the flexibility he needs to continue building the team. If Kirk cares about winning, and I'm sure he does, he'll cooperate with the Redskins in structuring the deal.

MTK 01-13-2016 10:06 AM

Re: Cousins has arrived
 
The tag isn't a starting off point for negotiations. A long term deal is always the goal for the player. More money, more security.

skinsfan69 01-13-2016 12:43 PM

Re: Cousins has arrived
 
[quote=MTK;1137442]I wouldn't draft one either. UDFA all the way.[/quote]

I kind of agree here. Our draft picks need to be guys that can contribute right away.

punch it in 01-13-2016 03:26 PM

Re: Cousins has arrived
 
[url]http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14555788/looking-players-great-manage-fix-one-great-flaw-nfl[/url]

DYoungJelly 01-13-2016 07:32 PM

Re: Cousins has arrived
 
BPA every pick, every round.

KI Skins Fan 01-14-2016 06:44 AM

Re: Cousins has arrived
 
[quote=DYoungJelly;1137505]BPA every pick, every round.[/quote]

I'm not necessarily a BPA proponent yet, based on where we are right now as a team, that might be the way to go in this draft. Any pressing needs could be addressed in FA prior to the draft.

metalskins 01-14-2016 02:07 PM

Re: Cousins has arrived
 
Man, I tell you, in years past, while our offense was on the field, I'd be watching with clinched butt cheeks and waiting for the first reason to throw out my choice of four letter words. Almost on cue, the QB overthrows a wide open receiver, or throws a pick, the running back fumbles, or a big play is called back because of a holding penalty, or something to kill my buzz.

It's such a welcome change to watch cap'n Kirk play! I haven't had this much confidence in our offense since Mark Rypien's '91 season with the 'skins.

Schneed10 01-18-2016 07:55 AM

Re: Cousins has arrived
 
I'm going to just throw this up against the wall and see if it sticks.

Scenario: let's say negotiations don't go well with Cousins, his agent's demands are outrageous, so McCloughan slaps the franchise tag on him.

Remember, players under the franchise tag can sign offer sheets elsewhere. The Redskins would then have the option to match the offer sheet or let him go and take two first round picks in return.

Let's say he signs that offer sheet. Would you take the picks, or match the deal? Obviously your answer might be 'depends on how much the offer sheet is for'. Feel free to set a limit.

I know what I would do but curious to hear. And for the record I don't think the negotiations ever get to this stage. But for shits and giggles, as they say.


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