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Buffalo Bob 10-01-2019 08:17 PM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
[quote=Buffalo Bob;1232616][URL="https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/stephen-a-smith-says-gruden-has-quit-on-the-redskins-and-will-be-fired-next-week/ar-AAI7NJX?li=BBnb7Kz"]https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/stephen-a-smith-says-gruden-has-quit-on-the-redskins-and-will-be-fired-next-week/ar-AAI7NJX?li=BBnb7Kz[/URL]

Stephen A Smith says Gruden will be fired next week.[/quote]



[quote=5superbowls3wins;1232617]Was just going to share this. Very interesting. Let’s all be honest. Jay Gruden isn’t the root problem here....


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He is a part of the problem.

5superbowls3wins 10-01-2019 08:56 PM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
[QUOTE=Buffalo Bob;1232622]He is a part of the problem.[/QUOTE]



Agreed, but Bruce Allen needs to go too. The entire organization needs to be scrubbed.


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skinsfan69 10-01-2019 10:34 PM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
Gruden is set up to fail but I still don't want him as my coach. We will never be able to run the ball with him as HC.

Warthog 10-03-2019 06:03 AM

How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
BA needs to be fired first and replaced by the scouting Director Kyle Smith.

Gruden fired next and replaced by O’Connell.

Let the NEW GM find a new DC along with O’Connell. Manusky needs to go ASAP. But with the right replacement.

All after the Patriots ass whooping.


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Buffalo Bob 10-03-2019 08:06 AM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
[quote=5superbowls3wins;1232625]Agreed, but Bruce Allen needs to go too. The entire organization needs to be scrubbed.


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I think they should fire everyone all the way down to the people that clean the offices at Redskins Park. Time for a fresh start.

KI Skins Fan 10-03-2019 09:17 AM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
Time for a dose of reality. Take your medicine and stop dreaming.

1. Dan Snyder will never change and he will probably outlive you. If he doesn't outlive you, then his son will inherit the team and he will be a worse owner than his old man.

2. Bruce Allen isn't going anywhere. He is exactly what Snyder wants.

3. Sure, Gruden and Manusky will be fired soon but they won't be replaced by young guns. Tomsula will probably be Interim HC and DC and Callahan will probably be appointed by Allen as the OC. Allen and Snyder have no regard for up and coming young coaches. They have proved that.

4. This clown car that used to be the Redskins under JKK will continue to roll downhill for as long as you live.

skinsfaninok 10-03-2019 09:23 AM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
Jay's kicking a FG from the 3 while down 14-0 was named the dumbest coaching decision of the week per the Athletic....

KI Skins Fan 10-03-2019 09:33 AM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1232759]Jay's kicking a FG from the 3 while down 14-0 was named the dumbest coaching decision of the week per the Athletic....[/quote]

A worthy selection. Gruden could have had the QB take a knee. That would be the only play call that might have been more stupid at that point.

Honestly, it wasn't so much that the call was stupid but the impression that Gruden quit on his team that bothered me the most.

Buffalo Bob 10-03-2019 09:38 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1232759]Jay's kicking a FG from the 3 while down 14-0 was named the dumbest coaching decision of the week per the Athletic....[/quote]

I disagree. Taking the penalty when they had the Giants stopped on 3rd town instead of declining and letting the Giants try a 45 yard field goal on their opening drive. Instead of down 3-0 or tied at 0-0 if they miss, the Giants convert that 3rd and long and end up getting a TD shortly there after.

With the Redskins allowing a ridiculous amount of 3rd and long conversions and the way the Giants were marching down the field no way does a coach with anything larger than a pea brain give them a 2nd chance to keep the drive alive.

skinsfaninok 10-03-2019 09:50 AM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
I really believe Jay came into this season looking to get fired and expecting it, he joked way too much about it in the Pre season. When we go down to NE sunday by 30+ I just don't see anyway Dan keeps him Monday.

Hire Kevin O as the new HC

Redskins247 10-03-2019 09:54 AM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
So when Gruden gets fired, who thinks he will end up telling how screwed up this organization is in regards to Dan and Bruce? We've all seen him hold nothing back when talking about players (ie. RGIII)...but will he do the same when asked about his time as head coach for the Redskins? All the things we speculate about what he does or doesn't have say over with regards to the roster, ast. coaches, draft...does Bruce have total control over him or not? Or will he keep his mouth shut...like Mike Shanahan has pretty much done.

CRedskinsRule 10-03-2019 10:18 AM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
[QUOTE=Redskins247;1232766]So when Gruden gets fired, who thinks he will end up telling how screwed up this organization is in regards to Dan and Bruce? We've all seen him hold nothing back when talking about players (ie. RGIII)...but will he do the same when asked about his time as head coach for the Redskins? All the things we speculate about what he does or doesn't have say over with regards to the roster, ast. coaches, draft...does Bruce have total control over him or not? Or will he keep his mouth shut...like Mike Shanahan has pretty much done.[/QUOTE]If Jay wants to be a coach somewhere else he will keep his thoughts to himself.

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BaltimoreSkins 10-03-2019 10:20 AM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
[quote=Buffalo Bob;1232763]I disagree. Taking the penalty when they had the Giants stopped on 3rd town instead of declining and letting the Giants try a 45 yard field goal on their opening drive. Instead of down 3-0 or tied at 0-0 if they miss, the Giants convert that 3rd and long and end up getting a TD shortly there after.

With the Redskins allowing a ridiculous amount of 3rd and long conversions and the way the Giants were marching down the field no way does a coach with anything larger than a pea brain give then a 2nd chance to keep the drive alive.[/quote]

I think that is a great hindsight reaction but any team would take the penalty push a team out of field goal range. It is hard to fathom how really bad this team is on 3rd down that they could let that happen.

Schneed10 10-03-2019 10:37 AM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
I'd like to see them push Bruce to the side to handle the stadium and put Eric Shaffer in as team president. I think he'd hire the best football guys he can, if that's Kyle Smith for GM then it's Kyle Smith.

Then Shaffer and the GM pick the head coach.

Even better would be to fire Bruce altogether because if the dude is in the building there's still the chance he creeps back into power, but I'm trying to be realistic here.

Buffalo Bob 10-03-2019 10:38 AM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
[quote=Buffalo Bob;1232763]I disagree. Taking the penalty when they had the Giants stopped on 3rd town instead of declining and letting the Giants try a 45 yard field goal on their opening drive. Instead of down 3-0 or tied at 0-0 if they miss, the Giants convert that 3rd and long and end up getting a TD shortly there after.

With the Redskins allowing a ridiculous amount of 3rd and long conversions and the way the Giants were marching down the field no way does a coach with anything larger than a pea brain give them a 2nd chance to keep the drive alive.[/quote]


[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1232770]I think that is a great hindsight reaction but any team would take the penalty push a team out of field goal range. It is hard to fathom how really bad this team is on 3rd down that they could let that happen.[/quote]

It wasn't a hindsight reaction, when the Redskins took the penalty I went ballistic. It didn't really push them out of FG range, the Giant kicker has a strong leg. After a turnover in your own end being down only 3-0 would have been a mental boost. I understand playing the percentages, but you have to factor in your teams strengths and weaknesses.


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