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Chico23231 09-12-2013 03:02 PM

Re: Skins v Eagles post game thread
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1024918]Overreaction Tuesday continues:
[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/news/brace-yourselves-washingtonians-disappointing-redskins-season-152600444--nfl.html]Y! SPORTS[/url]

What a clown.[/quote]

There is a ton of sports media garbage within Yahoo sports. I mean, Bleacher Report level stuff.

Lotus 09-12-2013 03:08 PM

Re: Skins v Eagles post game thread
 
[quote=Chico23231;1024924]There is a ton of sports media garbage within Yahoo sports. I mean, Bleacher Report level stuff.[/quote]

Yeah, Yahoo used to have a higher standard. Now it mixes real news with crap.

htownskinfan 09-12-2013 03:13 PM

Re: Skins v Eagles post game thread
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1024918]Overreaction Tuesday continues:
[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/news/brace-yourselves-washingtonians-disappointing-redskins-season-152600444--nfl.html]Y! SPORTS[/url]

What a clown.[/quote]

I dont see him as being a clown,what do you disagree with? I think he's spot on about RG3,what do you disagree with?
Where he could be wrong is about Morris,by middle of the year teams knew not to under estimate Morris,so I think he's wrong there.But I think he will be right about Morris's production.He will probably still get a 1000 yards but I dont think he approaches last yrs 1600.Without the threat of Rg3 running and the misdirection of the read option he's not going to see the lanes he saw last yr

Skinzman 09-12-2013 03:23 PM

Re: Skins v Eagles post game thread
 
[quote=htownskinfan;1024926]I dont see him as being a clown,what do you disagree with? I think he's spot on about RG3,what do you disagree with?
Where he could be wrong is about Morris,by middle of the year teams knew not to under estimate Morris,so I think he's wrong there.But I think he will be right about Morris's production.He will probably still get a 1000 yards but I dont think he approaches last yrs 1600.Without the threat of Rg3 running and the misdirection of the read option he's not going to see the lanes he saw last yr[/quote]

One of the things I disagree with is this.

"Defenses underestimated him but won't this season. Don't be surprised if he gains fewer than 1,000 yards this season. How talented can he be if so many pro scouts didn't view him as a top running back and the Skins didn't draft him until the sixth round?"

Keep in mind, Morris was one of the league leaders in yards after contact. You dont get that by being a terrible back. People stopped underestimating Alfred pretty early on last year. He was not underestimated the entire last half of the season when they won 7 straight.

I also cant stand the rational that if you are selected in the 6th round, then you are terrible football player. Tom Brady was a 6th rounder. Terrelle Davis was a 6th rounder. Joe Jacoby was undrafted back when there were a lot more than 7 rounds. The list goes on.

Chico23231 09-12-2013 03:23 PM

Re: Skins v Eagles post game thread
 
[quote=htownskinfan;1024926]I dont see him as being a clown,what do you disagree with? I think he's spot on about RG3,what do you disagree with?
Where he could be wrong is about Morris,by middle of the year teams knew not to under estimate Morris,so I think he's wrong there.But I think he will be right about Morris's production.He will probably still get a 1000 yards but I dont think he approaches last yrs 1600.Without the threat of Rg3 running and the misdirection of the read option he's not going to see the lanes he saw last yr[/quote]

Because he first discredits RG3 as a passer but not acknowledging thats his strength, and basically says system QB. He says Morris wont be as good because he was picked in the 6th round.

Lotus 09-12-2013 03:39 PM

Re: Skins v Eagles post game thread
 
[quote=Chico23231;1024929]Because he first discredits RG3 as a passer but not acknowledging thats his strength, and basically says system QB. [B]He says Morris wont be as good because he was picked in the 6th round.[/B][/quote]

Yeah, that's not a sound argument that he made. That argument means that Tom Brady is no good.

MTK 09-12-2013 03:47 PM

Re: Skins v Eagles post game thread
 
He's a clown for this "logic":

[QUOTE]Defenses underestimated him but won't this season. Don't be surprised if he gains fewer than 1,000 yards this season. How talented can he be if so many pro scouts didn't view him as a top running back and the Skins didn't draft him until the sixth round?[/QUOTE]

GoSkins! 09-12-2013 03:48 PM

Re: Skins v Eagles post game thread
 
[quote=Skinzman;1024928]

I also cant stand the rational that if you are selected in the 6th round, then you are terrible football player. Tom Brady was a 6th rounder. Terrelle Davis was a 6th rounder. Joe Jacoby was undrafted back when there were a lot more than 7 rounds. The list goes on.[/quote]

Man... Fletcher must be really bad too...

Gmanc711 09-12-2013 05:01 PM

Re: Skins v Eagles post game thread
 
[quote=Skinzman;1024928]One of the things I disagree with is this.

"Defenses underestimated him but won't this season. Don't be surprised if he gains fewer than 1,000 yards this season. How talented can he be if so many pro scouts didn't view him as a top running back and the Skins didn't draft him until the sixth round?"

Keep in mind, Morris was one of the league leaders in yards after contact. You dont get that by being a terrible back. People stopped underestimating Alfred pretty early on last year. He was not underestimated the entire last half of the season when they won 7 straight.

I also cant stand the rational that if you are selected in the 6th round, then you are terrible football player. Tom Brady was a 6th rounder. Terrelle Davis was a 6th rounder. Joe Jacoby was undrafted back when there were a lot more than 7 rounds. The list goes on.[/quote]

What the hell does underestimating mean? I'm pretty sure if "underestimating" was even a think, teams stopped doing that last year around week 4.. Yet Morris went on to break a Redskins rushing record, and gashed the Cowboys for 200 yards in week 17 when RG3 could still barley walk.

I do agree that Morris may not have as good of a season as last year, but the way he presented that was pretty stupid. If you make an NFL roster, I'm pretty sure you're not "underestimated".

donofriose 09-12-2013 05:45 PM

Re: Skins v Eagles post game thread
 
[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/conversations/_/id/9666499/reports-deangelo-hall-washington-redskins-fined-20k-tackle]Reports -- DeAngelo Hall of Washington Redskins fined $20K for tackle - ESPN[/url]

NFL thought Hall's tackle was bad enough to fine him.

MTK 09-12-2013 05:47 PM

Re: Skins v Eagles post game thread
 
[quote=donofriose;1024944][url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/conversations/_/id/9666499/reports-deangelo-hall-washington-redskins-fined-20k-tackle]Reports -- DeAngelo Hall of Washington Redskins fined $20K for tackle - ESPN[/url]

NFL thought Hall's tackle was bad enough to fine him.[/quote]

It was pretty bad, they were 5 yards out of bounds and he was still hanging on him.

skinsfaninok 09-12-2013 05:48 PM

Re: Skins v Eagles post game thread
 
game was so bad in the 1st that I forgot hall's easiest ever TD return. How many Tds does he have in his career now though? Seems like he gets one a year

htownskinfan 09-12-2013 06:18 PM

Re: Skins v Eagles post game thread
 
[quote=Mattyk;1024934]He's a clown for this "logic":[/quote]

Ok I"ll give you that,the logic about being a 6th round pick is pretty stupid.I think he was pretty spot on about RG3.I think he's correct in saying Morris wont gain as many yards this yr but his reasoning of it being because he's a 6th round pick and being underestimated is flawed

GTripp0012 09-12-2013 06:23 PM

Re: Skins v Eagles post game thread
 
I mean it's not exactly an edgy opinion to suggest that the Redskins may be in trouble this year. The NFL did its best to give RG3 a homecoming opponent for his return, and they really beat our ass. They got exposed.

I think it's more productive to focus on how a team with more talent than it has had in the last five years can rally and improve over the next few weeks. Maybe they can. Maybe they'll struggle. But if you were going to predict doom for this team, you kind of missed the window where that's a prediction and not an observation.

People were down-ish on this team in the preaseason, but no one I read picked them to finish below Philadelphia.

MTK 09-12-2013 06:26 PM

Re: Skins v Eagles post game thread
 
[quote=htownskinfan;1024956]Ok I"ll give you that,the logic about being a 6th round pick is pretty stupid.I think he was pretty spot on about RG3.I think he's correct in saying Morris wont gain as many yards this yr but his reasoning of it being because he's a 6th round pick and being underestimated is flawed[/quote]

He may not hit 1600 but less than 1000?

That article is a joke.

It was one game, everyone needs to take a deep breath and calm the F down.


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