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Lotus 04-28-2014 05:54 PM

Re: 2014 draft prospects Early edition
 
[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1069549]Would you rather have Jace Amaro in the 2nd or Austin Seferain-Jenkins in the 3rd?[/quote]

Amaro because he is more of a threat down the seam. I say go big or go home on that one.

punch it in 04-28-2014 06:13 PM

[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1069549]Would you rather have Jace Amaro in the 2nd or Austin Seferain-Jenkins in the 3rd?[/QUOTE]


As a Skins fan I would be dumbfounded if we took a TE in the second or third. If this is just a general question I guess Amaro.

Irrefutable 04-28-2014 06:21 PM

Re: 2014 draft prospects Early edition
 
[quote=punch it in;1069552]As a Skins fan I would be dumbfounded if we took a TE in the second or third. If this is just a general question I guess Amaro.[/quote]

I wouldn't, there are 6 or so good TEs in the draft,and the Redskins need 1 or 2 more.

punch it in 04-28-2014 06:31 PM

[QUOTE=Irrefutable;1069553]I wouldn't, there are 6 or so good TEs in the draft,and the Redskins need 1 or 2 more.[/QUOTE]


We have one of the best young TE's in football. I understand that he was injured last year. I understand the two tight end sets. What I also understand is that we have waaaaay more pressing needs than a backup for Reed or another stud opposite him. Paul and Paulsen are young and cheap, so lets work with that group and address cb, s, rt, rg, ilb.......

Dirtbag59 04-28-2014 08:30 PM

Re: 2014 draft prospects Early edition
 
[quote=Irrefutable;1069553]I wouldn't, there are 6 or so good TEs in the draft,and the Redskins need 1 or 2 more.[/quote]

I don't get the TE rumors. From what I've seen the articles citing it aren't so much rumors as speculation along the lines of "well Gruden had two good TE's in Cincy so he'll probably want two good TE's in Washington."

[url=http://fansided.com/2014/04/27/nfl-draft-rumors-washington-redskins-targeting-tight-end/#!GhtJW]NFL Draft Rumors: Washington Redskins targeting a tight end? - FanSided - Sports News, Entertainment, Lifestyle & Technology - 270+ Sites[/url]
[quote]There are many who think that Redskins tight end Jordan Reed has Pro Bowl potential after a promising rookie year. Could Gruden push to add another tight end into the mix via the draft in hopes of duplicating the two-TE production he got in Cincinnati?

He could, be it won’t be easy. The Redskins don’t have a first-round pick so they will not have a shot at Eric Ebron out of North Carolina, the consensus top tight end in the draft. He should go in the top half of the first round, if not the top 10.[/quote]

See nothing even remotely resembling a rumor. Talk about a misleading title.

Lotus 04-28-2014 10:04 PM

Re: 2014 draft prospects Early edition
 
[quote=Dirtbag59;1069569]I don't get the TE rumors. From what I've seen the articles citing it aren't so much rumors as speculation along the lines of "well Gruden had two good TE's in Cincy so he'll probably want two good TE's in Washington."

[url=http://fansided.com/2014/04/27/nfl-draft-rumors-washington-redskins-targeting-tight-end/#!GhtJW]NFL Draft Rumors: Washington Redskins targeting a tight end? - FanSided - Sports News, Entertainment, Lifestyle & Technology - 270+ Sites[/url]


See nothing even remotely resembling a rumor. Talk about a misleading title.[/quote]

My argument for a TE has a different premise: we had better make sure that we have one pass catching TE before we worry about two. Reed is not a gimme given his health. It's not like he had a muscle tear and just has to rehab.

Dirtbag59 04-28-2014 10:32 PM

Re: 2014 draft prospects Early edition
 
[quote=Lotus;1069583]My argument for a TE has a different premise: we had better make sure that we have one pass catching TE before we worry about two. Reed is not a gimme given his health. It's not like he had a muscle tear and just has to rehab.[/quote]

Oh I agree 100%. At this point I'm more concerned about Reeds health than RG3's as you can see from the chart provided below. ([URL="http://youtu.be/TBtpyeLxVkI"]Additional Commentary Link[/URL])
[IMG]http://i61.tinypic.com/2ijofwh.png[/IMG]

However unless Ebron by some miracle falls to us at 34 I don't think I can get on board with drafting a TE that high. In fact it would take a guy who would eventually become a hall of famer before I could make my peace with a Tight End with our first pick and a multi-pro bowl offensive lineman that starts his rookie year in subsequent picks.

And as I stated before Tight End is possibly my favorite position in all of football. In fact Tight Ends: Dirtbag59 is the same as Brett Favre: John Madden.

However if they drafted guys like Niklas {TE Notre Dame} or Fiedorowicz {TE Iowa} as early as the 3rd round or even guys like Lyerla {TE Oregon} or Pedersen {TE Wisc} I could get on board with that.

I still maintain though that Moses {OT UVA} and Yankey {OG Stan} would be my ideal 1-2 punch as unlikely as it would be.

Irrefutable 04-28-2014 11:10 PM

Re: 2014 draft prospects Early edition
 
pick #34 needs to be the best player available at a position of need. No one knows who will slide into the 2nd. However, based on the current rankings a very good TE will probably be available.....if a good O/D tackle, safety, ILB slides maybe you take him.

I would like to trade down.......... there are plenty of urgent needs

Lotus 04-28-2014 11:34 PM

Re: 2014 draft prospects Early edition
 
[quote=Dirtbag59;1069584]Oh I agree 100%. At this point I'm more concerned about Reeds health than RG3's as you can see from the chart provided below. ([URL="http://youtu.be/TBtpyeLxVkI"]Additional Commentary Link[/URL])
[IMG]http://i61.tinypic.com/2ijofwh.png[/IMG]

However unless Ebron by some miracle falls to us at 34 I don't think I can get on board with drafting a TE that high. In fact it would take a guy who would eventually become a hall of famer before I could make my peace with a Tight End with our first pick and a multi-pro bowl offensive lineman that starts his rookie year in subsequent picks.

And as I stated before Tight End is possibly my favorite position in all of football. In fact Tight Ends: Dirtbag59 is the same as Brett Favre: John Madden.

However if they drafted guys like Niklas {TE Notre Dame} or Fiedorowicz {TE Iowa} as early as the 3rd round or even guys like Lyerla {TE Oregon} or Pedersen {TE Wisc} I could get on board with that.

[B]I still maintain though that Moses {OT UVA} and Yankey {OG Stan} would be my ideal 1-2 punch as unlikely as it would be.[/B][/quote]

Can't argue with that. The OL would be much improved.

SirLK26 04-29-2014 03:12 AM

Re: 2014 draft prospects Early edition
 
Dirtbag, your posts make me LOL. Your Kim Jong Un and Justin Bieber health concern levels...:laughing2

SmootSmack 04-29-2014 09:15 AM

Re: 2014 draft prospects Early edition
 
I think we all know who Matty is hoping we [URL="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1737233/ego-ferguson"]draft[/URL]

Lotus 04-29-2014 09:26 AM

Re: 2014 draft prospects Early edition
 
[quote=smootsmack;1069600]i think we all know who matty is hoping we [url="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1737233/ego-ferguson"]draft[/url][/quote]

lol.

skinsfan69 04-29-2014 11:24 AM

Re: 2014 draft prospects Early edition
 
Outside of RB and QB, we have to take the best player available. Reed simply could not stay on the field. The sky is the limit for the kid but if he can't say on the field he's useless. What if Benjamin drops to us? Even though we added two wr's in FA, would you pass up on this potential beast?

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-29-2014 11:35 AM

Re: 2014 draft prospects Early edition
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1069623]Outside of RB and QB, we have to take the best player available. Reed simply could not stay on the field. The sky is the limit for the kid but if he can't say on the field he's useless. What if Benjamin drops to us? Even though we added two wr's in FA, would you pass up on this potential beast?[/quote]

Yes because I really dont think he is that good.

Ruhskins 04-29-2014 11:42 AM

Re: 2014 draft prospects Early edition
 
[quote=SmootSmack;1069600]I think we all know who Matty is hoping we [URL="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1737233/ego-ferguson"]draft[/URL][/quote]

I hear Summo is already working on an avatar. LOL.


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