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You have to rush the passer in order to be successful in this league bottom line. Orakpo is our guy in rushing the passer. The performances of our DEs our not helping Orakpo and Kerrigan be successful as he should be.

Riley doesnt, hasnt made game changing plays; Orakpo has.

We need to bring both back. Im not opposed to Franchising Orakpo if a deal cant get done, actually would perfer it.

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I wouldn't gloss it over by saying Orakpo makes game changing plays.
Orakpo makes plays that help us to not lose so badly.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1059633]I wouldn't gloss it over by saying Orakpo makes game changing plays.
Orakpo makes plays that help us to not lose so badly.[/quote]

When Orakpo goes to the Jets, Pats or Steelers people are going to be livid when they see the sack totals.

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[quote=Chico23231;1059642]When Orakpo goes to the Jets, Pats or Steelers people are going to be livid when they see the sack totals.[/quote]

The Steelers and Pats usually do not sign high dollar free agent LB's. They draft a ton of Lb's and promote from with in.

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[quote=Chico23231;1059642]When Orakpo goes to the Jets, Pats or Steelers people are going to be livid when they see the sack totals.[/quote]

Come on, Chico, you know better than that. The Skins are going to Franchise Orakpo. You said so yourself.

It would look bad if the Skins didn't make some sort of perfuctory attempt to sign him to a long-term deal. So they'll tag him and enter into negotiations for a long-term deal. But they really shouldn't sign him long-term and they won't. They'll just try to make it look good and then pay him for one year.

Meanwhile, the Skins need to find ways to generate more pressure from other players, as well, if they want to get the most out of Orakpo. He is not Lawrence Taylor but, with a little help, he can be even more effective in rushing the passer.

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[quote=Defensewins;1059648]The Steelers and Pats usually do not sign high dollar free agent LB's. They draft a ton of Lb's and promote from with in.[/quote]

Well I think the Steelers have cap problems righ tnow, so I highly doubt they'd be able to sign anyone.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1059657]Come on, Chico, you know better than that. The Skins are going to Franchise Orakpo. You said so yourself.

It would look bad if the Skins didn't make some sort of perfuctory attempt to sign him to a long-term deal. So they'll tag him and enter into negotiations for a long-term deal. But they really shouldn't sign him long-term and they won't. They'll just try to make it look good and then pay him for one year.

Meanwhile, the Skins need to find ways to generate more pressure from other players, as well, if they want to get the most out of Orakpo. He is not Lawrence Taylor but, with a little help, he can be even more effective in rushing the passer.[/quote]

If we lose Orakpo it will be another Carlos Rogers, Laron Laundry situation for sure. Leave here and excell somewhere else. We've seen that too much in the last 20 years.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1059660]Well I think the Steelers have cap problems righ tnow, so I highly doubt they'd be able to sign anyone.[/quote]

I've hear it might be peaceout time for Woodley.

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When did this become Riley vs Orackpo? Why can't we be happy and attempt to get both?

Riley is only one piece of the two we need in a 3/4. I feel like we need to go and and make a move for someone like Butler. If we don't make a move for someone with his skill set. We should be drafting Christian Jones from Florida State.

Philadelphia beat us because we lack the speed on defense. Dallas always abuses us with their TE's. We need athletic LB's in the middle to win the NFC East.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1059660]Well I think the Steelers have cap problems righ tnow, so I highly doubt they'd be able to sign anyone.[/quote]

That is correct and New England only has $5M. According to the source below.

[url=http://www.spotrac.com/premium/research/nfl/projected-2014-nfl-team-cap-space-420/]UPDATED: Projected 2014 NFL Team Cap Space[/url]

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[quote=Bucket;1059664]When did this become Riley vs Orackpo? Why can't we be happy and attempt to get both?

Riley is only one piece of the two we need in a 3/4. I feel like we need to go and and make a move for someone like Butler. If we don't make a move for someone with his skill set. We should be drafting Christian Jones from Florida State.

Philadelphia beat us because we lack the speed on defense. Dallas always abuses us with their TE's. We need athletic LB's in the middle to win the NFC East.[/quote]

Yer darn tootin!

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[quote=Bucket;1059664]When did this become Riley vs Orackpo? Why can't we be happy and attempt to get both?

Riley is only one piece of the two we need in a 3/4. I feel like we need to go and and make a move for someone like Butler. If we don't make a move for someone with his skill set. We should be drafting Christian Jones from Florida State.

Philadelphia beat us because we lack the speed on defense. Dallas always abuses us with their TE's. We need athletic LB's in the middle to win the NFC East.[/quote]

I think you're right we need both Riley and Orakpo. I also think you're right about Butler. He would be an excellent signing for our defense.

Where did this Riley or Orakpo stuff come from? Some sports blogger speculation? Well, they've got to produce copy, you know, even if it is nonsensical.

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Highly likely Rak and Riley both return IMO.

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[quote=Bucket;1059664]When did this become Riley vs Orackpo? Why can't we be happy and attempt to get both?

Riley is only one piece of the two we need in a 3/4. I feel like we need to go and and make a move for someone like Butler. If we don't make a move for someone with his skill set. We should be drafting Christian Jones from Florida State.

Philadelphia beat us because we lack the speed on defense. Dallas always abuses us with their TE's. We need athletic LB's in the middle to win the NFC East.[/quote]


We need to make it a priority to keep both. Riley is likely better than any FA we can get at that position. He's going to be known as one of the top LBs in the NFL soon.

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Looks like D Hall and the Redskins reached a contract deal. 4 years.

Can't find the link yet. Got the text on my phone.