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Nobody on here knows who their top candidate is or was anyway. That person may still be in play. A lot of assumptions going around.

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[quote=Redskins247;1358190]This! Don't want EB anywhere near our rookie QB.[/quote]

I couldnt stomach him anywhere near this team for another second!

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1358191]Nobody on here knows who their top candidate is or was anyway. That person may still be in play. A lot of assumptions going around.[/QUOTE]


Fueling up the jet to fly to Detroit though?

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I don’t see any of these options as a win. All appear to be settling for table scraps that everyone else has no interest.

I certainly wouldn’t want to draft a QB with any of them, they will get killed back there with our OLine and some clown ass OC they scrape off the bottom of the barrel.
As most of you are smitten with wasting a #2 pick on a project QB not worthy of said pick, you should pray for a reset on the search for HC. Someone who could groom a college QB in the nfl and not get him killed or completely ruined.
Maybe Saban? Or, Smart?

I gather most don’t want EB back, and I’m almost sure that includes the players, but I’m leaning towards keeping EB, trading back, loading up on OLine and full other holes next via draft an free agency. Let Sam have a go, and if no success, cut bait on EB and Sam with a new Oline built and hopefully more playmakers under contract.

As a Redskins fan, I’m used to praying for a miracle to happen.

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[quote=MTK;1358175]Campbell wasn't a coordinator before the Lions job[/quote]

Oh I'm not saying it's a bad thing in the modern NFL. Antonio Pierce was just the LB coach and by all accounts he's done a good job with the Raiders.

Just saying I remember when it was a bad thing when the HC had no coordinator experience. The times change - doesn't matter if you don't have coordinator experience as long as you have leadership qualities.

Also I'm slowly selling myself on Anthony Weaver as HC - apparently in 2022 he was the Ravens run game coordinator and d-line coach, then in 2023 he was assistant head coach/d-line coach. Former coordinator for the Texans before that. And as long as he's respected by the players and can identify quality coordinators/playcallers it's all good with me. I agree with Adam Peters - the HC doesn't need to be a primary playcaller/etc. - he needs to be the leader.

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Top Candidate was Ben Johnson.
The question now is who is plan B?

Could we see a scenario where a temp guy is in place for next year?
Maybe it’s EB for 2024 then go after Ben Johnson next year.

I don’t want to go with a mediocre guy for the next 5 years. I’d rather have EB get us another top 5 pick while we wait for the guy.

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Hate to say it but Bill Belichick is still available :D.

Not sure he'd sign up for a scenario where he doesn't have total control though.

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[quote=mooby;1358198]Hate to say it but Bill Belichick is still available :D.

Not sure he'd sign up for a scenario where he doesn't have total control though.[/quote]

He's kinda old to be holding out when only 1 job is left.

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[quote=MTK;1358185]Honestly EB would be way more disappointing than someone like Quinn for me.

Who says we'd be locked in to someone for 4 years? If next year is another disaster you cut bait.

I just don't want EB getting someone like Daniels or Maye killed back there with his bullshit drop back 50 times a game with zero running game offense.[/quote]

true

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Gonna throw a name out there, Pete Carroll? I'd take him over BB to be honest. And def. for sure over Dan Quinn.

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If it was going to be Quinn what's the holdup? Hire him already. That's what makes me think he's not option #1 right now.

Weaver has an interview lined up for the DC job in Miami, they could be waiting on a decision from him.

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[quote=punch it in;1358194]Fueling up the jet to fly to Detroit though?[/quote]

Well, there were 2 people being interviewed there.

Billionaires top off their jets and fly wherever they want whenever they want. I don't think that clues us in on anyone being the top candidate.

I think it was Adam Schefter who even said, don't believe everything you're hearing about Ben Johnson being the
Commander's top target.

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Maybe they are waiting for Steve Wilks

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[quote=punch it in;1358194]Fueling up the jet to fly to Detroit though?[/quote]

[devils advocate] to do due diligence on both Glenn and Johnson.

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Does Chris Foerster deserve a shot?

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[quote=Are Jay;1358206]Does Chris Foerster deserve a shot?[/quote]

You mean this guy?

[url]https://www.tmz.com/2017/10/09/dolphins-coach-chris-foerster-resigns-after-cocaine-video-i-need-help/[/url]

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[quote=Are Jay;1358206]Does Chris Foerster deserve a shot?[/quote]

as OC yes, HC no

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Breaking news ... JDR is being flown back to DC .....😳😀

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[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39429973/sources-seahawks-hire-ravens-dc-mike-macdonald-coach[/url]


Damn
Mac is out

Sorry just realized this is old news. But the link makes it official in here. Lol.


Oh well. Lame duck someone for another year

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Spin it however you want ; it’s fairly obvious the commanders didn’t get their guy and are now shifting through the dumpster in hopes of a uneaten dinner roll to call head coach

Different day same shit

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8 of the last 10 SB winning coaches were on their 2nd stint as HC

Only McVay is a true virgin coordinator who has won it all first go around

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Fine line between due diligence and a sloppy job.

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[quote=mredskins;1358211]Spin it however you want ; it’s fairly obvious the commanders didn’t get their guy and are now shifting through the dumpster in hopes of a uneaten dinner roll to call head coach

Different day same shit[/quote]

I’m not buying that Peters was all in on Johnson and now that he fell through he’s flailing around aimlessly with no plan

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They look kinda stupid right now. How many times have they met w/ Quinn? 3 times and they still have not given the guy the job. I'd tell Harris and Peters to fuck off and withdraw my name. I'm going to go back to Dallas and keep abusing your offense and dragging your QB. He looks like a doormat and that would piss me off.

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[quote=MTK;1358215]I’m not buying that Peters was all in on Johnson and now that he fell through he’s flailing around aimlessly with no plan[/quote]

Remember he is new at this. He's never hired a coach has he? Nope.

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I don’t care who is HC at this point…I care a lot more who is the OC.

We need someone who develop a rookie QB.

We don’t get that, doesn’t matter whoever the HC will fail and we will be doing this again in 4 years

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[quote=skinsfan69;1358217]Remember he is new at this. He's never hired a coach has he? Nope.[/quote]

Glenn or Weaver, Weaver or Glenn. Unless it's someone out of leftfield, those are the only 2 guys that I have any interest in.

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Josh Beck for OC.

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[url]https://www.reddit.com/r/Commanders/s/nxWm71r5zA[/url]

Detroit podcast reporting BJ had a standing offer from us and to make more then Dan Campbell

He was definitely our top pick , we waited for him as plan B C D etc all signed else where

Now Peter’s is flapping in the wind

If Quinn let’s say was our first pick ; what is the hold up guy been available longer then the ugliest stripper in the bar for a lap dance

The Commanders are in a tough spot right now ; they need a coach and have limited options; if what is left is anyone good someone would have hired them by now

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ESPN has an interesting article about the B.C. head coach leaving to become the Packers DC. The gist was college football is turning into such a joke that HC's are willing to take "lesser" positions at bigger schools or the NFL. Could possibly open up a lot more OC candidates than are currently on the radar.

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[quote=mredskins;1358221][url]https://www.reddit.com/r/Commanders/s/nxWm71r5zA[/url]

Detroit podcast reporting BJ had a standing offer from us and to make more then Dan Campbell

He was definitely our top pick , we waited for him as plan B C D etc all signed else where

Now Peter’s is flapping in the wind

If Quinn let’s say was our first pick ; what is the hold up guy been available longer then the ugliest stripper in the bar for a lap dance

The Commanders are in a tough spot right now ; they need a coach and have limited options; if what is left is anyone good someone would have hired them by now[/quote]

Johnson is my Cousins of the coaching world. I wish him good health but professional failure.

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[quote=mredskins;1358221][url]https://www.reddit.com/r/Commanders/s/nxWm71r5zA[/url]

Detroit podcast reporting BJ had a standing offer from us and to make more then Dan Campbell

He was definitely our top pick , we waited for him as plan B C D etc all signed else where

Now Peter’s is flapping in the wind

If Quinn let’s say was our first pick ; what is the hold up guy been available longer then the ugliest stripper in the bar for a lap dance

The Commanders are in a tough spot right now ; they need a coach and have limited options; if what is left is anyone good someone would have hired them by now[/quote]

Haha... ok. Well, Dan Campbell is reportedly making $4 mil per year... Sooo they had a "standing offer" to pay BJ more than $4 mil per year. Whoop-de-do. RR was making $8.5 mil/yr.

Doesn't scream "all-in" to me...

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[quote=MTK;1358215]I’m not buying that Peters was all in on Johnson and now that he fell through he’s flailing around aimlessly with no plan[/quote]

I'm not buying that either. Nothing has changed with regard to Washington and San Diego being the best destinations for a GM and HC this off season. It was that way in the beginning - which is why we have Adam Peters - and it's still the case for Washington.

It's entirely possible their #1 candidate after all the 2nd interviews is still out there, and the [I]other[/I] candidates had to settle for other jobs, because they didn't get the job they hoped for in Washington... or in some cases they just weren't ready for it, and had momma call the pilot to relay the message that he couldn't come out of the basement for another interview until next year.

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I don't care if all of you get pissed but this is all Dan Snyder like shit show ... This new owner totally shit the bed on this .. I have NO illusions that this is gonna be any getter than Snyder .. Harris knew for a damn year that he was gonna fire Ron !! A year head start and we are down to the Bottom of Barrell on the coach .. I'm not cutting anyone slack this is amateur hour and I have had enough ! We are the laughing stock of the entire league . This franchise is currently the worst in the league even with NEW Owners and GM ! The team with NO Identity.. No leadership ( we got coordinators turning us down to be HEAD Coach) .. it's bad ! Johnson never wanted any part of this team in fact the so called fans don't care enough to attend games they sell there tickets to the opposing teams fans .. the stadium sucks ,the facilities suck, the name sucks .. tell me what doesn't suck about this team ! I'm waiting

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[quote=skinsfan69;1358216]They look kinda stupid right now. How many times have they met w/ Quinn? 3 times and they still have not given the guy the job. I'd tell Harris and Peters to fuck off and withdraw my name. I'm going to go back to Dallas and keep abusing your offense and dragging your QB. He looks like a doormat and that would piss me off.[/quote]

I think they only met with him twice, like every other candidate. There was a false report last week that there were 3 meetings with him.

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I'm now officially like Jamf but instead of Sam being the target it's the entire front office and owner.. Clowns 🤡 hell even Carolina got their coach with their crap owner .. this is beyond bad !! Not one of us should cut them any slack !! I have No faith they are gonna get the coach right or the draft or free agents .. or ever change the suck ass name or build a decent stadium .. if you do then you got your rose colored glasses on !! Wanna bet they spin this that Johnson or Macdonald were never the choice ? I sure hope they don't think we are that stupid .. They need to man up admit they shit the bed !

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I feel like collectively as a group there are a lot of people worked up because the consensus #1 pick for HC threw a curveball and cancelled the date while we were driving over to pick them up. "Why don't he want me man?!"

The reality is Ben Johnson was and is not the last great potential HC available in the NFL. Is it a disadvantage to be the last team without a HC? Sure, but if you trust in our GM - the consensus #1 next great GM pick in the NFL - then you trust that he can do his job and work the pool of available candidates to find a leader he wants to build around for the next 5+ years. If that's Quinn, so be it. Hopefully he's a little bit older and a little bit wiser from his first time as a HC. If it's Weaver or somebody under the radar, I'm fine with it too. I trust the guy/s running the show because their last name doesn't rhyme with rider.

For the record I don't buy the "I want to win a title" narrative in Detroit either. I think either he lacks confidence or the vibe wasn't right with our staff. Guy has done this 2 years in a row - he's the one who backs out. I don't want him if he's not the right guy for the job.

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[quote=rocnrik;1358226]I don't care if all of you get pissed but this is all Dan Snyder like shit show ... This new owner totally shit the bed on this .. I have NO illusions that this is gonna be any getter than Snyder .. Harris knew for a damn year that he was gonna fire Ron !! A year head start and we are down to the Bottom of Barrell on the coach .. I'm not cutting anyone slack this is amateur hour and I have had enough ! We are the laughing stock of the entire league . This franchise is currently the worst in the league even with NEW Owners and GM ! The team with NO Identity.. No leadership ( we got coordinators turning us down to be HEAD Coach) .. it's bad ! Johnson never wanted any part of this team in fact the so called fans don't care enough to attend games they sell there tickets to the opposing teams fans .. the stadium sucks ,the facilities suck, the name sucks .. tell me what doesn't suck about this team ! I'm waiting[/quote]

Well, we still have passionate fans :lol:

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[quote=rocnrik;1358226]I don't care if all of you get pissed but this is all Dan Snyder like shit show ... This new owner totally shit the bed on this .. I have NO illusions that this is gonna be any getter than Snyder .. Harris knew for a damn year that he was gonna fire Ron !! A year head start and we are down to the Bottom of Barrell on the coach .. I'm not cutting anyone slack this is amateur hour and I have had enough ! We are the laughing stock of the entire league . This franchise is currently the worst in the league even with NEW Owners and GM ! The team with NO Identity.. No leadership ( we got coordinators turning us down to be HEAD Coach) .. it's bad ! Johnson never wanted any part of this team in fact the so called fans don't care enough to attend games they sell there tickets to the opposing teams fans .. the stadium sucks ,the facilities suck, the name sucks .. tell me what doesn't suck about this team ! I'm waiting[/quote]

PSTS (Post Snyder Trauma Sydrome) IS real! The reactions in this thread are evidence of it.

All evidence suggests that the team is following a plan: 8 initial interviews, 5 scheduled follow up interviews this week. Several of the follow up interviews were on teams that were eliminated this week ( Weaver, Glenn, Macdonald, Johnson) so no decision was going to be made before today. Did Johnson's backing out throw a wrench in it. Possibly. Does it mean that we now are doomed to Zorn II, most definitely not.

If we don't have a HC in the next week, then we can revisit the question. But right now it looks like they did the second set of interviews and are evaluating the results. I imagine an answer will be today or tomorrow.

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[quote=rocnrik;1358226]I don't care if all of you get pissed but this is all Dan Snyder like shit show ... This new owner totally shit the bed on this .. I have NO illusions that this is gonna be any getter than Snyder .. Harris knew for a damn year that he was gonna fire Ron !! A year head start and we are down to the Bottom of Barrell on the coach .. I'm not cutting anyone slack this is amateur hour and I have had enough ! We are the laughing stock of the entire league . This franchise is currently the worst in the league even with NEW Owners and GM ! The team with NO Identity.. No leadership ( we got coordinators turning us down to be HEAD Coach) .. it's bad ! Johnson never wanted any part of this team in fact the so called fans don't care enough to attend games they sell there tickets to the opposing teams fans .. the stadium sucks ,the facilities suck, the name sucks .. tell me what doesn't suck about this team ! I'm waiting[/quote]

Honestly though, who were the "serious" candidates (who actually got at least one interview)?

Ben Johnson: Seems to be a great OC, but obviously not ready to be a HC. Probably can't lead his dog to the dog dish.
Bobby Slowik: Had a great year, has more to prove. Not ready.
Raheem Morris: Intriguing, ready for round 2, but went to Atlanta.
Mike Macdonald - Also intriguing (my first choice), probably ready, said to be a leader, but went to Seattle.

I don't know that any of the above names were the new owner's #1. They all had 2nd interviews, but then again so did everyone below, with the exception of EB.

Aaron Glenn - in play
Anthony Weaver - in play
Dan Quinn - in play
Eric Bieniemy - in play

So half of the candidates are still in play. I can't agree that we're scraping the bottom of the barrel, or that this screams "amateur hour".