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[quote=NC_Skins;860770]LOL@ their motto. "A community that embraces civility".[/quote]

Ms Spicuzza told the Sacramento Bee that [B]police used the pepper spray after they were surrounded. Protesters were warned repeatedly beforehand that force would be used if they didn't move, she said.[/B]

'There was no way out of that circle,' Ms Spicuzza said. 'They were cutting the officers off from their support. It's a very volatile situation.'

The tents went up on Thursday, and protesters were apparently warned on Friday morning that they had until 3 pm to take them down or they would be removed.

[B]On Friday, Katehi released a statement saying the police had no option.
'Following our requests, several of the group chose to dismantle their tents this afternoon and we are grateful for their actions. However a number of protesters refused our warning, offering us no option but to ask the police to assist in their removal.[/B]

'We are saddened to report that during this activity, 10 protestors were arrested and pepper spray was used. We will be reviewing the details of the incident,' she told the New York Daily News.

The university lacked the resources to keep the protest site from becoming a public health hazard. she said


Read more: [url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2063706/UC-Davis-pepper-spray-video-Chancellor-Linda-Katehi-refuses-quit-police-attack.html#ixzz1eHCqbfoX]UC Davis pepper spray video: Chancellor Linda Katehi refuses to quit after police attack | Mail Online[/url]

They were asked, they were warned and some complied others left the authorities no choice but to use force. Not like they surprised them with the pepper spray. It's a no win for the police. If they don't use the spray then they risk a melee trying to break up an illegal protest. Sorry, don't demonize the police when ample warnings were given and ample opportunity to disburse peacefully.

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[quote=NC_Skins;860770][url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2063706/UC-Davis-pepper-spray-video-Chancellor-Linda-Katehi-refuses-quit-police-attack.html]UC Davis pepper spray video: Chancellor Linda Katehi refuses to quit after police attack | Mail Online[/url]


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LOL@ their motto. "A community that embraces civility".[/quote]

You're quoting the Mail On Line?
You really expect any credibility after that?

Re: 'Occupy' types
 

For those against "Occupy" I would like to know:

Is it fair that 90% of elections at all levels are won by the person who spends more money (or gets more money from private interests)?

Do you support the right of corporations to spend millions of dollars lobbying congress, undermining the relationship between politicians and their constituents?

Does it seem moral that politicians can use insider information based on policy decisions to trade stocks and line their own pockets?

Is it okay that politicians who help corporations often end up getting high-paying jobs from those same corporations when they leave office?

Does it seem logical that in our capitalist system, a massive financial institution could become "too big to fail," forcing taxpayers to pickup a multi-trillion dollar bill brought about by destructive and reckless decision making by those institutions' leadership?

Do you see a problem with the fact that 20 years ago, you could raise a family on a single income, while today 2-income families sometimes barely scrape by - and that trend looks to continue?

Maybe you do not agree with the delivery of the unorganized movement. But how can you not support the message?

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[quote=NC_Skins;860770][URL="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2063706/UC-Davis-pepper-spray-video-Chancellor-Linda-Katehi-refuses-quit-police-attack.html"]UC Davis pepper spray video: Chancellor Linda Katehi refuses to quit after police attack | Mail Online[/URL]


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LOL@ their motto. "A community that embraces civility".[/quote]


I think they want to get pepper sprayed. Look at all the cameras there to capture this even though the cops warned them over and over again. Now they can scream about the cops. They are trying to take the blame off themself and get it directed toward the cops. Its also funny how they seem to always leave out the cops warning them in these clips posted.

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[quote=drew54;861823]For those against "Occupy" I would like to know:

[B]Is it fair that 90% of elections at all levels are won by the person who spends more money (or gets more money from private interests)?[/B]

Do you support the right of corporations to spend millions of dollars lobbying congress, undermining the relationship between politicians and their constituents?

Does it seem moral that politicians can use insider information based on policy decisions to trade stocks and line their own pockets?

Is it okay that politicians who help corporations often end up getting high-paying jobs from those same corporations when they leave office?

Does it seem logical that in our capitalist system, a massive financial institution could become "too big to fail," forcing taxpayers to pickup a multi-trillion dollar bill brought about by destructive and reckless decision making by those institutions' leadership?

Do you see a problem with the fact that 20 years ago, you could raise a family on a single income, while today 2-income families sometimes barely scrape by - and that trend looks to continue?

Maybe you do not agree with the delivery of the unorganized movement. But how can you not support the message?

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/t1onp.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Have you ever thought that the reason they have more money to spend is because they have more support and with that support come donations? I think the two go hand in hand. I'm not saying that I support it just making the point.

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[quote=firstdown;861964]Have you ever thought that the reason they have more money to spend is because they have more support and with that support come donations? I think the two go hand in hand. I'm not saying that I support it just making the point.[/quote]


I would agree with that if large groups like Unions and SuperPac groups could not donate unlimited funds. We need campaign finance reform in the worst way. I would like to see more light shined on the average donation size of some of these people.

I do not believe this is a left right movement. It should be a unifying movement but the media picks sides and keeps us divided.

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Is that photo of the cop spraying people while they are lined up and sitting in a fetile position real and undoctored?

that photo must be a fake. no way someone could actually defend that action by the cop.

nice try occupy people but you aint fooling me.

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[quote=over the mountain;862010]Is that photo of the cop spraying people while they are lined up and sitting in a fetile position real and undoctored?

that photo must be a fake. no way someone could actually defend that action by the cop.

nice try occupy people but you aint fooling me.[/quote]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8Uj1cV97XQ[/ame]

Supplied without comment. Please watch the whole thing. 15 minutes

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OTM,

[url=http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c3#/video/us/2011/11/20/nr-ucdavis-protest-incident.cnn]Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com[/url]

Re: 'Occupy' types
 

anyone that would defend the police pepper spraying these people needs their head examined... the right to organize, and protest, is a constitutional right...we actually need that many ARMED police at a protest? isn't this premise what our great country is founded on? what the hell have we become?

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[quote=dmek25;862061]anyone that would defend the police pepper spraying these people needs their head examined... [B]the right to organize, and protest, is a constitutional right..[/B].we actually need that many ARMED police at a protest? isn't this premise what our great country is founded on? what the hell have we become?[/quote]

Yes you have the right but you don't have the right to organize and protest any where and any time you want. Does anyone even know what the protest was for and who even called the cops? If this was on campus I'm sure the cops did not just show up without some from the school calling. Seems a little rough but I only know half of the story.

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LOL....total idiots.
Because of training I took I have had this stuff in my face before and trust me, its fecking bad!
Pretty stupid how these lemmings had plenty of advanced notice and they knew it was coming and just sat there and took it.
If a cop tells you to stop blocking the side walk....[I]you stop blocking the sidewalk.[/I]

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couldnt the cops have just plastic tied their arms behind their backs then carried them off one at a time?

yeah know, like they pretty much did right after giving them a pepper spray shower?

idk, seems things like carrying them away would be an option well before "shake can, point, spray in face from close range".

anyways, sad the occupy movement is starting to be defined and covered as a occupy v. police situation instead of a occupy v. big biz corruption platform.

lets face it, im pretty pissed i got to work for 30 years and pay my bank 750k for a 200k loan. it shouldnt be this hard to just make ends meet and squeek through life.

Re: 'Occupy' types
 

[quote=over the mountain;862108]couldnt the cops have just plastic tied their arms behind their backs then carried them off one at a time?

yeah know, like they pretty much did right after giving them a pepper spray shower?

idk, seems things like carrying them away would be an option well before "shake can, point, spray in face from close range".

anyways, sad the occupy movement is starting to be defined and covered as a occupy v. police situation instead of a occupy v. big biz corruption platform.

lets face it, im pretty pissed i got to work for 30 years and pay my bank 750k for a 200k loan. it shouldnt be this hard to just make ends meet and squeek through life.[/quote]

What the hell kind of mortgage do you have? Not sure what I would do if I was not working. Probably become a drunk lazy ass.

Re: 'Occupy' types
 

[quote=over the mountain;862108]couldnt the cops have just plastic tied their arms behind their backs then carried them off one at a time?

yeah know, like they pretty much did right after giving them a pepper spray shower?

idk, seems things like carrying them away would be an option well before "shake can, point, spray in face from close range".

anyways, sad the occupy movement is starting to be defined and covered as a occupy v. police situation instead of a occupy v. big biz corruption platform.

lets face it, im pretty pissed i got to work for 30 years and pay my bank 750k for a 200k loan. it shouldnt be this hard to just make ends meet and squeek through life.[/quote]
Their training, for their own protection, teaches them to "disable and disband/disperse". Not "try to disband, get attacked, get hurt or have to kill someone, chaos ensues,...

The protesters were asked and warned...I am no police apologist but in most of these cases they acted appropriately. There are many ways for the protesters to do their protesting just as effectively and comply with the appropriate local laws...in some cases they are choosing not to and suffering the consequences.