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[quote=DynamiteRave;1059706]Looks like D Hall and the Redskins reached a contract deal. 4 years.

Can't find the link yet. Got the text on my phone.[/quote]

4 yr deal approx $5M per

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Started a new thread. Figured it was thread worthy. I know people are going to lose their shit over the price tag.

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Not sure if I like giving him 4 years, but I am glad we resigned him. I remember last year many WP members were in favor of letting him go, and then he had a good season. Hopefully he continues to play well.

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[quote=Defensewins;1059625]Your post IS factual. It is great to hear from someone that understands how to play LB. The majority of others only measure LB's by sacks, regardless of how bad a LB does not comply with his other positional responsibilities. Setting an edge against the run, containment, pass coverage, interceptions are just as important as sacks. What good is a sack or 10 if you are not holding your position down.
Orakpo is a one trick pony IMO (pass rush and only one pass rush move) and played well at the end of last season because he is playing for a contract. He has missed a TON of time due to injury and he got hurt again last season.
He is not worth a big salary cap hit. We can do better.
I am a former LB and watching Orakpo play is frustrating to watch because he has holes in his game. He is selfish. He goes for the sack rather than reading a play. Orakpo is not a good LB, he is a small DE playing LB. He does not have the mental ability to play LB.
The only argument GTripp has is pass rush and that is it.
As Seattle and SF (the two best teams in the by far) proved, is as much as the powers that be want the NFL to be a passing league, come playoffs and Superbowl, run the ball/be balanced and play lights out defense and you will win. Sacks and passing stats are the sexy stats and they sell newspapers, but running the ball and defense wins championships.
Given Dan Snyder's reputation as an NFL owner, the last thing we need to do is over pay for a player that has holes in his game. If we can Orakpo for cheap, great, keep him. Orakpo will not come for cheap. Let him walk.[/quote]

Pretty much disagree with everything here.

-He's been consistently productive his entire career, not just in a contract year.

-He missed one season out of five due to injury.

-He's a better all around LB than some fans give him credit for and he's improved in coverage. He's also solid vs the run.

-If we don't lock him up there will be plenty of teams more than willing to get their hands on him long term.

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[quote=Mattyk;1059734]Pretty much disagree with everything here.

-He's been consistently productive his entire career, not just in a contract year.

-He missed one season out of five due to injury.

-He's a better all around LB than some fans give him credit for and he's improved in coverage. He's also solid vs the run.

-If we don't lock him up there will be plenty of teams more than willing to get their hands on him long term.[/quote]

Bad value. Orakpo is on a 3-13 team. This not the time for a team in this position to overpay an decent rush LB, his pass coverage may have improved but it was terrible
Let another team sign him, it's time to move on from this experiment, he's an undersized rush end.
He was injured the season before the year he missed, and in that previous year his pectoral was partially torn for half the year and was largely ineffective.

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what game are you guys watching on sunday? orakpo is a top tier FA, and franchise QBs, LTs, and elite pass rushers don't get onto the market often.

check his sack % (sack per pass rush attempt), it's good, even with doubles.

peyton manning was on a 1-15 team, obviously they should have cut him on the spot, cause it's impossible for anyone to be a good player on a bad team.

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[QUOTE=whistler;1059751]Bad value. Orakpo is on a 3-13 team. This not the time for a team in this position to overpay an decent rush LB, his pass coverage may have improved but it was terrible

Let another team sign him, it's time to move on from this experiment, he's an undersized rush end.

He was injured the season before the year he missed, and in that previous year his pectoral was partially torn for half the year and was largely ineffective.[/QUOTE]


This injury thing with him is tiring.

This is what really happened. He got injured in week 17 of 2011, re-injured it in week 2 of 2012. He missed 14 games in 2012. Outside of that he's missed just 2 other games.

He's made multiple Pro Bowls, safe to say LB is not just an experiment.

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1963661-washington-redskins-cant-let-brian-orakpo-go]Washington Redskins Can't Let Brian Orakpo Go | Bleacher Report[/url]

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Good teams keep players like Brian Orakpo.

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[quote=Mattyk;1059756]This injury thing with him is tiring.

This is what really happened. He got injured in week 17 of 2011, re-injured it in week 2 of 2012. He missed 14 games in 2012. Outside of that he's missed just 2 other games.

He's made multiple Pro Bowls, safe to say LB is not just an experiment.

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1963661-washington-redskins-cant-let-brian-orakpo-go]Washington Redskins Can't Let Brian Orakpo Go | Bleacher Report[/url][/quote]

Well said. There are 31 other teams in the league who would love to have an "experiment" at LB like Brian Orakpo. Re-signing him is an absolute necessity. Any argument to the contrary is crazy in my opinion.

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Orakpo is going to 1) get a long term deal -OR- 2) get the franchise tag. He will not be on another squad this season. I guar-on-tee it. I heard on the radio this morning that the skins and orakpo's people have been pass dollar amount back and forth to find a common ground. It will happen, just takes time.

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^ He'll get tagged to give us more time to work on the extension.

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there's no way we can let him walk, so if no deal, of course the tag.

Bye, Fred.

What a waste of talent. Indefinitely suspended? Wow.....

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[quote=RedskinRat;1059853]Bye, Fred.

What a waste of talent. Indefinitely suspended? Wow.....

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Definition of a loser. Davis is the type of player that makes fans hate athletes. So much talent, so many opportunities, so much unfulfilled promise. I usually shy away from making personal assessments but dude is just a complete loser. I can't think of another word to describe him with.

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[quote=SkinzzFan;1059787]Well said. There are 31 other teams in the league who would love to have an "experiment" at LB like Brian Orakpo. Re-signing him is an absolute necessity. Any argument to the contrary is crazy in my opinion.[/quote]

The skins only have 30 mil in cap space and have numerous needs, If orakpo can be had for 6-7 mil per, that'll allow them to fill some holes maybe but, LBs are usually the heart of special teams and it'll limit them in quality depth, the thing that they've been needing.
He's really not a good value at that number. Hopefully the skins will realize that he's not a top shelf LB and let him walk if he wants more than 7 mil,