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[quote=Rotten1980;1098308]Totes meaningless. Players said same about Shanahan while here, and that story changed the minute he left the building. It will be the same with Gruden.[/quote]

Not at all. Players were stating their dislike for Shanahan well before he got canned. I will say I agree with you that you will hear players state their disdain for Gruden. Nobody will ever please everyone

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1096989]I don't want him to be one and done. I want to see what he can do when he has legit weapons and depth at most positions.

Although if we could get a proven winner and a coach who KNOWS what type of atmosphere they're entering into once they set foot in Redskins Park and what they're working with, I would not be opposed to ousting him.[/quote]

At this point no up and coming coaching candidate or GM is going to want to come here. Why do you think Zorn got the gig? Nobody wanted to come here. It'll be the same story when Grudens fired (whether its this year orwhenever).

The only coaches we'll get is guys who nobody else wanted or who obviously aren't HC material. Mainly Snyder will want to hire puppets. Some poor SOB who wants to be a coach so badly he'll go with whatever the big wig wants even if he knows better until he gets sacked and we go through the whole thing again.

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1096999]But who would be a legitimate GM choice at this point?[/quote]Scott Pioli and John Schneider, just to name a couple.

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[quote=Bishop Hammer;1098337]At this point no up and coming coaching candidate or GM is going to want to come here. Why do you think Zorn got the gig? Nobody wanted to come here. It'll be the same story when Grudens fired (whether its this year orwhenever).

The only coaches we'll get is guys who nobody else wanted or who obviously aren't HC material. Mainly Snyder will want to hire puppets. Some poor SOB who wants to be a coach so badly he'll go with whatever the big wig wants even if he knows better until he gets sacked and we go through the whole thing again.[/quote]

Go ahead and change your nMe to Debbie Downer. There would have been a ton of coaches who would have taken over Gibbs team. Double G was the maiden in waiting but they effed that up. There would have been others too. And there'll be good candidates after Gruden too.

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Prick

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000440256/article/jeff-fisher-trolls-redskins-during-opening-coin-toss]Jeff Fisher trolls Redskins during opening coin toss - NFL.com[/url]

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[quote=SouperMeister;1098339]Scott Pioli and John Schneider, just to name a couple.[/quote]

Pioli would be my choice with bruce as the team prez.

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[quote=SouperMeister;1098339]Scott Pioli and John Schneider, just to name a couple.[/quote]

I thought Pioli didn't do that well in KC when he left the Patriots. Things only got better there when Reid showed up.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1098345]I thought Pioli didn't do that well in KC when he left the Patriots. Things only got better there when Reid showed up.[/quote]

Reid took over a ton of talent Pioli drafted/signed. He would be huge upgrade over what we have, but we also need the coaching upgrade. It's all doable.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1098303]Bruce wanted David Shaw.
[B]Dan wanted Jon Gruden.[/B]

They settled for Jay.[/quote]

Seems to me the more reason for Gruden to make RG3 work.

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IMO We don't want Pioli. There are many stories of his paranoia and weird behavior in KC, such as bugging the offices of others, etc. Maybe none of the stories are true but perhaps where there is smoke...

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1098341]Prick

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000440256/article/jeff-fisher-trolls-redskins-during-opening-coin-toss]Jeff Fisher trolls Redskins during opening coin toss - NFL.com[/url][/quote]

I don't know, i think it is kind of funny

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Bill Polan

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[quote=Defensewins;1097762]Since our team has been so good and winning consistently before Gruden arrived, clearly Gruden is the problem.
Snyder and the FO has done an exceptional job in getting us such incredible talent in the last 14-15 years Snyder has owned the team and they have never broken rules or been penalized. So it is not them. Consistently a playoff team during the 14 years.
Plus add the the fact the RGIII has never had a problem with other coaches in his 3 years in the NFL. There was a love affair with the last coaching staff. RGIII's play on the field that last two years has been incredible MVP like and he is an Iron Man when it comes to injuries. He is very humble and welcomes criticism, very evident in the post game press conference where he has never blamed his teammates. He works so hard that his footwork and technique is Hall of Fame level. Top notch!
So clearly Gruden who has been here 8 month (?) is the problem.........
Plus there are so many excellent coaches that are dieing to come work here. They'll just show up with a magic playbook, call the right plays and we will win again.[/quote]

LMAO! Thats the best answer ever for the RG3 Gruden debate.

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Again nothing matters because Dan is the owner! Idc if fucking Vince Lombardi (rip)
was the HC and bill Parcells was the gm we would still suck ass. Dan literally has cursed the franchise

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We weren't that good before Snyder took over either.