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htownskinfan 12-15-2014 01:37 PM

Re: RG3 and Gruden?
 
[quote=Mattyk;1099892]Best he's looked since Minnesota. Still inconsistent though. A couple of the sacks were on him, but when Trent went out the line fell apart and gave up 3 sacks that I don't think you can pin on him.[/quote]

Ok thanks

drew54 12-15-2014 02:05 PM

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[quote=Rotten1980;1099927]Giving up on RG now would be incredibly stupid. He needs to be coached up and given better protection.

I'm [B][I][U]almost[/U][/I][/B] thinking we should draft offensive tackle with first pick. How long since we had bookend tackles? Samuels and Jansen. I remember those days fondly.[/quote]

Almost? Nothing would be wiser unless they can trade if for three 1s and a 2nd.

SirLK26 12-15-2014 02:10 PM

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[quote=punch it in;1099817]How about when he had 37 open wr's running around that the entire effin world saw except for him? Thats not normal. Thats not something that "every" qb does. That is amateur hour at the effin apollo.[/quote]

[IMG]http://i1.wp.com/hail22.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/McCoy-missed-touchdown-1b.png?resize=750%2C410[/IMG]

Explanation: this QB had two receivers open in the end zone for a quick TD and never even looked their way. Instead, he throws to a covered Young in the flat and the pass is incomplete.

Question: who is this QB?

Hint: it's not Griffin.

Lotus 12-15-2014 02:15 PM

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Our first score should have offered RGIII a positive learning feedback loop. He played within the offense rather than freelancing. He got the ball out quick. And we scored.

IMO his fundamentals fell off after that. But if he focuses on that drive, Griffin has a chance to gain comfort and confidence as a pocket QB.

punch it in 12-15-2014 02:57 PM

RG3 and Gruden?
 
[QUOTE=SirLK26;1099939][IMG]http://i1.wp.com/hail22.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/McCoy-missed-touchdown-1b.png?resize=750%2C410[/IMG]



Explanation: this QB had two receivers open in the end zone for a quick TD and never even looked their way. Instead, he throws to a covered Young in the flat and the pass is incomplete.



Question: who is this QB?



Hint: it's not Griffin.[/QUOTE]


I didnt say any of our quarterbacks were all that and a bag of chips.
Edit : when I said every QB, I meant every Starter. There are plenty of QB's that do not make it in the league as starters that do this. Thats probably why they are back ups.
Before you find a pic of a great qb doing this, it is only a problem if it's consistent.

skinsfan69 12-15-2014 03:09 PM

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[quote=SirLK26;1099939][IMG]http://i1.wp.com/hail22.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/McCoy-missed-touchdown-1b.png?resize=750%2C410[/IMG]

Explanation: this QB had two receivers open in the end zone for a quick TD and never even looked their way. Instead, he throws to a covered Young in the flat and the pass is incomplete.

Question: who is this QB?

Hint: it's not Griffin.[/quote]

So what's your point? McCoy isn't the long term QB for this franchise. Griffin was suppose to be that guy

punch it in 12-15-2014 03:10 PM

Re: RG3 and Gruden?
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1099956]So what's your point? McCoy isn't the long term QB for this franchise. Griffin was suppose to be that guy[/QUOTE]


Exactly

Chico23231 12-15-2014 03:20 PM

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rg3 starting this week

sdskinsfan2001 12-15-2014 03:24 PM

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Fix the offensive line first then blame the quarterbacks. Good teams and good qbs typically have at least fairly strong offensive lines. We have Trent and a bunch of dumpster fires up front.

REDSKINS4ever 12-15-2014 03:29 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1099961]Fix the offensive line first then blame the quarterbacks. Good teams and good qbs typically have at least fairly strong offensive lines. We have Trent and a bunch of dumpster fires up front.[/quote]

Agreed upon! The whole offense, including the play calling is underachieving because of this diarrhea offensive line!

sdskinsfan2001 12-15-2014 03:31 PM

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For a franchise that had The Hogs and won Super Bowls it sure is dumbfounding that the team never puts enough focus on either lines. And the guys we do draft don't ever seem to improve.

Please get a real general manager and let him hire an all new scouting department. Please!!!!

skinsfan69 12-15-2014 03:36 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1099959]rg3 starting this week[/quote]

Good for him. I expect more of the same. He'll look good on a few drives, then he'll have a couple wr's running wide open and not throw them the ball. Or throw a WR screen 5 feet over the wr's head. But I'd rather have him out there then an injured McCoy.

skinsfan69 12-15-2014 03:37 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1099966]For a franchise that had The Hogs and won Super Bowls it sure is dumbfounding that the team never puts enough focus on either lines. And the guys we do draft don't ever seem to improve.

Please get a real general manager and let him hire an all new scouting department. Please!!!![/quote]

They've put focus on the o-line. It's just that the players they're bringing in aren't good enough.

Chico23231 12-15-2014 03:43 PM

Re: RG3 and Gruden?
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1099967]Good for him. I expect more of the same. He'll look good on a few drives, then he'll have a couple wr's running wide open and not throw them the ball. Or throw a WR screen 5 feet over the wr's head. But I'd rather have him out there then an injured McCoy.[/quote]

We are beating Philly Sunday.

sdskinsfan2001 12-15-2014 03:49 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1099968]They've put focus on the o-line. It's just that the players they're bringing in aren't good enough.[/quote]

I mentioned that in my post in regards to a new gm/scouting team.


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