Re: New Defensive Coordinator 2015
 

[quote=Ruhskins;1104821]You should really take a look at that thread about Phillips interviewing.
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Maybe I just missed those idiots or maybe tuned them out. Didn't see any hate on Twitter, but maybe I tuned those fools out too.

Re: New Defensive Coordinator 2015
 

[quote=Ruhskins;1104814]Redskins fan logic:

Wade Phillip interview: HELL NO, he's soft, too much of a nice guy!. His son is coaching with the team!. This is another good ol' boy hire! We need new blood!! Blah blah blah!!

Raheem Morris interview: F*CK NO!! His secondary sucked!!! He didn't develop anyone!!! This is another Bruce Allen hire!!!

Joe Barry hire: WTF??!!! His defense in Detroit 8 years ago sucked!! This is another Bruce Allen hire!!! Why are we the only team that hires people that are known to the team FO??!!! WE'RE DOOOOMMMEEEEDDDD!!![/quote]

lol ... true, true. Based on my 40+ years of fandom and my complete powerlessness to affect any change, I am reluctantly with the wait and see crowd at this point. My burgundy colored glasses, however, have become pretty faded over the last few years. Call me jaded, but the dysfunction and past mismanagement of this team has just beaten me down.

As in the past, I truly hope that assumptions of the apocalypse are sorely misplaced. Given the many red flags (BA Tampa connection, Barry's poor performance in Detroit - even if many years ago - and his lack of DC experience since, and the many experienced DC's with solid resumes available), however, it is hard for me to be excited about the hire. It seems to me that, when I have hoped folks were wrong to assume the worst, the prophetic vision of the Cassandras was recognized only after things had gone to hell.

At this point in my fandom, why should I expect folks are wrong to assume the worst this time from this team with this hire? Anyone? ... Anyone?

Re: New Defensive Coordinator 2015
 

Why don't people give Barry a chance instead of panicking? Belicheck and many others bombed on the first gig as coach or coordinator.

Re: New Defensive Coordinator 2015
 

[quote=NC_Skins;1104824]Maybe I just missed those idiots or maybe tuned them out. Didn't see any hate on Twitter, but maybe I tuned those fools out too.[/quote]

Some people said that Phillips would have been the "good ol' boy" hire (which the whole concept is ridiculous) and that he wasn't a tough DC.

Everything that I'm reading about Barry in San Diego (where he's been for the past three/four years) looks good. I'm willing to give him a chance.

Re: New Defensive Coordinator 2015
 

[quote=Ruhskins;1104821]So we should focus on what coaches did 8 years ago and not what they've done recently? Okay.[/quote]

You're right! I mean, just because he had a great interview and worked in Tampa with BA many years ago, the Skins wouldn't hire a journeyman assistant coach who was an abysmal failure in his one attempt at leading a defense without some consistent stellar work in recent years on his resume to counterbalance it. Let's look at Barry's resume as a DC at the pro level in the last five years and compare it some of the other candidates who were mentioned ...

Damn, I can't seem to find it. I know it's around here somewhere. ... Are you hiding it from us Ruhskins? You clever boy!

Re: New Defensive Coordinator 2015
 

[quote=SFREDSKIN;1104826]Why don't people give Barry a chance instead of panicking? Belicheck and many others bombed on the first gig as coach or coordinator.[/quote]

Not panicking -- just not particularly optimistic. As always, I will hope that the naysayers are once again wrong.

Re: New Defensive Coordinator 2015
 

This wasn't the best hire but I'm willing to see what happens. Maraneli sure coached up the Dallas defense this year. He was the head coach that year Detroit went 0-16. Did that mean he can't coach. Nope. I'm more concerned about getting better players. It doesn't matter who's coaching, we need better talent. I think the next question is are we going back to the 4-3?

Re: New Defensive Coordinator 2015
 

[quote=JoeRedskin;1104828]You're right! I mean, just because he had a great interview and worked in Tampa with BA many years ago, the Skins wouldn't hire a journeyman assistant coach who was an abysmal failure in his one attempt at leading a defense without some consistent stellar work in recent years on his resume to counterbalance it. Let's look at Barry's resume as a DC at the pro level in the last five years and compare it some of the other candidates who were mentioned ...

Damn, I can't seem to find it. I know it's around here somewhere. ... Are you hiding it from us Ruhskins? You clever boy![/quote]

I'm hiding it, and you're not getting it. LOL.

Re: New Defensive Coordinator 2015
 

Hmmm... I think I'm ok with this choice.
I think this guy can start a whole new deal here in Washington.
Other than the Lions thing he has a resume that should have given him a lot of experience and outlook.
I'll certainly take this over Haslett.

Re: New Defensive Coordinator 2015
 

There is nothing confirming this on ESPN or other major networks. Might not be the case.

As for dry snitching, a good way to catch an informant is to put information out you know to be false to a specific person and see where it goes.....

Not saying management is that smart, would be nice though. I fully expect Barry is correct.

Re: New Defensive Coordinator 2015
 

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000458722/article/redskins-to-tap-joe-barry-as-defensive-coordinator]Redskins to tap Joe Barry as defensive coordinator - NFL.com[/url]

Re: New Defensive Coordinator 2015
 

John Keim ‏@john_keim

A note on Barry's Lions tenure (more later, if/when)... of 11 starters on '08 squad, 7 were out of the NFL w/in 2 years, 4 after '08 season

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1104792]Rich Tandler ‏@Rich_TandlerCSN 8m8 minutes ago

Not sure why Barry is automatically an Allen hire. Worked with Gruden for many years in TB, perhaps left a good impression?[/QUOTE]


Could come recommended from Jon.

Re: New Defensive Coordinator 2015
 

[quote=Alvin Walton;1104841][url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000458722/article/redskins-to-tap-joe-barry-as-defensive-coordinator]Redskins to tap Joe Barry as defensive coordinator - NFL.com[/url][/quote]

Sooo...of the interviewed candidates:

Wade Phillips
Ed Donatell
Ken Norton Jr
Raheem Morris
Joe Barry

others available: Dick LeBeau, were interested in Fangio, Schwartz was available

They chose Joe Barry? Hey, who knows Berry might be great the second time around as DC but is he more qualified then the other available candidates?

Re: New Defensive Coordinator 2015
 

[quote=SFREDSKIN;1104843]John Keim ‏@john_keim

A note on Barry's Lions tenure (more later, if/when)... of 11 starters on '08 squad, 7 were out of the NFL w/in 2 years, 4 after '08 season[/quote]

I wanted Haslett gone, but that was the situation here also.