Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=MTK;1150975]I'm looking at how he's improved since weeks 1 and 2 and taking into account what he did last year as well.

Hoyer or Cutler?? Get the F outta here.[/quote]

Yea really.

The bigger point is we can win with him now and he is only going to get better. Those guy aren't winners.

If Kirk had a defense and the offense was balanced to support him we would be a perennial playoff contender vying for the conference, much less the division.

Having to score more than 30 a game to win is tough.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=htownskinfan;1150973]At what rate? 2 bad games then 2 good games? At that rate I hope he's getting paid somewhere else,we can pick up Brian Hoyer or Jay Cutler for a whole lot less for a inconsistent mediocre qb.
Now if he can go on a run like last year then it's a different ballgame,but drawing conclusions after 4 games is .......[/quote]

Simply put, some of us have more faith in Kirk than you do. That's all there is to it, actually. [I]Regardless of fans like me who believe in Kirk, you're going to get what you want because the Redskins brass are going to evaluate him based on his play this entire season (and other factors) before attempting to sign him to a long-term contract.[/I] That's what the Franchise tag was all about.

The decision that the Redskins make about Kirk will only be about whether or not they should go forward with Kirk as their starting QB. By that I mean, the only question is[I] "Once the team has been built around KC[/I], can the Redskins win a Super Bowl with him as their starting QB?". It's not about the money because SM has made it clear that the Skins will be willing to pay fair market value to get the QB they want. Also, Kirk doesn't need to be a future All-Pro or Top 10 QB for the answer to the Big Question to be "Yes".

At his point, what you seem to be attempting to do is to convince people like me who have more faith in Kirk than you do to have less faith in him until we see his full season body of work. You should try to understand that it's not as if those of us who already believe in Kirk don't realize that he might fail - we do. Still, in my case, I don't choose to temper my enthusiasm about Kirk's future. It's more fun for me that way.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

I think cousins was really pressing the first couple games...I'm gonna let him settle down and play out the rest of the season

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=MTK;1150975]I'm looking at how he's improved since weeks 1 and 2 and taking into account what he did last year as well.

Hoyer or Cutler?? Get the F outta here.[/quote]

I see where you're coming from,if he continues on that path he has for the last 2 games then its all well and good,but if not then he's no better than those I mentioned.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1150979]Simply put, some of us have more faith in Kirk than you do. That's all there is to it, actually. [I]Regardless of fans like me who believe in Kirk, you're going to get what you want because the Redskins brass are going to evaluate him based on his play this entire season (and other factors) before attempting to sign him to a long-term contract.[/I] That's what the Franchise tag was all about.

The decision that the Redskins make about Kirk will only be about whether or not they should go forward with Kirk as their starting QB. By that I mean, the only question is[I] "Once the team has been built around KC[/I], can the Redskins win a Super Bowl with him as their starting QB?". It's not about the money because SM has made it clear that the Skins will be willing to pay fair market value to get the QB they want. Also, Kirk doesn't need to be a future All-Pro or Top 10 QB for the answer to the Big Question to be "Yes".

At his point, what you seem to be attempting to do is to convince people like me who have more faith in Kirk than you do to have less faith in him until we see his full season body of work. You should try to understand that it's not as if those of us who already believe in Kirk don't realize that he might fail - we do. Still, in my case, I don't choose to temper my enthusiasm about Kirk's future. It's more fun for me that way.[/quote]

Excellent post.
Your right,I dont have as much faith in Kirk as some,but I want Kirk to succeed as much as anybody.But my recent postings was just about people saying pay Kirk and bringing up stats after 4 games,way too premature for that.
And even in his run last year he still had some clunkers,I mean how does he lose to Dallas on MNF to a backup thats not even in the league anymore? And that goes for this yr too? Dak not only showed more poise in that game but in the 4 games I've seen Dak play he's showed me more poise then Cousins has in 5 years.
2 examples,the Philly game last yr when he kneeled down before the half to ruin our chances for a score,then this year when Jay opted to try and score with 5 or 6 seconds left{fucking terrible coaching} and Kirk held onto the ball and took a sack instead of throwing it away.That gentlemen does not show grace under pressure.
In my book Kirk still has a lot to prove and hopefully he will because it's going to be on his shoulders with this defense and our shitty coaches he has a lot to overcome.
But if Kirk continues at his inconsistent play why pay him? Look what Dak and Wentz have done this year,we can always draft another QB :laughing-:devil:

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Just curious, you a Mississippi state fan? You love some dak. 😄

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

I'm a big Kirk Cousins fan, I have been his fan since he arrived here in Washington, and while my earlier posts this season suggested that he still has an interception problem, and at some point may or may not be benched for McCoy, I still think Cousins is an average QB, and I feel that in this league, that is enough to win football games.

I have compared him this year to other QB's like Eli Manning, who are interception prone at times, and to be fair, Eli is a Super Bowl QB who has thrown in his career 298 TDs to 203 INTS, which seems very "Cousins Like" if Cousins has as long as a career as Eli.

The problem I think, that others have pointed out, is that the Defense is so bad that Cousins and company will have to produce upwards of 30 points a game for us to have a shot at winning. We will likely finish the season at 8-8, possibly worse than that, and for that reason alone, Cousins is going to be shipped off to somewhere else where he most likely will have a supporting cast around him and he will look like a star. I have said since they failed to reach a deal, that the Skins have soured on Cousins because he refused their initial offer, gave him the franchise tag because they knew they had no other option at QB this year, and they know that this coming offseason, he will be someone else's problem.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1150987]Just curious, you a Mississippi state fan? You love some dak. 😄[/quote]

LOL no but I do think the kid is special.From the moment he's stepped on the field he looked comfortable,he doesnt look like anything fazes him,and on top of that he has all the skills to be very good.And believe me that bothers the shit out of me,I'm surrounded by Dallas fans,so just when I get giddy about Romo going down this kid has to pop up,but even before Romo went down I thought Dallas would get by just fine with this kid.Damnit why couldnt they have drafted Manziel?!:mad:

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Long way to go this season but he's been sort of disappointing. Maybe I was expecting more from him. He's just had some absolute stupid ass plays this year that he shouldn't be making....the backbreaking int against Dallas, the bonehead play to end the half, stupid sacks, he can clean that shit up. Hopefully he will.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1150998]Long way to go this season but he's been sort of disappointing. Maybe I was expecting more from him. He's just had some absolute stupid ass plays this year that he shouldn't be making....the backbreaking int against Dallas, the bonehead play to end the half, stupid sacks, he can clean that shit up. Hopefully he will.[/quote]

Thats just who Kirk is as a football player. He is going to dazzle you for half of the game and then play horrible for the other half. I feel like up and down is what you are going to get from him no matter what.

But we could still win alot of games with him if the defense wasn't so bad and he didn't have to be asked to do as much as he's doing now because we are always behind and we have no running game...

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During this 3 game win streak he's completed 69% of his throws for 739 yards, 6 TDs, 3 INTs... with two road wins against the 2-0 Giants and the 3-1 Ravens. So WTF are people still complaining about??

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[quote=MTK;1151611]During this 3 game win streak he's completed 69% of his throws for 739 yards, 6 TDs, 3 INTs... with two road wins against the 2-0 Giants and the 3-1 Ravens. So WTF are people still complaining about??[/quote]

QB's are going to throw picks. Most of us know that as knowledgeable football fans. But is it me or do Kirk picks always seem to be backbreakers.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[QUOTE=MTK;1151611]During this 3 game win streak he's completed 69% of his throws for 739 yards, 6 TDs, 3 INTs... with two road wins against the 2-0 Giants and the 3-1 Ravens. So WTF are people still complaining about??[/QUOTE]
"He can't beat a winning team" remember matt? So now it's the "he is lucky to win those games " at the end of the season he'll have 4500 yards 28 tds or so and 12 ints.. 65% percentage. He's going to be fine.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

The deal with Cousins is He has A lot of time to throw and maybe the best WR/TEcombo in the league. the down is no running game,iffy play calling and his knack for making the bad throw/interception . I can understand if he were being harassed from the pocket but it seems he plays better when he is hurried..go figure. And then you see ROOKIE QB's having a lot of success on other teams and it makes you wonder about Cousins..Hopefully by the end of this season we will know what we have in Cousins.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1151617]QB's are going to throw picks. Most of us know that as knowledgeable football fans. But is it me or do Kirk picks always seem to be backbreakers.[/QUOTE]


To me backbreakers usually end up with losses, not 3 game streaks with 2 road wins. His pick yesterday was as harmless as they get because of the fumble.