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At least when the game starts off bad Kirk makes adjustments to avoid the pressure and get rid of the ball quickly---something Robert failed to do!!!! GOOD LUCK CAPTAIN KIRK---MAY YOU BEAM US UP MANY WINS! :httr:

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[quote=Chico23231;1119269]We all agree it's been determined rg3 is not the future, so there is no way we ever want him to see the field bc of the risk of 16 mil injury possibility.

We all agree we don't rg3 to sabotage 16 million of cap space?[/quote]It seems many fans along with J are of the mindset you express above.

The flip side, which I'm sure is hard for you to see, is that while Griff isn't a fit for J that doesn't mean he's not a fit in another offense. And IF that is true then it would be a mistake to get rid of Griffin IF J (the reason Griff is gone) fails.

By keeping Griffin the team hedges against a J-Kirk failure.

The 5th year option is still an issue but outside of the money (which can be massaged) getting rid of Griff doesn't bring any gain on the football field.

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[quote=30gut;1119343]It seems many fans along with J are of the mindset you express above.

The flip side, which I'm sure is hard for you to see, is that while Griff isn't a fit for J that doesn't mean he's not a fit in another offense. And IF that is true then it would be a mistake to get rid of Griffin IF J (the reason Griff is gone) fails.

By keeping Griffin the team hedges against a J-Kirk failure.

[B]The 5th year option is still an issue but outside of the money (which can be massaged) getting rid of Griff doesn't bring any gain on the football field.[/B][/quote]

But getting rid of Griff would keep Cousins from looking over his shoulder and remove a message that perhaps the organization lacks confidence in Kirk?

BTW does anyone else think the reason they kept Griffin is that they think that Jerrah Jones might pick Griff up if he was cut....sounds like a Jerry Jones move and Jones would enjoy sticking it to Snyder if he somehow managed to turn RGIII into a good QB!!! And after all who do the Cowboys have as a backup and successor to Romo---Weeden certainly is not their answer! Just a thought!

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[quote=JGR81;1119344]But getting rid of Griff would keep Cousins from looking over his shoulder and remove a message that perhaps the organization lacks confidence in Kirk?

BTW does anyone else think the reason they kept Griffin is that they think that Jerrah Jones might pick Griff up if he was cut....sounds like a Jerry Jones move and Jones would enjoy sticking it to Snyder if he somehow managed to turn RGIII into a good QB!!! And after all who do the Cowboys have as a backup and successor to Romo---Weedon certainly is not there answer! Just a thought![/quote]

If you cant handle having a backup QB behind you that might possibly push you, then you cannot handle being a QB in the NFL. If Kirk is worried about RG3, then the Kirk experiment is already a failure. This was the same thing that was said about RG3 when they drafted Kirk.

As for Jerry Jones, him and DS get along fairly well. I dont see Jerry taking RG3 as a way to screw with DS. If he picks him up, it will be because he thinks he still has something left. To me, the main one to worry about is the Eagles if we are going strictly on NFC east teams.

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[QUOTE=JGR81;1119344]But getting rid of Griff would keep Cousins from looking over his shoulder and remove a message that perhaps the organization lacks confidence in Kirk?[/QUOTE]

And that is what I am worried about...that there will be enormous pressure on Kirk to try to be perfect in every game. Also as soon as Kirk has a bad game, Dan Snyder will be pushing for RG3 to take over as the starter.


[QUOTE=JGR81;1119344]BTW does anyone else think the reason they kept Griffin is that they think that Jerrah Jones might pick Griff up if he was cut....sounds like a Jerry Jones move and Jones would enjoy sticking it to Snyder if he somehow managed to turn RGIII into a good QB!!! And after all who do the Cowboys have as a backup and successor to Romo---Weedon certainly is not there answer! Just a thought![/QUOTE]

That may actually be a possibility...and I agree that it would just be like Jerry Jones to sign RG3, just to piss off Dan Snyder.

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[quote=kct1975;1119347]And that is what I am worried about...that there will be enormous pressure on Kirk to try to be perfect in every game. Also as soon as Kirk has a bad game, Dan Snyder will be pushing for RG3 to take over as the starter.




That may actually be a possibility...and I agree that it would just be like Jerry Jones to sign RG3, just to piss off Dan Snyder.[/quote]

Plus, Jerrah likes the razzle dazzle and don't forget he wanted Johnny Manziel but cooler heads prevailed and Stephen Jones won out and the Cowboys ended up with a much needed OL instead....but still Jerry likes the flash and dash plays and would love the attention if he managed to turn Griffin around....

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1118537]My wife works here. (Cousins video)
:joecool:

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5FVEZ5jR-I[/url][/quote]

Thanks for sharing!

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If we.cut.him I'd worry more about philly picking him up... It's a fast, quick read and throw offense in which I think he'd flourish in... And we don't want to face that two times a year

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[QUOTE=Meks;1119355]If we.cut.him I'd worry more about philly picking him up... It's a fast, quick read and throw offense in which I think he'd flourish in... And we don't want to face that two times a year[/QUOTE]


Been saying this since training camp started, chip Kelly is lurking and waiting. This is his dream qb prototype.

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[quote=30gut;1119343]It seems many fans along with J are of the mindset you express above.

The flip side, which I'm sure is hard for you to see, is that while Griff isn't a fit for J that doesn't mean he's not a fit in another offense. And IF that is true then it would be a mistake to get rid of Griffin IF J (the reason Griff is gone) fails.

By keeping Griffin the team hedges against a J-Kirk failure.

The 5th year option is still an issut outside of the money (which can be massaged) getting rid of Griff doesn't bring any gain on the football field.[/quote]

What NFL offense can he run at this point? If you're in your 4th year and and you're still struggling with adjusting protections and can't consistently play from the pocket then it doesn't matter what system is ran. Then factor in the injury history. Griffin is mostly likely done in the NFL within 1 or 2 years.

He should not sniff the field here and the Redskins were stupid fools to pick up that option.

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[quote=kingj;1119357]Been saying this since training camp started, chip Kelly is lurking and waiting. This is his dream qb prototype.[/quote]

SMH...Griffin will not beat out Sam Bradford. Never. He may not beat out Sanchez for 2nd string.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1119360]What NFL offense can he run at this point? If you're in your 4th year and and you're still struggling with adjusting protections and can't consistently play from the pocket then it doesn't matter what system is ran. Then factor in the injury history. Griffin is mostly likely done in the NFL within 1 or 2 years.





He should not sniff the field here and the Redskins were stupid fools to pick up that option.[/QUOTE]



It amazing some people still believe Griff will be a good QB in the league.

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[quote=30gut;1119343]It seems many fans along with J are of the mindset you express above.

The flip side, which I'm sure is hard for you to see, is that while Griff isn't a fit for J that doesn't mean he's not a fit in another offense. And IF that is true then it would be a mistake to get rid of Griffin IF J (the reason Griff is gone) fails.

By keeping Griffin the team hedges against a J-Kirk failure.

The 5th year option is still an issue but outside of the money (which can be massaged) getting rid of Griff doesn't bring any gain on the football field.[/quote]

Why would a team build an entire offense around a guy that is as durable as a faberge egg, has become incredibly one dimensional, and has shown no progress in 3 years?

Kyle Shanahan did that already. Griffin broke, and the rest is history.

Now, after completely revamping personnel and coaching staff he can't adapt.

It's basically employing the exact opposite strategy Seattle build their depth and thus success with . Year after year they kept getting younger and deeper.

They also kept plugging in one QB after another until they found a gem in Wilson.

If I understand you correctly, you're advocating continually changing coaches, systems, and possibly personnel; all to accommodate the diminishing skill set of one player who had 1 good year?

Or, at least be willing to change all that if Kirk doesn't work out?

Wouldn't it be quicker, more cost effective, and ultimately more successful to just copy Seattle?

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1119361]SMH...Griffin will not beat out Sam Bradford. Never. He may not beat out Sanchez for 2nd string.[/QUOTE]


Smh what? I never said he beats out Bradford. I don't think Bradford can stay healthy so yeah chip would totally want rg3 to run that offense. We all know that's what he's good at, never will be a pocket passer.

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1119363]...If I understand you correctly, you're advocating continually changing coaches, systems, and possibly personnel; all to accommodate the diminishing skill set of one player who had 1 good year?[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't be surprised if that is the way that Dan Synder thinks.