Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

[quote=jsarno;472397]I actually did it on purpose, then I thought no one would get it, so I editted it. hahaha.

So where is the college pickem quake?[/quote]

i will start 1 tomorrow j spread too

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

[quote=dmvskinzfan08;472429]Zorns play calling sucked. The receivers were not getting open that's why JC was throwing underneath. Poor clock management by Zorn. Defense steppd up in the second half. This shows why we needed out rookie WRs to have been ready to play also. This is one of the shittiest offense performances I have ever seen. JC didn't play great at all. But he didn't turn over the ball. [B]These were bad play calls.[/B] PERIOD.[/quote]


I agree 100%. I know its early and you don't want to overreact to 1 game but Zorn look like a Deer caught in the Headlights.

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

[quote=MiraclesHappen07;472438]well not so sure, i mean sure play calling was shitty, [B]but campbell should get some good bulk of the blame[/B]. On one than more times he held the ball way to long, he been like this his whole career!! i mean if he hasnt learned on how to get rid of it quick and dont second guess so damn much then how are we gona be succeful on offense? If he keeps this hestiance ill gurantee you he will not be here next year, or atleast not or starte..[/quote]

I didn't see many receivers open during the game at all.

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;472441]i will start 1 tomorrow j spread too[/quote]

cool...PM me, and I'll join.

I'm taking you down this year!

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

Jim Zorn was a bitch tonight. Jason Campbell was a bitch tonight. Jason Campbell was such a huge bitch tonight.

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

[quote=Redskin Warrior;472443]I didn't see many receivers open during the game at all.[/quote]

still he could of thrown it away, hey im not saying the recievers did their part, because by all means they shouldve caught some easy passes

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

[quote=MiraclesHappen07;472446]still he could of thrown it away, hey im not saying the recievers did their part, because by all means they shouldve caught some easy passes[/quote]

I believe he got sacked once, and didn't turn the ball over he played decent.

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

Our defense was lights out after those first few scores. Also, I'm not sure the offense could have converted any of those dropped INTs anyway... it's going to take some time for this system to gel- Campbell and the wideouts will get better timing and we'll see less of these passes short of the marker on 3rd downs. Portis was a mad man tonight... loved seeing that monster block in the third quarter.

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

im watching jim zorns press confrence and i understand some what by how they managed the clock at the end there, but still come on, if you cant make up that kind of decision then what you doing as head coach? i love ya zorn, but damn man

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

[quote=MiraclesHappen07;472446]still he could of thrown it away, hey im not saying the recievers did their part, because by all means they shouldve caught some easy passes[/quote]

But our receiving group was supposed to be improved during the offseason and it is not. I think they need to step it up as well. Granted at the beginning when JC was pressure it wasn't on them, but they dropped passes and were not getting open when JC had time to throw. I'm not defending JC, he needs to do his adjustment, but the receivers were not helping and this area has been identified as an area of problem in our offense.

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

1 sack tonight, and it was on JC -- but he saved the OL a lot of embarassment as well.

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

[quote=Skinz4life;472442] Zorn look like a Deer caught in the Headlights.[/quote]

As did Gibbs in his first game. And his second, and his third...

Zorn did look like a deer in the headlights, he also looked like a guy coaching his first game in a hostile stadium against the defending champs. I'm alright with it.

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

[quote=dmvskinzfan08;472429]Zorns play calling sucked. The receivers were not getting open that's why JC was throwing underneath. Poor clock management by Zorn. Defense steppd up in the second half. This shows why we needed out rookie WRs to have been ready to play also. This is one of the shittiest offense performances I have ever seen. JC didn't play great at all. But he didn't turn over the ball. [B]These were bad play calls.[/B] PERIOD.[/quote]

with 5 minutes left why the [EMAIL="f@%"]f@%[/EMAIL]* were we running the ball?? can i get some passes and some decent clock management?

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

My observations are that Campbell is still learning this offense, holds on to the ball too long sometimes. We should activate and play Fred Davis, I think that would help our passing offense, not having Springs hurt. Too many dropped balls by our DB's, couldn't stop Jacobs or Burress. Hopefully during the 10 days off they can adjust the 2 minute offense plus no huddle. We have to involve Devin Thomas and hopefully Kelly and work on stopping the run.

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

[quote=GTripp0012;472452]1 sack tonight, and it was on JC -- but he saved the OL a lot of embarassment as well.[/quote]

I 2nd that statement we had to put Cooley on the line and block all game he have one catch for what 7 the o-line was owned once again.

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

[quote=Coff;472453][B]As did Gibbs in his first game. And his second, and his third...[/B]

Zorn did look like a deer in the headlights, he also looked like a guy coaching his first game in a hostile stadium against the defending champs. I'm alright with it.[/quote]

Let's just pray that Zorn turns out to be half the Coach Joe Gibbs was.

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

[quote=Ruhskins;472451]But our receiving group was supposed to be improved during the offseason and it is not. I think they need to step it up as well. Granted at the beginning when JC was pressure it wasn't on them, but they dropped passes and were not getting open when JC had time to throw. I'm not defending JC, he needs to do his adjustment, but the receivers were not helping and this area has been identified as an area of problem in our offense.[/quote]

i know, like i said before im not saying the recievers were perfect, im just talking about campbell right now, tommrow ill probaly start on the them lol. But one thing though hasnt our reveiver corp always been a big issue the last few years?

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

take out the first two giant series, and i felt the game was doable. i still hold my excitement for the year, but i want the skins to win so bad. i will hold out hope.
finally, does anyone else think billy mitchell on comcast is awfully negative!
plus did anyone else notice devon thomas' catch he looked sharp.

10 more days!

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

[quote=SFREDSKIN;472457]My observations are that Campbell is still learning this offense, holds on to the ball too long sometimes. We should activate and play Fred Davis, I think that would help our passing offense, not having Springs hurt. Too many dropped balls by our DB's, couldn't stop Jacobs or Burress. Hopefully during the 10 days off they can adjust the 2 minute offense plus no huddle. We have to involve Devin Thomas and hopefully Kelly and work on stopping the run.[/quote]

i totally agree, finally someone else who says devin need to involved more, i mean for someone who is supposed to the future he only saw the freaking feild twice on offense..

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

Did anyone else feel that Mike Sellers wasn't used enough. I would have like to see him used more like Gibbs used him like an extra Offensive lineman.

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

[quote=MiraclesHappen07;472464]i totally agree, finally someone else who says devin need to involved more, i mean for someone who is supposed to the future he only saw the freaking feild twice on offense..[/quote]

A few things I forgot, when passing on 3rd, go beyond the line of scrimmage for the 1st down, not behind. Antonio Pierce is a FUCKING PUNK!! I hate that guy.

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

Campbell played much better in the 2nd half, and if it weren't for drop passes, running short routs (*cough*Thomas*cough*) and the fact that we were behind, things would have looked much better. I think Zorn needs to focus on the run as a way to develop the pass. He should have noticed that once Portis started to run the ball, the passes opportunities were there. All the pundits were saying that the Redskins needed to do a good job running the ball, instead the team went pass happy and Campbell got harrassed and sacked.

I must say that I'm not that concerneda about the defense if they become healthy. They were without Springs, then Smoot, and Taylor was not 100% and they still held the Giants to just one TD and three field goals. Given on the offense was performing, the defense would have easily given up another three TDs.

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

When I heard Jerry Jones was very pissed when we took Colt I didn't think much of it. Now I think JC needs to sit. I love this team, but that was more than embarssing. That was horrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible. I know it's just the first game but damn that JC guy looked like a joke.

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

[quote=MiraclesHappen07;472464]i totally agree, finally someone else who says devin need to involved more, i mean for someone who is supposed to the future he only saw the freaking feild twice on offense..[/quote]

Devin & Malcolm have great talent but their preseason didn't help them and if the vets having caught onto the offense why would they?

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

[quote=SFREDSKIN;472467]A few things I forgot, when passing on 3rd, go beyond the line of scrimmage for the 1st down, not behind. Antonio Pierce is a FUCKING PUNK!! I hate that guy.[/quote]

i agree

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

[quote=rstone1979;472455]with 5 minutes left why the f@%* were we running the ball?? can i get some passes and some decent clock management?[/quote]

I'm 100% with you on that....things got to improve a lot against the Saints

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

[quote=Redskin Warrior;472470]Devin & Malcolm have great talent but their preseason didn't help them and if the vets having caught onto the offense why would they?[/quote]

im not saying they have caught on already, but having them on the feild and actually having playing time will help in their development to learn this offense

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

[quote=wilsowilso;472469]When I heard Jerry Jones was very pissed when we took Colt I didn't think much of it. Now I think JC needs to sit. I love this team, but that was more than embarssing. That was horrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible. [B]I know it's just the first game but damn that JC guy looked like a joke.[/B][/quote]

I respect everyones opinion but I don't think we watched the same game tonite

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

[quote=wilsowilso;472469]When I heard Jerry Jones was very pissed when we took Colt I didn't think much of it. Now I think JC needs to sit. I love this team, but that was more than embarssing. That was horrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible. I know it's just the first game but damn that JC guy looked like a joke.[/quote]

Ok you Colt Brennan ppl need to shut the hell up.

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

I felt the game tonight was a poor excuse for a NFL game. Other then the Giants first drive this game reminded me of a high school football game. I know there will be growing pains as we all saw tonight but it's still frustrating as hell.

Bad managing of the clock, we didn't seem to pass enough (wondering if Campbell is truly trusted yet), Campbell holds the ball way to long, seemed like every pass completion was on Smoot.

Again it's the first game and a new coach and new offense. Hopefully, things will get better. :)

[quote=Ruhskins;472479]Ok you Colt Brennan ppl need to shut the hell up.[/quote]

I agree completely.

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

well im going to bed and try to sleep ths over, an hope it dont get me down for the rest of the NFL opening weekend=] NIght! everyone!

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

[quote=Ruhskins;472479]Ok you Colt Brennan ppl need to shut the hell up.[/quote]

why? i havent joined the colt bandwagon like some other people,but if zorn would have stuck him in at some point in the second half I wouldnt have been unhappy with the descision,unlike every other frickin one he made tonite

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

[quote=htownskinfan;472489]why? i havent joined the colt bandwagon like some other people,but if zorn would have stuck him in at some point in the second half I wouldnt have been unhappy with the descision,unlike every other frickin one he made tonite[/quote]

Zorn can stick Colt when we're 0-4, ok? In the second half JC played better when the o-line gave him time and when the WRs weren't dropping the ball. That bomb that Moss missed was partly Moss' fault b/c he stopped. Moss also dropped a short pass, and when JC had time to pass there were no receivers open. I'm not saying JC was perfect, but he adjusted in the second half. Unfortunately we were behind and our 2:00 minute drill play calling sucks. The team needs to get its act together, but we shouldn't throw in the towel, that's just stupid.

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

[quote=mredskins;472416]How about if the WR actual ran past the first down marker? Just a thought.[/quote]

Yeah ...you would think that would be a no-brainer....BUT, I'd counted at least 8 times we threw way short on 3rd. and long situations.

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

JC and Carlos Rogers need to get on the same f@cking bus out of town! I swear if I keep hearing all the JC and Rogers excuses I might just JUMP OFF A FUCKIN BRIDGE!

Second - our O line and D line need to improve, and I think it was a BAD idea to have Taylor out there not 100%

Third – Coach your team, Zorn. Don’t run the damn ball over and over when it doesn’t work, even if Portis tells you to!!!

Landry - THANK YOU for trying to save the game and make plays.

Cooley - sorry dude.. drop your love for JC.. he's a mess.

Moss - nice try, catch the ball EVERY TIME, even if it's not a good throw.

.. We suck.. and I'm going to bed... wake me when Collins is QB again.

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

[quote=hesscl34;472504]JC and Carlos Rogers need to get on the same f@cking bus out of town! I swear if I keep hearing all the JC and Rogers excuses I might just JUMP OFF AN FUCKIN BRIDGE!

Second - our O line and D line need to improve, and I think it was a BAD idea to have Taylor out there not 100%

Third – Coach your team, Zorn. Don’t run the damn ball over and over when it doesn’t work, even if Portis tells you to!!!

Landry - THANK YOU for trying to save the game and make plays.

Cooley - sorry dude.. drop your love for JC.. he's a mess.

Moss - nice try, catch the ball EVERY TIME, even if it's not a good throw.

.. We suck.. and I'm going to bed... wake me when Collins is QB again.[/quote]

So ur not known for your patience, right? LOL.

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

[quote=hesscl34;472504]JC and Carlos Rogers need to get on the same f@cking bus out of town! I swear if I keep hearing all the JC and Rogers excuses I might just JUMP OFF AN FUCKIN BRIDGE!

Second - our O line and D line need to improve, and I think it was a BAD idea to have Taylor out there not 100%

Third – Coach your team, Zorn. Don’t run the damn ball over and over when it doesn’t work, even if Portis tells you to!!!

Landry - THANK YOU for trying to save the game and make plays.

Cooley - sorry dude.. drop your love for JC.. he's a mess.

Moss - nice try, catch the ball EVERY TIME, even if it's not a good throw.

.. We suck.. and I'm going to bed... wake me when Collins is QB again.[/quote]

lol ..good night

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

[quote=Ruhskins;472497]Zorn can stick Colt when we're 0-4, ok? In the second half JC played better when the o-line gave him time and when the WRs weren't dropping the ball. That bomb that Moss missed was partly Moss' fault b/c he stopped. Moss also dropped a short pass, and when JC had time to pass there were no receivers open. I'm not saying JC was perfect, but he adjusted in the second half. Unfortunately we were behind and our 2:00 minute drill play calling sucks. The team needs to get its act together, but we shouldn't throw in the towel, that's just stupid.[/quote]

Agreed. By what standards could anyone say Cambell had a bad game? 15 for 27, 133 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT's, and an 81.3 passer in his first game with a new offense against one of the nastiest defenses in the league? Cmon, if we're going to criticizing, how bout Cooley? Where was he tonight, except for when he was getting bowled over when blocking the rush? Perhaps his thoughts were on his next blog and how he's going to spend more of that big old signing bonus he wrote so much about.

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

a loss hurts, and i think campbell bears the burden for the offense, he is the QB, BUT for a first regular season game under Zorn, i think it was ok. the defense held even after smoot game out, Campbell was over 50%, and we have 15 games left to go

Re: Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08
 

[quote=Coff;472517]Agreed. By what standards could anyone say Cambell had a bad game? 15 for 27, 133 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT's, and an 81.3 passer in his first game with a new offense against one of the nastiest defenses in the league? Cmon, if we're going to criticizing, how bout Cooley? Where was he tonight, except for when he was getting bowled over when blocking the rush? Perhaps his thoughts were on his next blog and how he's going to spend more of that big old signing bonus he wrote so much about.[/quote]

Are you serious?? I mean really?? Stand JC up next to any other NFL
QB out there right now and tell me how much better he is DURING GAME TIME, and screw the f*cking numbers. That first throw Portis was hanging there middle field wide open and he never even looked, not once did he turn his head.. he was just lookin for Moss.. never even turned left.. and I saw it all night long. Last drive Randal El was WIDE open and he chose to throw deep to moss and Randal El had a straight shot into th endzone. He didn't even look. If I were Zorn I'd be beating my head against a wall trying to figure out how the hell to bench his ass and now get fired.. what a f*cking mess!

OK.. now I'm going to bed.. God Help the Skins!