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[quote=SkinzWin;770358]Welcome to the Warpath juskins![/quote]


Good to be here, and thank you.

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[quote=Beemnseven;770322]How freaking hard is it to understand that Shanahan didn't have enough draft picks to fix the offensive line overnight? Shanahan spent the highest draft pick he had on the most important position on the line. He brought in a mix of veteran free agents for the rest of the positions, and shuffled guys around sometimes due to injury, other times due to poor performance to find out what works best.

Obviously the coaches saw things on film from McNabb which caused them to believe he wasn't making the right decisions despite protection from the line. And to be fair -- the protection up front has been better at times this year. It's amazing to hear so many fans so livid over the benching of a guy who hasn't played well.

And I wouldn't say McNabb is a lock for the Hall of Fame.[/quote]

you are missing my point. I didn't expect the offensive line to be fixed in one season. I made a point to say its been overlooked for the better part of 10 years. You made my point exactly, we continue to bring in FA's and mix match olineman every year instead of addressing the needs through the draft over the last few years. The coaches bringing McNabb into the mix this year should have been evaluated before bringing him hear then saying he isn't a right fit. I mean the guy has been in the league for 11 years, dont you think there is enough information on McNabb to make that decision before wasting a 2nd and 4th round draft picks? It isn't a coinsodence(SP) the QB play here has been suspect over the last 10 years when the common denominator in the equation has been the horrible offensive line. I didn't nor do I think the oline is fixable in 1 year, it needs a few drafts to get this thing in order. Every year our QB's are sacked, hit, hurried as much or more than any QB in the league. To place the blame on a QB every year is getting old. I mean, Campbell seems to be playing pretty decent in Oakland with a decent oline and a decent running game. They are winning games against division rivals and in the hunt for a playoff berth.
I am not blaming Shanny for everything, however how he has handled certain situations is suspect at best.

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One thing that kinda irks me... Let's not act like it's all roses for JC out in Oakland, he's been yanked in and out of the lineup several times this year and hasn't exactly cemented his status as their long term answer.

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[quote=Mattyk;770367]One thing that kinda irks me... Let's not act like it's all roses for JC out in Oakland, he's been yanked in and out of the lineup several times this year and hasn't exactly cemented his status as their long term answer.[/quote]

[url=http://www.nfl.com/players/jasoncampbell/profile?id=CAM375235]Jason Campbell, QB for the Oakland Raiders at NFL.com[/url]

JC hasn't played bad Matt, yes it helps to have DMC and Bush in the backfield but I give him props the guy is a fighter and has played great the last 2 games. I say he's their guy again next season

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;770357]PER ADAM S....................... Now that the Redskins are officially eliminated from playoffs, trade comp for McNabb is complete. Eagels will get Redskins 2011 4th-rd pick.[/quote]

not bad

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;770357]PER ADAM S....................... Now that the Redskins are officially eliminated from playoffs, trade comp for McNabb is complete. Eagels will get Redskins 2011 4th-rd pick.[/quote]

Maybe I'm thinking pie in the sky but I'd be slightly surprised if we aren't able to get a 4th from Miami, Minnesota, Arizona or even Tennessee for McNabb limiting our exposure to the 2010 2nd round pick.

Clearly we're going to draft a QB in the 1st round and Shanny is hoping Rex can be a 2011 stopgap. As we get away from the shock of the move, it's an organizationally responsible move to make, especially since they've already decided that McNabb isn't our future. As the NFL-N guys were saying, it's also put up or shut up time for Kyle. If his system and the offense works better with a guy who isn't considered by anyone as a 'good' QB then with a handpicked 1st round pick it should be dynamite.

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[quote=SmootSmack;770346]While this board is all about sharing and respectfully debating opinions, there are some members of this board whose opinion merits much less courtesy than others, particularly when they say things like this

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The O-Line has made great improvements from years past. I see their down falls from a combination of placing guys in situations that they cannot progress beyond the linesman's natural abilities.

I wonder if Rabach and Brown fit in the above assessment. They both are physical and good man-on man type players, but can they move fast enough to play in this scheme. Most of the pieces are there and I am sure they will fine tuned this offensive line to the scheme's liking. Coaches keep their jobs because they know from experience what works for their brand of football.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;770373][URL="http://www.nfl.com/players/jasoncampbell/profile?id=CAM375235"]Jason Campbell, QB for the Oakland Raiders at NFL.com[/URL]

JC hasn't played bad Matt, yes it helps to have DMC and Bush in the backfield but I give him props the guy is a fighter and has played great the last 2 games. I say he's their guy again next season[/quote]

Not saying he's played bad, but he's been up and down and hasn't exactly locked down the starting job there. He's gone back and forth with Gradkoswki.

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^ pat jones is on Okc radio here and he said he believes the raiders will cut grad and make a push for kolb, he used to coach in Oakland and knows al very well so he's usually right on when it comes to Oakland. As for JC we all know how inconsistent he is and I guarantee you most of the fans on this board who say we should have kept him are full of shit.

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Using Jason as an example of a former Skins QB getting screwed is non-sense. Why even visit that nightmare? This is a find example of how players fit with certain offenses and not with others.

I wish Campbell well and hope he sticks with Oakland. Just glad he is not our problem any more.

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[quote=$xxyRxxy;769797]Yay bitches! We're bringin' Rexy back!!!!! Take it to the endzone! That is all[/quote]

Like I said. All he needed was the opportunity

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Rex i thought today played pretty well for a guy who essentially hasnt started in 3 years. I think that if Rex can keep playing well, then he could be the QB solution for the next 2 to 3 years while a young QB is groomed for the future.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;770836]Rex i thought today played pretty well for a guy who essentially hasnt started in 3 years. [B]I think that if Rex can keep playing well, then he could be the QB solution for the next 2 to 3 years [/B]while a young QB is groomed for the future.[/quote]

That's the million dollar Question.. I don't know about 2-3 years but 1 year yes

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Yeah I'll go with 1, at the most 2 years.