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[QUOTE=12thMan;275512]That's just cruel, dude:([/QUOTE]
What? Too soon?

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[quote=#56fanatic;275499]being fans of our team gives us the right to complain or complement them on what they do. Jumping ship to another team.....come on are you serious. We all will root for our team year end and year out. unfortunately, we have been rooting for a losing team more than a winning team. All I think we are saying is until this trade picks for (fill in the blank) mentality stops or slows down, people will be frustraded. Not frustrated enough to jump ship, but frustrated to say the least. I live in NC, and I can tell you they have jumped ship to the Panthers down here (I can't stand the Panthers, they are #2 or #3 on my hate list) Most of the comments are they dont like Snyder (which I do like Snyder) or the way they run the team, blah..blah..blah.
I just have not seen a team win consistantly with our approach. If you know of one, please point them out. It hasn't worked in 7 or 8 years. I think that would send a message to the powers that be that they may need to change their strategy.[/quote]

It ain't easy being an innovator. Be it right or be it wrong, because Joe2 hasn't gotten it totally right does not mean he won't or can't.
Going the same way as everybody else generally does not produce success. As somebody else pointed out earlier, there are a bunch of other teams that utilize the draft religiously, and generally suck. To suggest that the Colts, Pats, etc are successful primarily as a result of this philosophy is ridiculous.
I would much prefer to be led by a football genius than a merry-go-round coach (passed from team to team) that the NFL has so many of. Joe2 is that genius.
I personally have complete faith he can do it again. Because he has to date, not yet attained his and our goals is evidence of.................nothing

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I keep hearing the Redskins philosophy is not working???? Maybe its not working on the field, but let us not forget this is a business and The Washington Redskins are the most profitable NFL franchise. If this BUSINESS is about profitability, then Snyder has nailed it.

I know, if they continue to lose people will walk on. Guess what, they haven't had a winning streak but 2 times in the last 15 years and they continue to prove their business model attracts the almighty fans dollar!

I don't like the way things are going in the FO, but from a business perspective it is spot on and wish I owned a little piece!

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven;275488]People will always point to Chris Cooley. He's a good player, might even be a great player someday. Problem is, he was a 2 for 1 deal. Losing a 2nd rounder for Rocky McIntosh? As far as we know, that wasn't a smart deal. If he suddenly turns it around and becomes the next Antonio Pierce, fine. But can we say with any certainty that's going to happen?[/QUOTE]

There are no guarantees in the draft. Tell me the best team in the league at the draft, and I'll pick ten absolute busts they've had in the last five years. We can't say [B]with certainty[/B] that any rookie is going to be good.

Chris Cooley had an off year last year - like the whole team did. Still he managed to score more TDs than all but three Tight Ends in the league.

Everyone who's giving up on Rocky McIntosh should strongly reconsider that as well. This is the same defensive staff that refused to start Sean Taylor at first, and he might just be OK. Holding him up to Pierce is an unfair benchmark.

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[quote=Defensewins;275483]Is that supposed to be good or bad? I don't get your point?

The only measure that matters is win/loss. I don't care if we get our players from the waiver wire. Just win baby.[/quote]But in the event that you don't win, like this year, you then have to diagnose the problem.

Did we lose 11 games this year because we forgot to build though the draft? Of course not, that'd be a ridiculous theroy. We lost because the defense regressed to epic proportions, partially due to questionable roster moves, partially due to things that no one could have predicted.

Obviously, trading all of our picks is going to hurt our ability to rebuild cheaply in the future, but thats it.

Cowherd's just being an ass again, I wouldn't put too much stock into this.

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part of the reason is Gibbs wants to win, and wants to win now. They're not worried about building for the future, he knows he won't be here long and that becomes a necessity. The same goes for every other coach because DC is a very impatient market. I think our next coach we will hire will be GWilliams and he'll be given some time by Snyder to get the franchise running via a draft, I also think Snyder won't give him control of the front office. With Cerrato already forced to the side Gibbs leaving would be the perfect way to get a GM in and I have a feeling Snyder may just do that.

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[quote=Mattyk72;275491]Same old, same old.

Sorry but for anyone who is sick of this current front office stategy the only thing I can recommend is to stop following the team, because with so little draft picks this year how else do you think they are going to approach this offseason? Get ready for more of the same.[/quote]I would be more than satisfied if they went into 2008 with their first 4 picks. It's not like we have to stop signing guys who can help this team, we just need to cut it with the mass restructurings. No pun intended.

Also, if we are going to continue this current strategy, it forces us to keep Lloyd and Archuleta on the roster. Personally, I don't see a problem with having extra talent on the roster even if they are being way overpaid, but others do. We just can't afford to make these cuts AND restructure a bunch of deals AND sign more FAs.

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS;275508]What about Kenard Lang?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that's right. Don't know how I forgot him.

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Schneed has pointed out several times that we CAN indeed cut some dead weight such as AA or Lloyd, and still be able to make moves in free agency and the draft without it being a major problem.

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When in doubt check our draft history page

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-draft.htm[/url]

For years now the Skins haven't placed much emphasis on drafting along the DL. Not sure why but that's how things have played out.

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[QUOTE=jbcjr14;275515]I keep hearing the Redskins philosophy is not working???? Maybe its not working on the field, but let us not forget this is a business and The Washington Redskins are the most profitable NFL franchise. If this BUSINESS is about profitability, then Snyder has nailed it.

I know, if they continue to lose people will walk on. Guess what, they haven't had a winning streak but 2 times in the last 15 years and they continue to prove their business model attracts the almighty fans dollar!

I don't like the way things are going in the FO, but from a business perspective it is spot on and wish I owned a little piece![/QUOTE]

The Redskins financial success does in part have to do with Snyder’s smart business moves, but more of it to do with the wealth of the DC market and Jack Kent Cooke building his stadium.
The DC area is one of the wealthiest NFL markets in the entire country. The DC area is not Green Bay or Detroit. Snyder did not polish a turd. I credit Snyder with taking one of the top NFL franchises and increased it’s revenues in new and creative ways. But the majority of the increase in revenue came from the new 80K to 90K seat stadium and increased ticket prices that the DC area can easily absorb. The wait list for season tickets before JKC stadium was 30 years long.

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[quote=Mattyk72;275526]Schneed has pointed out several times that we CAN indeed cut some dead weight such as AA or Lloyd, and still be able to make moves in free agency and the draft without it being a major problem.[/quote]I really, really think Schneed is underestimating the cost of signing 20 players who are currently not signed for 2008 against the 2008 cap. If we have to restructure 20-25 million of veteran salary just to get under the cap in 2008 with no major FA signings (which is what he is suggesting), thats 20-25 million that is completely unrecoverable in years 2009-2011. It's going to build up quick.

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G, I don't know if your right or Schneed. I do know that every year about this time does the entire media world proclaim the "sky is falling" for the Skins. Salary cap HELL, etc. To date, Dan Snyder has proved them................well, you get it.

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[quote=Hog1;275541]G, I don't know if your right or Schneed. I do know that every year about this time does the entire media world proclaim the "sky is falling" for the Skins. Salary cap HELL, etc. To date, Dan Snyder has proved them................well, you get it.[/quote]The sky isn't really falling, and Scheed's point that we [U]can[/U] create a lot of cap room for 2008 is correct. The key is at this point in time, we only have about 25 or so guys rostered for 2008 and beyond, half the amount needed to field a team. We are already within 8 million of the projected salary cap, and will likely be over it after this year's draft and FA season, and I only expect us to add 6-7 players. So the question becomes how much restructuring is necessary to get 20 additional players under the cap. If we make mass cuts, the downside is obvious, but if we make mass restructurings, 2009s cap situation will be twice as difficult as 2008.

If we stop restructuring contracts now, we can stay out of cap hell with little cost. (This means we cut players like Wynn, Fauria, John Hall and maybe Todd Collins) If we continue to push $10 million plus of guarenteed into the next seasons, we will eventually hit a wall, maybe as soon as next season.

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If it was up to me, I would stop the buck right here and right now (coming off a 5-11 season), but we can keep these guys together for next year (restructuring), make one more run, and bite the bullet in 2008. If this organization chooses this path, and continues to try to restructure their way out of these problems in 2008 like idiots, there will be no talent on this team come 2009.