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You know, try as people might to make this into an "it's just a name" issue, it is what it is. Offensive. From the Native American people I've run across, every one said the same thing. They are offended by it. One guy even went as far as to say " it's like You hearing about the New York N-----." I thought that was an interesting take on it seeing as how I am an African American male. If they had to change it, what would they change it to?

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[quote=hooskins;279386][URL="http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:o5w_sD-3LeIJ:www.annenbergpublicpolicycenter.org/naes/2004_03_redskins_09-24_pr.pdf+Washington+Redskins+survey+native+americans+name&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a"]Annenberg Public Policy Center 1 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE DATE: September 24, 2004 CONTACT:[/URL]

[FONT=Times][SIZE=3][FONT=Times][B]Most Indians Say [B]Name[/B] of [B]Washington[/B] “[B]Redskins[/B]” Is Acceptable [/B][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][FONT=Times][B]While 9 Percent Call It Offensive, Annenberg Data Show [/B][/FONT][/SIZE]
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Yeah, I've read that before. I really don't see the name changing...

I read some article by Bill Nye the science guy a while back... and he said he felt the name was offensive and wanted to help get it changed... kinda random.

F... Bill Nye.

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[QUOTE=Crat92;279394]You know, try as people might to make this into an "it's just a name" issue, it is what it is. Offensive. From the Native American people I've run across, every one said the same thing. They are offended by it. One guy even went as far as to say " it's like You hearing about the New York N-----." I thought that was an interesting take on it seeing as how I am an African American male. If they had to change it, what would they change it to?[/QUOTE]

I've heard a lot of people equate to that term and I think it's hard to understand because there is such a disconnect between most people and Native American history, myself included. I have no idea how offensive the term is. However, when I do hear say people say things like that, it makes me think maybe changing the name wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.

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[quote=jdlea;279397]I've heard a lot of people equate to that term and I think it's hard to understand because there is such a disconnect between most people and Native American history, myself included. I have no idea how offensive the term is. However, when I do hear say people say things like that, it makes me think maybe [B]changing the name wouldn't be the worst thing in the world[/B].[/quote]
It's a friggin football team. Would anyone honestly not be able to wake up and cheer for our team if they weren't called the "redskins".?

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well i guess if they had to change the name because of some little group, who does NOT represent the majority of American Indians, we could call them the Washington PC ass-kissers. We could have a burg. & gold pair of ass kissing lips on the helment.

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[QUOTE=RobH4413;279402]It's a friggin football team. Would anyone honestly not be able to wake up and cheer for our team if they weren't called the "redskins".?[/QUOTE]

That's what i'm trying to say.

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Call them the Redskins and then just get rid of all native american logos...

that solves it.

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Or how about

Washington Skins and remove all association to native americans.

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Or we could leave it the way it is and tell everyone who doesnt like it to go to h*ll

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[quote=RobH4413;279402]It's a friggin football team. Would anyone honestly not be able to wake up and cheer for our team if they weren't called the "redskins".?[/quote]


Well actually, i would never stop calling them the Redskins regardless of what happens. And why should it even be considered? Seriously, if their was a overwhelming majority in favor of change, well thats hard to fight. Im not in favor of doing something just for the sake of being pc, its gotta have some real powerful, majority backing to it.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;279409]Or we could leave it the way it is and tell everyone who doesnt like it to go to h*ll[/quote]

I agree with that as well.

But if we have no other options I think those are the two best alternatives.

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Freedom of speach, plain and simple. Well if they take Redskins away we can change our name to Black skins and see who we offend there.

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Regardless... it's not changing. Snyder has too much money and too good of lawyers for that shit to change.

I really don't care either way. It obviously doesn't offend that many people, and you can't appease everyone. To be honest your probably offending more people by changing it then by leaving it alone.

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[QUOTE=jdlea;279301]I know, I know, we've covered this a million times. However, tonight the Illinois Illini intend to retire their mascot, Chief Illiniwek (a chief in stereotypical Native American garb).[/QUOTE]

Maybe the U. of Illinois should spend less time concerned about some dude dancing at halftime and more time dealing with things like [URL="http://cbs2chicago.com/local/local_story_051143642.html"]this[/URL]

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you know, we had some serious pc bullshit decision here at William and Mary, being forced to remove their Feathers!! thats right I said f e a t h e r s. The nickname is the 'Tribe'. really, is that offensive? But florida can still do all their antics, which I dont find offensive either. Oh brother, what is going on here........