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stu_nna 03-13-2007 07:28 PM

Re: McIntosh Vs. Marshall
 
[quote=BeastsoftheNFCeast;287563]I believe that Marshall will start, I want McIntosh to but he definately did not prove to be a starter last year backing up warrick holdman. There has got to be some issues when you are the backup to holdman. I hope he will be a stud, but my gut tells me otherwise.[/quote]
Considering the fact that Dale Lindsey has never been satisfied with any linebacker play, i don't think its fair to judge McIntosh off his rookie campain. There was no chance Lindsey would start him over Holdman, regardless of his performance on the practice field.

89moss89 03-13-2007 09:28 PM

Re: McIntosh Vs. Marshall
 
I am in no way saying that he will be another Monte Colmen but wouldn't it be great if Marshall would turn into a Colmen type do everything super sub for the Redskins.

Beemnseven 03-13-2007 09:43 PM

Re: McIntosh Vs. Marshall
 
[QUOTE=89moss89;287591]I am in no way saying that he will be another Monte Colmen but wouldn't it be great if Marshall would turn into a Colmen type do everything super sub for the Redskins.[/QUOTE]

To have that type of return, we would have to have drafted Rocky in the equivalent of the 11th round of the draft -- where Monte Coleman was taken -- 289th overall. Can you believe that?

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-13-2007 09:52 PM

Re: McIntosh Vs. Marshall
 
[quote=stu_nna;287572]Considering the fact that Dale Lindsey has never been satisfied with any linebacker play, i don't think its fair to judge McIntosh off his rookie campain. There was no chance Lindsey would start him over Holdman, regardless of his performance on the practice field.[/quote]


and that kind of stupid thinking is exactly why he is no longer with the team and as for our linebacker situation i see marshall starting the first 2 or 3 games and then rocky will emerge (he better seeing all what we gave up for that guy)

Redskins_P 03-13-2007 11:43 PM

Re: McIntosh Vs. Marshall
 
With Marshall's experience at WLB and MLB gives us great depth. Lets remember that Marshall had a decent year in 2005 and made some plays that helped us win some games.

I wouldn't write off Marshall yet. He played banged up last year and still did an alright job.

I think we have good depth at the LB position.

PorterHouse 03-14-2007 12:47 AM

Re: McIntosh Vs. Marshall
 
What about a linebacker by commitee situation?

Redskins8588 03-14-2007 12:49 AM

Re: McIntosh Vs. Marshall
 
[QUOTE=PorterHouse;287658]What about a linebacker by commitee situation?[/QUOTE]
Or would there be a chance that Williams will want to run some 3-4 packages during the a game???

chrisl4064 03-14-2007 04:02 AM

Re: McIntosh Vs. Marshall
 
ummm rocky macintosh is nowhere close to marshall. i see rocky on the bench for a while, maybe every now and then come in to give breathers.

i like rocky but i think we messed up going after him like we did.

marshall is a beast. bottom line.

That Guy 03-14-2007 07:55 AM

Re: McIntosh Vs. Marshall
 
marshall is not a beast, but he's serviceable when healthy and he can be good if the DL can protect him from getting washed out on blocks, which didn't happen last year.

dmek25 03-14-2007 08:04 AM

Re: McIntosh Vs. Marshall
 
[quote=That Guy;287674]marshall is not a beast, but he's serviceable when healthy and he can be good if the DL can protect him from getting washed out on blocks, which didn't happen last year.[/quote]
this is a good point. most productive linebackers have a very good front four keeping linemen from getting to them

chrisl4064 03-14-2007 08:23 AM

Re: McIntosh Vs. Marshall
 
[quote=That Guy;287674]marshall is not a beast, but he's serviceable when healthy and he can be good if the DL can protect him from getting washed out on blocks, which didn't happen last year.[/quote]



ok maybe not a beast, but he wont have his job taken by rocky.

Defensewins 03-14-2007 10:02 AM

Re: McIntosh Vs. Marshall
 
[QUOTE=That Guy;287674]marshall is not a beast, but he's serviceable when healthy and he can be good if the DL can protect him from getting washed out on blocks, which didn't happen last year.[/QUOTE]

That is true about any LB especially a MLB. Urlacher and R. Lewis had off years when their D-lines were bad. The same can be said about a RB and his O-line.

Marshall is more than serviceable and is currently or 2nd best LB. He is better then Rocky and he has proven that on the field. Our entire defense had an off year last year, that is not Marshalls fault.
He had a very good year the year before, but I guess that doesn't count in your estimation. I think you are basing your assesment only on last year.

That Guy 03-14-2007 10:17 AM

Re: McIntosh Vs. Marshall
 
[quote=Defensewins;287713]That is true about any LB especially a MLB. Urlacher and R. Lewis had off years when their D-lines were bad. The same can be said about a RB and his O-line.

Marshall is more than serviceable and is currently or 2nd best LB. He is better then Rocky and he has proven that on the field. Our entire defense had an off year last year, that is not Marshalls fault.
He had a very good year the year before, but I guess that doesn't count in your estimation. I think you are basing your assesment only on last year.[/quote]

where did i say that it didn't? you're making assumptions :P

he's not a top 5 MLB, but i already said rocky has shown us nothing to make me believe marshall won't be starting.

chrisl4064 03-15-2007 04:58 AM

Re: McIntosh Vs. Marshall
 
[quote=That Guy;287674]marshall is not a beast, but he's serviceable when healthy and he can be good if the DL can protect him from getting washed out on blocks, which didn't happen last year.[/quote]


i dont think you meant to put "servicable when healthy" which to me means "hes ok when hes not being sidelined with an injury"
he is always healthy, and in my opinion he did a very good job at middle linebacker considering we asked a lot of him to fill in when he was origionally an outside LB. i remember when there were people saying he didnt weigh enough to play MLB, he proved them wrong.

marshall is now going back to OLB where i think he will do better based on his size and speed, and hes a great tackler.

i dont think he gets enough respect personally.

That Guy 03-15-2007 07:47 AM

Re: McIntosh Vs. Marshall
 
[quote=chrisl4064;288015]i dont think you meant to put "servicable when healthy" which to me means "hes ok when hes not being sidelined with an injury"
he is always healthy, and in my opinion he did a very good job at middle linebacker considering we asked a lot of him to fill in when he was origionally an outside LB. i remember when there were people saying he didnt weigh enough to play MLB, he proved them wrong.

marshall is now going back to OLB where i think he will do better based on his size and speed, and hes a great tackler.

i dont think he gets enough respect personally.[/quote]

first, he had a leg injury last year, and it affected him, so he's not ALWAYS healthy.

second, i was one of the people that said he COULD play MLB and his weight wouldn't be a huge problem there.

third, as a starting OLB he had what? 47 tackles? brian urlacher and ray lewis are great tacklers, he's not bad, but a lot of guys like pierce etc etc had more.


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