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[quote=Beemnseven;303210]But at what cost? Especially considering linebacker isn't a huge need?[/quote]

I will take heat for this (if anyone even pays attention to my post) but I have come around on this trade. I actually am starting to think LB is a huge need (and Willis is a inside not an outside backer for those who want him, he could switch but who knows how that would go). I was just thinking of all the times that teams ran right at Warrick Holdman last year (and the year before) and he just got smoked. Obviously McIntosh wasn't all that much better or he would have been in there. I think having Briggs would actually go a long way towards shoring up the run D and would certainly be a lot more helpful that having Laundry. The issue is the cap hit more than anything else.

Here is the dream scenario, which will never happen, but we could dream.

Lance Briggs
#31 Pick
#37 Pick (which we traded to NYJ to move up and get McIntosh and Bears got for T. Jones)

for

Rocky McIntosh
#6 Pick

Then we could give up on Rocky, upgrade tremendously at WLB, and actually not lose anything because we would get the pick back that was given up to get McIntosh. Plus, we could get a DT or DE at #31. Think about this too, if you say WLB isn't a huge need, then why would you say DT is a huge need? Didn't Golston outperform McIntosh last year? Despite Rocky being a higher pick, wouldn't that make LB more imperative than DT? Marshall is ok as a #2, but no where near the player that Briggs is. Anyone ever consider that Briggs playing next to Urlacher actually made Urlacher better? Everyone loves that guy, but Briggs is a player pure and simple. I don't think this would be a bad move (depending upon the particulars) and have really come around on the idea.

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I'm starting to think that it may happen. Maybe McIntosh will be learning the Mike under Fltecher this season?
Also, for those of you that constantly throw out there that Lance Briggs only played well be cause he played next to Urlacher think about this. It was his second season that he broke out, that year he had 125 tackles and 1 pick. Urlacher was there for 9 games that year and that's when Briggs made his name. So having Urlacher there isn't what made him the player that he was IMO. Now granted he does have a top notch D-Line in front of him so I don't have anything for that. To simply say that it's because of Urlacher that he is who he is isn't a fair assesment to me.
From reading the article and thinking about this trade in my head, Washington really does hold all the cards in the deal. If Chicago is so hard pressed about shipping Briggs out then Washington can pretty much do what they did before and hit Chicago with a take it or leave it deal. If they can find a way to get another pick then I say do it. The only thing that concerns me is just how big of a contract are they talking about giving this guy?

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i we could get that trade that SC SKINS FAN said i think would make fans feel a little better about the situation because we would get the pick we traded to get mcintosh. but i just dont understand the redskins as an organization. if we dont value the draft or dont think these guys cant play right away why did we make a trade last year to get McIntosh if we are to just going trade him away this year.

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[quote=MonkFan4Life;303326][B]Now granted he does have a top notch D-Line in front of him so I don't have anything for that.[/B][/quote]

You hit on the biggest problem with this Briggs deal, though. LBs are only as good as the defensive line playing in front of them.

Think about the star LBs playing around the league. How many are playing with crappy defensive lines? If our line doesn't get better, Briggs isn't going to make much of a difference for us.

Now I should note, London Fletcher may make an impact on our defensive line play. He'll be responsible for lining guys up right and hopefully will do the job just as well as Antonio Pierce did. Just having the linemen in the right place before the snap could make a huge difference. Maybe that's what GW is counting on. But if we don't get better line play, Briggs is going to make little to no impact as he'll be swept away by the wave of linemen pushing in his direction.

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Very true Schneed. Maybe they're thinking about bringing in Ian Scott ?

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John Clayton JUST weighed in on this on SportsCenter. He said Briggs would have to restructure his contract since we can't afford the $7.2M cap hit, AND Briggs would have to take and pass a physical. This all has to happen before around 1pm tomorrow. Not likely. He said time is running out. Also, if there was a player on the Skins who would move to Chicago it would be Lemar Marshall, not Rocky.

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[quote=GMScud;303446]John Clayton JUST weighed in on this on SportsCenter. He said Briggs would have to restructure his contract since we can't afford the $7.2M cap hit, AND Briggs would have to take and pass a physical. This all has to happen before around 1pm tomorrow. Not likely. He said time is running out. Also, if there was a player on the Skins who would move to Chicago it would be Lemar Marshall, not Rocky.[/quote]

Good.

I can't wait to put this story to bed once and for all.

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[quote=Mattyk72;303451]Good.

I can't wait to put this story to bed once and for all.[/quote]

Well good news, it HAS been put to bed. Clayton just came on again a second ago and said talks have broken off. It's over with and WILL NOT happen. Time ran out. Period. This is the last any of us ever have to talk about this.

YESSSSSSSS

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Please be true. Man the bears GM is an idiot for not pulling the trigger on that first deal. What are they going to do with Briggs now?

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Great, let's get back to freaking out over the draft.

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Lets hope the bears will keep us from screwing up and say no to the trade.

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i really think this move woulda been good for you guys

briggs is a lb thats all over the field, urlacher gets the hype but briggs is a helluva player

anyway i'm broke, drunk and i'm back on teh warpath!! yeah basically nuthins changed wahoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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[quote=denim_monger;310648]i really think this move woulda been good for you guys

briggs is a lb thats all over the field, urlacher gets the hype but briggs is a helluva player

anyway i'm broke, drunk and i'm back on teh warpath!! yeah basically nuthins changed wahoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo[/quote]


have fun with arch

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;310656]have fun with arch[/quote]

lovie will get the best outta him trust me

comeback player of the year

wahoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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you sound like a choochoo train