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[quote=dmek25;307704]Todd Heap
Jason Whitten
Kyle Brady
Jeremy Shockey
Alge Crumpler
Antonio Gates
Dallas Clark
L.J. Smith
Vernon Davis
exactly where do you think Cooley fits in this order? i think Cooley is a fine tight end, but i also think he can be replaced[/quote]

I think he sizes up better than anyone you've listed. Of course he can be replaced....that's only common sense, anyone can.

So you pay someone else big bucks to come in and do the job of someone who is very productive? That makes ZERO sense to me.

And forget who Cooley is, NOT HARDLEY, look around the stadium look how many 47 jerseys you see if you go to any games. He will get the paycheck that he deserves, hopefully from us.

If any team looking for a top tier TE in the entire league and CC was available, they would jump all over CC.

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[quote=dmek25;307704]Todd Heap
Jason Witten
Kyle Brady
Jeremy Shockey
Alge Crumpler
Antonio Gates
Dallas Clark
L.J. Smith
Vernon Davis
exactly where do you think Cooley fits in this order? i think Cooley is a fine tight end, but i also think he can be replaced[/quote]Vernon Davis and L.J. Smith are dime a dozen players. They have skills that could be easily replaced by any TE, or in VD's case, any receiver. Dallas Clark, Jeremey Shockey and Antonio Gates can't block. So I'd put Cooley above all them right off the bat.

So that leaves Crumpler, Heap, Brady, and Witten on your list. Witten is a solid route runner, Brady is a great blocker, and Crumpler, and Heap are both. Both Crumpler and Brady are better blockers than Cooley. But no one, and I mean no one, is as sure handed or makes plays after the catch like Cooley does. Cooley is the best TE in the passing game in the league, bar none.

Once you factor in blocking, Crumpler might be a better TE, and so might Todd Heap, but thats the company he's in. And if Cooley continues to improve his blocking, he will be the leagues best TE without question. Because he does stuff in the passing game that absolutely no other TE can do.

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[quote=Grim21Reaper;307711]If you traded Cooley for a guy who gave us 12+ sacks next year we would forget that Cooley was ever here.[/quote]I'd rather have both.

We have a guy who can get 12+ sacks next year in Carter. So if that's all you are looking for in a DE we have you covered.

I mean, sure, he's going to be highway 99 vs. the run, but if its all about sacks...we're fine.

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[quote=GTripp0012;307716]I'd rather have both.

We have a guy who can get 12+ sacks next year in Carter. So if that's all you are looking for in a DE we have you covered.

I mean, sure, he's going to be highway 99 vs. the run, but if its all about sacks...we're fine.[/quote]


I don't understand why people are so quick to count CARTER out? He came on strong at the latter part of the season, I think this year he will have a statement season.

Pretty clear the staff that knows didn't draft or sign a FA to this point a DT/DE as we did last season for a reason? Not that we won't make a depth move, I would not rule that out.

If our team has learned anything.....COOLEY will be here for a long time!

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Cooley isn't going anywhere. And i hope he wants to be a redskin because he makes the games exciting.

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[quote=dmek25;307615]what a novel idea. if the players were good enough, this works. we need some defensive linemen in the worst way[/quote]

Dude, haven't you read ST vs Landry forum?? Someone basically explained GW's style, blitzing.. We don't need [B]all[/B] d-line to rush, just need some to push o-line away so safety or lb could get through with a hole..

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[quote=dmek25;307693]while i like Cooley, no way i would break the bank for him. decent tight ends are a dime a dozen[/quote]

Dude, not only he is in top 5, he is true 'Skins.. You wouldn't find that kind of character at anywhere..

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not sure if its been said yet, but cooley is the only receiver to have already demonstrated chemistry with campbell. THIS IS CRUCIAL. i hope they are BOTH here winning years from now.

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[quote=GridIron26;307724]Dude, haven't you read ST vs Landry forum?? Someone basically explained GW's style, blitzing.. We don't need [B]all[/B] d-line to rush, just need some to push o-line away so safety or lb could get through with a hole..[/quote]
thats all fine and dandy when it comes to the passing game, but what about the run? then what happens? hopefully not more of the same from last season. because that was brutal to watch, dude

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[quote=GridIron26;307725]Dude, not only he is in top 5, he is true 'Skins.. You wouldn't find that kind of character at anywhere..[/quote]
character is good, but we have to get us somebody in here that can play. as i said before, i think Cooley is a fine tight end. but not a break the bank tight end, dude

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At worst the D line should rush the QB in making erratic throws. Landry gives us a great potential run stopper and pass rusher. Damn Williams could go nuts and blitz both ST and Landry. Someone might get decapitated this season!!!!!!

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;307713]I think he sizes up better than anyone you've listed. Of course he can be replaced....that's only common sense, anyone can.

So you pay someone else big bucks to come in and do the job of someone who is very productive? That makes ZERO sense to me.

And forget who Cooley is, NOT HARDLEY, look around the stadium look how many 47 jerseys you see if you go to any games. He will get the paycheck that he deserves, hopefully from us.

If any team looking for a top tier TE in the entire league and CC was available, they would jump all over CC.[/quote]

well put man cooley is a top 7 te in the nfl

1. gates
2. gonzalez
3. shockley (not consistent)
4. heap
5a. crumpler (drops too many balls)
5b. cooley

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[quote=dmek25;307735]character is good, but we have to get us somebody in here that can play. as i said before, i think Cooley is a fine tight end. but not a break the bank tight end, dude[/quote]


look at what daniel graham got cooley deserves the same thing if not more

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[quote=J. Spanky;307732]not sure if its been said yet, but cooley is the only receiver to have already demonstrated chemistry with campbell. THIS IS CRUCIAL. i hope they are BOTH here winning years from now.[/quote]


that is true campbell already said that CC is his favorite reciever

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;307757]look at what daniel graham got cooley deserves the same thing if not more[/quote]Exactly. It's not like anyone can say he hasn't earned his money. He's not going to ask us to break the bank for him, just give him a deal that rivals Grahams. Lord knows hes a better player than Graham.

This is the kind of guy we should want to invest in.