Re: Rocky McIntosh
 

[quote=CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR;311570]rock has alot of upside but if the dline still stinks it doesnt matter how good rock or the other LB's are.[/quote] Lets just hope the DL is healthy and Golston can improve off of last year . Maybe we find aother DE after June 1st .

Re: Rocky McIntosh
 

[quote=budw38;311610]Lets just hope the DL is healthy and Golston can improve off of last year . Maybe we find aother DE after June 1st .[/quote]


they will be he will be and we will

Re: Rocky McIntosh
 

[quote=wolfeskins;311592] marshall is a proven starting caliber lb in the nfl, rocky has yet to prove anything as far as i know.[/quote]

Yes, and if Rocky doesn't earn his starting job, Marshall will get it.

The thing about Marshall is that he knows all the LB positions. From a team standpoint, it makes more sense to have Rocky concentrate on his one position and try to earn it while having Marshall compete at all positions for depth. I'd rather have Marshall come of the bench for an injured LB than to have him starting outside and then switch him inside if Flecher gets injured and then bring in Rocky off the bench.

In other words, Rocky doesn't have enough expereince to be the primary backup at all LB positions. We hope that he can be good enough to earn one spot.

Re: Rocky McIntosh
 

i think a lot of people on this board HOPE that rocky will be good and turning that into "he has the ability to be great"

what out of this guy have you seen that makes you think he has the potential to be great?

lemar got the job done and is very underated obviously by reading this thread.

rocky is fast because hes not that big.

i hope the kid turns out good too, but remember just because we invested a lot in this dude doesnt mean that we should make a huge fan calling for him to start. i think pulling lemar would be a terrible idea personally. i know im not a coach, but lemar was not the reason we were losing games, i think starting rocky is a mistake unless he really is showing impressive looks in camp.

Re: Rocky McIntosh
 

Marshall took a step back last year. Whether it was due to injury or the overall collective collapse of the D who knows, but either way McIntosh is the young stud on the block who's physically a much more talented player.

I don't think it's written in stone that Rocky is starting ahead of Marshall. He's still going to have to solidify himself as the starter in training camp.

Re: Rocky McIntosh
 

[quote=Mattyk72;312058]Marshall took a step back last year. Whether it was due to injury or the overall collective collapse of the D who knows, but either way McIntosh is the young stud on the block who's physically a much more talented player.

I don't think it's written in stone that Rocky is starting ahead of Marshall. He's still going to have to solidify himself as the starter in training camp.[/quote]


what im saying is how much have we seen of him to say hes a much more physically talented player? marshall is a solid player for us and removing him from being a starter just to give rocky time could prove to be a huge mistake. we gave up a lot for him which at the time i didnt and still dont agree with. i hope that all of you prove me wrong and he turns out to be an incredible player, i just am not going to put all of my faith in him just yet, especially to start over a guy that has been good for us the past couple years.

Re: Rocky McIntosh
 

[quote=chrisl4064;312068]what im saying is how much have we seen of him to say hes a much more physically talented player? marshall is a solid player for us and removing him from being a starter just to give rocky time could prove to be a huge mistake. we gave up a lot for him which at the time i didnt and still dont agree with. i hope that all of you prove me wrong and he turns out to be an incredible player, i just am not going to put all of my faith in him just yet, especially to start over a guy that has been good for us the past couple years.[/quote]

You don't have to see much to be able to make a comparison.

Marshall is solid but he's not anything special from an athletic standpoint. Rocky on the other hand is younger, faster and quicker.

If Williams has already penciled in Rocky as the starter I think that's saying something.

Re: Rocky McIntosh
 

[quote=Mattyk72;312058]Marshall took a step back last year. Whether it was due to injury or the overall collective collapse of the D who knows, but either way McIntosh is the young stud on the block who's physically a much more talented player.

I don't think it's written in stone that Rocky is starting ahead of Marshall. He's still going to have to solidify himself as the starter in training camp.[/quote]


he will and i hope that he does cause he has all the tools to be a good weak side linebacker in the NFL

Re: Rocky McIntosh
 

Any word on Washington's surgery or rehab at all in the DC media guys? Will he be ready to roll come Sept? He is our beast at LB, but he might not be the same guy if the surgery didn't do the trick. We had better hope that Rocky really steps up his game, just in case.

Re: Rocky McIntosh
 

[quote=GusFrerotte;312361]Any word on Washington's surgery or rehab at all in the DC media guys? Will he be ready to roll come Sept? He is our beast at LB, but he might not be the same guy if the surgery didn't do the trick. We had better hope that Rocky really steps up his game, just in case.[/quote]


he has been practicing

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Re: Rocky McIntosh
 

Thanks Earthquake,

Redskins.com doesn't say much about him, and the Detroit media is of course busy with Detroit teams. Skins.com, Pro Football Weekly, and Fox Sports, is all I have a lot of the time. Good to see he is practicing!!!!! Hope he stays true to form!!! Damn Wings took another dive!!!!!

Re: Rocky McIntosh
 

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;311360]Maybe it's on Lindsey to an extent. But isn't it (or is it) the responsibility of someone above Lindsey (Blache, Williams, Gibbs, Matty) to step in and say "Rocky's playing. You find a way to make it work" Or is that overstepping your bounds and not letting your subordinates do their job?[/QUOTE]

Absolutly! Regardles of what Lindsey may or may not have done, it is up to Williams to make the evaluation overall on defense, subordinates are there to serve the higharchy, letting them do their job and letting them make the final evaluation are two different things. They prepare a player for the NFL the coach deceids if he is ready to play, and the only way a coach would really know is by watching that player which I have to assume Williams does, you cannot follow an assistant blindly just based on his word.


As far as Rocky is concerned from what I saw of him he looked like a real good LB. He seemed to be able to disengauge from blockers instantly, I didn't really see anyone lock on to him, he also looked like he has the ability to get to the QB, hopefully he's up to speed with the rest of the defense which I think he has to be at this point.

Re: Rocky McIntosh
 

[quote=GusFrerotte;312428]Thanks Earthquake,

Redskins.com doesn't say much about him, and the Detroit media is of course busy with Detroit teams. Skins.com, Pro Football Weekly, and Fox Sports, is all I have a lot of the time. Good to see he is practicing!!!!! Hope he stays true to form!!! Damn Wings took another dive!!!!![/quote]


no problem, that is what we are here for

Re: Rocky McIntosh
 

[QUOTE=Mattyk72;312058]Marshall took a step back last year. Whether it was due to injury or the overall collective collapse of the D who knows, but either way McIntosh is the young stud on the block who's physically a much more talented player.

I don't think it's written in stone that Rocky is starting ahead of Marshall. He's still going to have to solidify himself as the starter in training camp.[/QUOTE]

If Marshall took a step back last year then Rocky was a no show. If Rocky had wow-ed the coaches in training camp, preseason or in the regular season practices, he would have been in the rotation more. The fact is he did not so he was not in the games. He had plenty of opportunities. Some, if not all of the blame for Rocky's lack of PT has to be on Rocky.

Superior athletic ability does not always translate in to a better football player on the field. I fail to see that Rocky will have more up side than Lemar in the NFL until he can prove he even belongs. Lemar has proven it on an NFL regular season and more importantly playoff field.

It is typical of life in the NFL when a team does poorly there is a fall guy, deserving or not. Last years fall guy was LB coach.

Re: Rocky McIntosh
 

I guess we'll never know why Rocky didn't see the field more last year. Either way, the fact he's penciled in as the starter right now tells me Williams has confidence in him and perhaps it wasn't all on Rocky last year.