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irish 12-17-2007 10:23 AM

Re: Fred Smoot - asset, liability, or neither?
 
Smoot did play great last night but 1 game does not an asset make. I think between Smoot being hurt a lot and getting burned a good bit I could never call him an asset. I dont think he's a liability either so I'd have to say neither.

And lets not get too carried away with smoot shutting down his receiver, the wind was the shut down factor.

onlydarksets 12-17-2007 10:28 AM

Re: Fred Smoot - asset, liability, or neither?
 
Duck, irish.

MTK 12-17-2007 10:33 AM

Re: Fred Smoot - asset, liability, or neither?
 
[quote=onlydarksets;393983]Duck, irish.[/quote]

Nah, that's typical.

celts32 12-17-2007 10:34 AM

Re: Fred Smoot - asset, liability, or neither?
 
I am confused why anyone would start a thread ripping on Smoot...maybe I watchd a different game.

MTK 12-17-2007 10:38 AM

Re: Fred Smoot - asset, liability, or neither?
 
[quote=celts32;393989]I am confused why anyone would start a thread ripping on Smoot...maybe I watchd a different game.[/quote]

Or maybe you just haven't watched the entire season!!

I'm not sure what that means either. I was just trying to play along. ;)

onlydarksets 12-17-2007 10:39 AM

Re: Fred Smoot - asset, liability, or neither?
 
I'm just trying to bump my post count. Mission accomplished.

MTK 12-17-2007 10:45 AM

Re: Fred Smoot - asset, liability, or neither?
 
At least you weren't trying to bump your reputation points.

RMSkins 12-17-2007 10:49 AM

Re: Fred Smoot - asset, liability, or neither?
 
Smoot had a great game last night against a great receiver in Plax, he totally shut him down. Fred is definitely an asset to this team, but I still think he is best suited at the #3 CB position.

Daseal 12-17-2007 10:51 AM

Re: Fred Smoot - asset, liability, or neither?
 
I could see people question him being a starter, but find me a better 3rd CB in this league than Smoot. He's certainly one of the best nickel players around. The last 2-3 games Smoot has been playing great. he's found his stride again.

Rajmahal33 12-17-2007 10:55 AM

Re: Fred Smoot - asset, liability, or neither?
 
[B]Liability [/B]as a #1 corner

[B]Neither/Push[/B] as a #2 - i mean to say he is strictly average, nothing more nothing less as a #2

[B]Asset[/B] as a #3/Nickel and Dime Db

The only caveat to all of that is when he decides to have a breakout game every now and then. This is usually instigated by trash talking/friendlly banter with a specific wideout and he plays like he has a chip on his shoulders. Then he looks like a legit #1 guy. He also does possess good open field tackling skills to help out in the run game (a vital skill in a GW system). My final thought on Fred Smoot is that he is neither the problem nor the solution when it comes to our secondary or our defense as a whole. He is the essential filler meat to our squad and is a great locker room presence, so i'd like to see him stay a redskin unless we get someone who is a [I]significant[/I] upgrade.

NinjaLink 12-17-2007 10:55 AM

Re: Fred Smoot - asset, liability, or neither?
 
Smoot was all over Burress...I mean who can check Burress like Smoot did last night? He was shut out.

tmandoug1 12-17-2007 11:00 AM

Re: Fred Smoot - asset, liability, or neither?
 
Smoot played an awesome game last night. Shut down corner last night, we needed that. Great job skins.

onlydarksets 12-17-2007 11:06 AM

Re: Fred Smoot - asset, liability, or neither?
 
[quote=Rajmahal33;394012][B]Liability [/B]as a #1 corner

[B]Neither/Push[/B] as a #2 - i mean to say he is strictly average, nothing more nothing less as a #2

[B]Asset[/B] as a #3/Nickel and Dime Db

The only caveat to all of that is when he decides to have a breakout game every now and then. This is usually instigated by trash talking/friendlly banter with a specific wideout and he plays like he has a chip on his shoulders. Then he looks like a legit #1 guy. He also does possess good open field tackling skills to help out in the run game (a vital skill in a GW system). My final thought on Fred Smoot is that he is neither the problem nor the solution when it comes to our secondary or our defense as a whole. He is the essential filler meat to our squad and is a great locker room presence, so i'd like to see him stay a redskin unless we get someone who is a [I]significant[/I] upgrade.[/quote]

Nicely put. I agree with #1 and #3. I'm on the fence with #2, and I sway with the winds.

Winds which apparently nobody else saw in their version of last night's game.

MTK 12-17-2007 11:14 AM

Re: Fred Smoot - asset, liability, or neither?
 
Of course the wind was a factor but Smoot still did a nice job.

firstdown 12-17-2007 11:17 AM

Re: Fred Smoot - asset, liability, or neither?
 
[quote=onlydarksets;393926]Is Smoot helping or hurting us in the secondary?

It seems he is constantly getting burned either by speed or by a move. He had a nice deflection in the end zone yesterday, but he was playing catchup on the play. When the ball is in the air, he is usually trying to find his man, not the ball.

That said, has he cost us that much? How many times has he given up a TD, or the big play that leads to a score? (I don't know the answer to this - just asking). He also is probably the best option (especially with Rogers injured).

I like Smoot - I think that, since his return, he has been a positive influence on the Skins. However, I'm just not sure about his skills out there.

So, what do you think? Where are the polls?[/quote]Ok, he was playing catch up and deflected the ball. Isn't that what coeners do? Corners have to react to a play so they are always kind of playing catch up to make plays.


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