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SC Skins Fan 02-04-2008 12:30 PM

Re: Belichick walking off with time on the clock
 
[quote=NYCSkin;417160]At least he congratulated Coughlin. But I think overall Belichick is a sore loser. His interview with Chris Myers after the game was painful to watch. Though I must say I took some glee in it since here's a coach that hates answering to the media and was forced to do that traditional "losing coach" interview...[/quote]

Though, in fairness, he sounds the same way when they win.

over the mountain 02-04-2008 12:41 PM

Re: Belichick walking off with time on the clock
 
i loved it . . he looked like an idiot leading the "games over" parade, half way thru i think he realized there was still time on the clock but didnt want to look like a bigger idiot in having to go back to the sideline so he disregards the time on the clock, goes shakes hands then leaves while his team still has a snap to play . . . making him look like the jerk he is.

very fitting end for him.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 02-04-2008 12:48 PM

Re: Belichick walking off with time on the clock
 
A few years ago in a Week 17 matchup with playoff implications for the Vikes, Randy Moss walked off of the field when it appeared the Redskins had all but wrapped up the game. Moss caught hell for it in the press. On the game's biggest stage, Belichick walked off the field before the game was over. Why isn't Belichick getting roasted the same way Moss did? Granted, Belichick shook Coughlin's hand, but the game was not over.

Now, this "scandal" pales in comparison to Spygate and other incidents involving Belichick, but it's noteworthy. To the extent that people are scrutinizing Belichick's behavior, Belichick brought that on himself for developing a well-deserved reputation of being a classless jerk.

I know "class" and respect for the game means little to some, but it means quite a bit to people like myself who believe that football is more than a game of X and Os and numbers.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 02-04-2008 12:54 PM

Re: Belichick walking off with time on the clock
 
[QUOTE=Hog1;417167]While I do not think BB ALWAYS acts in the best of taste in a given situation (and yesterday is no exception). I TOTALLY applaud his disregard for the "rules" and doing what HE thinks is acceptable. He obviously spends little time stressing about PC or what somebody else might think of his actions. For the most part, I respect that![/QUOTE]

So, basically you applaud people who are self-centered jerks? So you applaud Randy Moss mooning fans in GB, pushing a parking ticket officer on the top of his car, walking off the field early in Week 17 of 2004, calling out his QBs in public, etc. because it demonstrates that he doesn't care what society thinks and he did what he thought is acceptable?

There's a difference between being honest and being a sociopath.

QBall 02-04-2008 12:56 PM

Re: Belichick walking off with time on the clock
 
[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;417274]So, basically you applaud people who are self-centered jerks? So you applaud Randy Moss mooning fans in GB, pushing a parking ticket officer on the top of his car, walking off the field early in Week 17 of 2004, calling out his QBs in public, etc. because it demonstrates that he doesn't care what society thinks and he did what he thought is acceptable?

There's a difference between being honest and being a sociopath.[/QUOTE]

Mooning the fans in GB was pretty funny if you smoke herb and were high watching it!

ArtMonksHOFPlaque 02-04-2008 01:28 PM

Re: Belichick walking off with time on the clock
 
For a group that stresses TEAM comes first, not individuals, Bill truly showed it doesn't apply to him. His TEAM remained on the field without their leader. If I were Bruschi or Vrabel, I'd be making him pay the coffer.

Belichick knew there was time to play. The ref explained it to him as he walked out and after he congratulated Coughlin.

I am glad that the day after one one of the classiest guys aroung got into the HOF, one of the most classless guys in the league finally got knocked down.

hagams 02-04-2008 02:20 PM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;417172]Isn't Belichick the one who said that anytime his offense takes the field he expects them to score?[/quote]

I was saying the same thing last night. How many times have they been up by 20-30 points and went for a 4th down conversion? That would have been appropriate in my opinion. But, I think it would also take away from the Giants winning.

~~Break~~

I saw Bill shake Toms hand, and then walk off, and nobody at the house seemed to have a problem with it. To me, it goes against what Bill was saying about being on the field, expecting to score every down and all that. The bottom line is that he walked off the field and almost his entire team there without thier coach even if it's for only 1 second. Being a Military guy, I'm always going to be the first one in, and the last one out.

mheisig 02-04-2008 02:35 PM

Re: Belichick walking off with time on the clock
 
[QUOTE=Hog1;417167]While I do not think BB ALWAYS acts in the best of taste in a given situation (and yesterday is no exception). [B]I TOTALLY applaud his disregard for the "rules" and doing what HE thinks is acceptable.[/B] He obviously spends little time stressing about PC or what somebody else might think of his actions. For the most part, I respect that![/QUOTE]

That's the dumbest thing I've read in the last month, and it's really vying for the dumbest thing I've read on the Warpath. Ever.

Why the hell is rules in quotes? Do you not know how quotation marks work?

Monkeydad 02-04-2008 02:37 PM

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SmootSmack 02-04-2008 02:41 PM

Re: Belichick walking off with time on the clock
 
To be clear, I don't condone or applaud what Belichick did. I don't think it should be too hard to stay on the field another few seconds and take defeat like a true professional.

All I'm saying is it's not like he didn't congratulate Coughlin at all and it just seems like this is how he's going to be and I just don't see him changing his ways. I don't know that he can be "forced" to do otherwise.

Monkeydad 02-04-2008 02:53 PM

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Did I see it right? It looked like to me that Belichick gave an official a little push out of the way when going out to meet Coughlin.

Wouldn't surprise me, seeing how he shoves reporters too.

WillH 02-04-2008 03:24 PM

Re: Belichick walking off with time on the clock
 
[quote=SmootSmack;417343]To be clear, I don't condone or applaud what Belichick did. I don't think it should be too hard to stay on the field another few seconds and take defeat like a true professional.

All I'm saying is it's not like he didn't congratulate Coughlin at all and it just seems like this is how he's going to be and I just don't see him changing his ways. I don't know that he can be "forced" to do otherwise.[/quote]

Yeah, he did nothing against any rules, so I am sure he wont catch any heat from the NFL, but it certainly was unsportsmanlike. For as much as this team loves to bitch about people hating on them, to do something so childish just goes to show why the catch so much flak. You would hope that as a dynasty that has won three super bowls they would have some class, and be able to take what they've been dishing out for so many years. It is a discredit to them, IMO. It may not be a serious lapse of judgment with serious consequences, but it was certainly childish. I have no anger or resentment towards him for it. In fact, it was utterly delightful to watch him stamp off the field grimacing. What a sore loser!!

TheBigD 02-04-2008 03:32 PM

Re: Belichick walking off with time on the clock
 
[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;417273]A few years ago in a Week 17 matchup with playoff implications for the Vikes, Randy Moss walked off of the field when it appeared the Redskins had all but wrapped up the game. Moss caught hell for it in the press. On the game's biggest stage, Belichick walked off the field before the game was over. Why isn't Belichick getting roasted the same way Moss did? Granted, Belichick shook Coughlin's hand, but the game was not over.

Now, this "scandal" pales in comparison to Spygate and other incidents involving Belichick, but it's noteworthy. To the extent that people are scrutinizing Belichick's behavior, Belichick brought that on himself for developing a well-deserved reputation of being a classless jerk.

I know "class" and respect for the game means little to some, but it means quite a bit to people like myself who believe that football is more than a game of X and Os and numbers.[/quote]

I am totally with you on this one Sheriff. NO-ONE and I mean no-one is above the game.

How is this not hurting the NFL's image is just beyond me. It is telling the millions of kids and young athletes that if you lose, the rules don't apply no more. This game is being broadcasted internationaly and the NFL should do something about BB acting infront of the whole world like the NFL is his little bitch. I am thinking a suspension of couple of games would be fit.

RobH4413 02-04-2008 04:11 PM

Re: Belichick walking off with time on the clock
 
[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;417273]A few years ago in a Week 17 matchup with playoff implications for the Vikes, Randy Moss walked off of the field when it appeared the Redskins had all but wrapped up the game. Moss caught hell for it in the press. On the game's biggest stage, Belichick walked off the field before the game was over. [B]Why isn't Belichick getting roasted the same way Moss did? [/B]Granted, Belichick shook Coughlin's hand, but the game was not over.

Now, this "scandal" pales in comparison to Spygate and other incidents involving Belichick, but it's noteworthy. To the extent that people are scrutinizing Belichick's behavior, Belichick brought that on himself for developing a well-deserved reputation of being a classless jerk.

I know "class" and respect for the game means little to some, but it means quite a bit to people like myself who believe that football is more than a game of X and Os and numbers.[/quote]
To answer your question, I think it's probably because a coach walking off is completely different than a player. Pretty much I don't think these are parallel situations.

I'm not saying I didn't raise an eyebrow when he walked off the fields, but It wasn't the same kind of "whateva, I do what I want!", mentality. He shook hands, lost gracefully, and peaced out.

I'm not one to give BB the benefit of the doubt, because I legitimately don't like him, I just don't think this and the RM incident in D.C. is a good comparison.

JoeRedskin 02-04-2008 04:13 PM

Re: Belichick walking off with time on the clock
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;417343]To be clear, I don't condone or applaud what Belichick did. I don't think it should be too hard to stay on the field another few seconds and take defeat like a true professional.

All I'm saying is it's not like he didn't congratulate Coughlin at all and it just seems like this is how he's going to be and I just don't see him changing his ways. I don't know that he can be "forced" to do otherwise.[/QUOTE]

The problem is that Bellichick probably doesn't see anything wrong with it. He isn't going to do the little things that raise his stature to the level of class that a Joe Gibbs has ("Win with class guys").

As others have said, not caring what others think is one thing - being devoid of common courtesy and ignoring commonly accepted standards of sportsmansip is something else all together.


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