Re: My worst Fear: V Cerrato Running the Redskins
 

[QUOTE=Defensewins;423346]Five years ago we drafted:
Taylor Jacobs
Derrick Dockery
Gibran Hamdan

Six years ago we drafted:
Patrick Ramsey
Ladell Betts
Clifford Russell
Robert Royal
Reggie Coleman
Jeff Grau
Gregory Scott
Rock Cartwright

Talk about retarded comments.[/QUOTE]

He said it's improved over the last 5 or 6 years. Not that it was great 5-6 years ago.

Re: My worst Fear: V Cerrato Running the Redskins
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;423347]After this off-season only one of those guys will still be on the team[/quote]

It's Hamden right? :laughing2

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[quote=skins009;423332]You clearly have forgotten how bad our offense was that first year in the playoffs.
If you want evidence of how bad Jansen is watch the tape of the pre-season this last year. Specifically the titans game.
We've only been making the playoff's because the NFC is so weak. The skins remind me a lot of the chiefs from a couple of years ago who were making the playoffs but clearly were not a solid team.
You can see me prediction above. If your so bold, make your own prediction then we'll see who knows more about football and building a championship franchise.[/quote]

Dude, your football knowledge is very weak and one sided to say the least IMO! That was one pre-season game, doesn't every player have a bad game...ESPECIALLY in pre- season or you've never seen that before?

We've only made the playoffs because the NFC is so weak....huh? Well being the Super bowl champions came out of not only the NFC, but the NFC EAST is that what you call weak, I'm sorry your points are just flat out merit less and retarded IMO.

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Also, no team in the NFC East was under .500. We play in one of the toughest divisions in the league.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;423351]He said it's improved over the last 5 or 6 years. Not that it was great 5-6 years ago.[/QUOTE]

???????
So what improvement do you see from six years ago to five years ago?
Draft wise we actually regressed. The draft six years ago at least we kept Ladell Betts and Rock Cartright. The draft five years ago we kept none of them.
Where is the improvement?

Re: My worst Fear: V Cerrato Running the Redskins
 

[quote=Defensewins;423346]Five years ago we drafted:
Taylor Jacobs
Derrick Dockery
Gibran Hamdan

Six years ago we drafted:
Patrick Ramsey
Ladell Betts
Clifford Russell
Robert Royal
Reggie Coleman
Jeff Grau
Gregory Scott
Rock Cartwright

Talk about retarded comments.[/quote]


hey retard, from 5 or 6 years ago till now. try and keep up will ya.

Re: My worst Fear: V Cerrato Running the Redskins
 

Not a big fan of VC but there are SOME good things that VC has done in the early and late rounds and F-Agency as well.

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[quote=Soup's Uncle;423362]Also, no team in the NFC East was under .500. We play in one of the toughest divisions in the league.[/quote]

Three teams from the East made the playoffs what the hell is he talking about?

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[quote=Giantone;423373]Three teams from the East made the playoffs what the hell is he talking about?[/quote]



nobody really knows, including himself.

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Over half of last year's 6th and 7th round picks didn't make rosters. I guess that means that every personnel evaluator sucks.

Re: My worst Fear: V Cerrato Running the Redskins
 

[quote=skins009;423219]Dear Skins fans I'm afraid my worst fear in the football world has come true, Vinny Cerrato is now running the redskins (even though Synder is really running things). A quick summary of Cerrato's brillant decisions these last 4 years.

Signing Mark Brunnel
Trading Champ Baily AND A 2Nd ROUND Pick for Clinton Portis
Giving Brandon Lloyd a massive contract
Not only signing Archuletta but also feeling the need to give him the biggest contract ever for a safety at the time
Extending Jon Jansen's contract at a time when Jansen literally couldn't block me coming of the edge

Furthermore the way you judge is personnel person is how he drafts in the 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th rounds. IT's hear that personnel people really get their teams ahead by spotting talent that other teams have missed. The fact is tha Cerrato can't claim to ever really finding any quality players in these rounds. I very often hear some redskis fans say, but wait cerrato drafted Sean Taylor, "that was a good pick." This is dumb because when your picking 5th overall you supposed to find a good player. Anybody could look at the tape of Taylor and know he was gonna he a good player. Its in the later rounds that GM's earn their paychecks. I will rip dan synder in another post. (he's a cancer to the organization)[/quote]
First off, HGale posted the link to the Cerrato interview on Redskins radio and he is correct Cerrato did "take repsonsibility" for Lloyd, Arch and Duckett. But what should he do, trash GW (Arch) and Saunders (Lloyd)? [URL="http://hamptonroads.com/node/150111"]NFL Preview: Al Saunders on the attack for Redskins | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com[/URL] (if I need to find a link for GW pushing for Arch I definitely can). I haven't been a big Brunell fan, but he did have some success and our QB situation wasn't the most stable at the time anyway. Also, as others have said, Brunell was on Gibbs.

Of course Cerrato is going to do the stand up thing and take responsibility for bad FO moves (I have more respect for him doing that). But, after reading the article it sounds like Cerrato has a pretty good focus on what needs the team has and it sounds like many of same things folks here have been pulling for.

I don't think all our FO moves have been bad.

Cooley - 3rd round same draft as Sean Taylor. So we passed on KWII who has had injury issues and got a Pro Bowl safety & Pro Bowl TE (advantage Cerrato).

Anthony Montgomery - 5th round
Reed Doughty - 6th round
Kedric Golston - 6th round
HB Blades - 6th round
Lorenzo Alexander - UFA
Stephon Heyer - Undrafted FA
Pete Kendall
Anthony Mix
Casey Rabach
Randy Thomas
Chris Wilson
Marcus Washington

As far as ripping Snyder, how about you be in charge of a $1B football team with no experience. I'm sure you won't make any mistakes along the way..... Has Snyder's learning process been difficult for us a fans, absolutely yes. However he wants to win and isn't afraid to spend money to do it no matter what it does to the botom line. We should be thankful we have an owner who runs the Skins with passion and doesn't run it like a business with the only concern being the balance sheet.

Let's put things in perspective, we made the playoffs two of the last three years. No matter how you slice it, that's the bottom line, and is a lot better than most teams in the NFL.

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The one thing that people don't understand about GM's is a lot of them take teams apart and rebuild for 3 or 4 years. Look at the Falcons, they had a GM and where did that get them? The answer, a new GM that sent off two of the teams best players. San Francisco has a GM, look where that got them. And of course they all hide behind the "rebuilding" label which in my opinion is one of the worst things you can do to a team. Success breeds success. When you put your team in the hands of a bunch of young guys and expect to win 4-6 games a year your killing yourself for years to come.

A GM isn't always the solution and as much as I hated the process the fact remains that Vinny has brought in some good players over the past few years. Personally I think that hating Vinny Cerato is a party line that Redskin fans use as an outlet to channel their anger after ultra-conservative (on offense) Gregg Williams didn't get the job.

Of course there are good GM's around the league as seen with the Giants, Colts, and Steelers, but seriously give Vinny a chance, like Zorn I think a lot of you are going to be pleasantly surprised.

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[QUOTE=Dirtbag359;423441]Of course there are good GM's around the league as seen with the Giants, Colts, and Steelers, [B]but seriously give Vinny a chance[/B], like Zorn I think a lot of you are going to be pleasantly surprised.[/QUOTE]

Apart from the 2001 season when Marty Schottenheimer fired him, the dude has been here since 1999.

How many more chances does he get?

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At least now we'll know where Vinny stands as far as personnel decisions go. He's supposedly the fall guy now, where in the past it was always a bit of a mystery as to who was calling all the shots. We can now officially hold him accountable.

Re: My worst Fear: V Cerrato Running the Redskins
 

[quote=skins009;423332]You clearly have forgotten how bad our offense was that first year in the playoffs.
If you want evidence of how bad Jansen is watch the tape of the pre-season this last year. Specifically the titans game.
We've only been making the playoff's because the NFC is so weak. The skins remind me a lot of the chiefs from a couple of years ago who were making the playoffs but clearly were not a solid team.
You can see me prediction above. If your so bold, make your own prediction then we'll see who knows more about football and building a championship franchise.[/quote]
So what did you think about Snyder getting Gibbs to come back?