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I don't think they charged him with any race charges or her? I believe he broke the law and maybe the parents used the law to their advantage but he still broke the law. I hope when you have a daughter some 18 yr old who's in college is not trying give your daughter the sausage. especially if she is only 15. There is a big difference in maturity.

I also hope you don't pass this off as no big deal when you are having to hire a lawer for your sons defense if he should be doing the same thing. I'm sure the Judicial system would love parents who think this is no big deal.

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[quote=SBXVII;444935]I don't think they charged him with any race charges or her? I believe he broke the law and maybe the parents used the law to their advantage but he still broke the law. I hope when you have a daughter some 18 yr old who's in college is not trying give your daughter the sausage. especially if she is only 15. There is a big difference in maturity.

I also hope you don't pass this off as no big deal when you are having to hire a lawer for your sons defense if he should be doing the same thing. I'm sure the Judicial system would love parents who think this is no big deal.[/quote]

Like I said, you've already made up your mind so I'm not going to argue with you. If you don't think race or class play a role in how the law operates then that's up to you. Sorry for hijacking the thread guys. Lets get back to UDFAs who signed with the Redskins please.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;444907]Potentially, a couple more (reportedly). I have no official confirmation yet. Just getting text messages

[url=http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/ot/shannonboatman.html]OT Shannon Boatman (Florida State)[/url]

[url=http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/og/devinclark.html]OT Devin Clark (New Mexico[/url]

Not the highest marks (according just to the links I posted)[/QUOTE]

true, not the highest marks but boatman seems to have some potential. clark seems to be just a strong guy. we will see how long they last and what bugel thinks he can do with them :oink:

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I'm not going to quote it...but that might be a little out of line describing it like that

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;444938]Like I said, you've already made up your mind so I'm not going to argue with you. If you don't think race or class play a role in how the law operates then that's up to you. Sorry for hijacking the thread guys. Lets get back to UDFAs who signed with the Redskins please.[/quote]

I made up my mind according to VA law. Sorry. LOL I went back to read the story and fell out laughing. I'm sure there are some race issues in that town and all the people need to stop wearing the white sheets but please. I couldn't finish it after I read that he pulled out his junk in class. Prank or not level headed young men don't do that and he was in high school. He knew better. Then it goes on to mention the inappropriate touching of a 14yr old. after track practice. Both got him suspended. Lets not be niave here and right him off as an angle. He's a perve. no big deal right. If he was white he wouldn't have gotten into trouble...right. I can see you have made up your mind. so lets move on.

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Oh and I'm sure a criminal would not twist the story to make him look better either. Did they even talk to the police or parents of the girl to get both sides of the story? Since I couldn't finish it.

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;444867]Might be worth watching the Outside the Lines on the kid before you go around impugning his character all over the place. This is all I know of the kid, but it sure sounds like an unfair prosecution to me ... girls father found out, she came up with a story, the prosecution nailed him with an indictment that carried a 10-year min. sentence so they can say they are tough on crime and, of course, the racial implications are right out of the 1890s. I hope he gets a shot someplace ...

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?videoId=3370379"]Outside The Lines: Marcus Dixon - ESPN Video[/URL][/quote]

I remember watching this story on 60 minutes maybe?? What a bunch of BS! Glad Dallas picked him up and I hope he makes it.

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[quote=SBXVII;444948]I made up my mind according to VA law. Sorry. LOL I went back to read the story and fell out laughing. I'm sure there are some race issues in that town and all the people need to stop wearing the white sheets but please. I couldn't finish it after I read that he pulled out his junk in class. Prank or not level headed young men don't do that and he was in high school. He knew better. Then it goes on to mention the inappropriate touching of a 14yr old. after track practice. Both got him suspended. Lets not be niave here and right him off as an angle. He's a perve. no big deal right. If he was white he wouldn't have gotten into trouble...right. I can see you have made up your mind. so lets move on.[/quote]

I can see how you think inappropriate touching of a 14 year old girl is a crime, but they were making out. And that case should've ended with the fact that it was consensual sex. You're acting like you can't see things from his point of view. Did you not have sex with anyone younger than you when you were a teenager? Did you not make out with girls for fear of getting arrested for inappropriate touching?

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Character is moving rapidly from a general concern for keeping a bad apple off your team, to an accepted reason for drafting poorly.

It's kind of sickening.

You want to keep the bad guys off your team, but the NFL is about a half step from becoming a witch hunt.

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[QUOTE=SBXVII;444948]I made up my mind according to VA law. Sorry. LOL I went back to read the story and fell out laughing. I'm sure there are some race issues in that town and all the people need to stop wearing the white sheets but please. I couldn't finish it after I read that he pulled out his junk in class. Prank or not level headed young men don't do that and he was in high school. He knew better. Then it goes on to mention the inappropriate touching of a 14yr old. after track practice. Both got him suspended. Lets not be niave here and right him off as an angle. He's a perve. no big deal right. If he was white he wouldn't have gotten into trouble...right. I can see you have made up your mind. so lets move on.[/QUOTE]

I'll bite. I've got to concur with SC Skins Fan. Perve or not, he didn't deserve ANY jail time. I'm not sure what Puritanical school you attended, but I know an awful lot of 15 year olds who dated 18 year olds and none of the 18 year olds should be in prison. Dumb law and dumbass judge.

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[quote=SBXVII;444950]Oh and I'm sure a criminal would not twist the story to make him look better either. Did they even talk to the police or parents of the girl to get both sides of the story? Since I couldn't finish it.[/quote]

The father was a well known racist and he said that if he ever caught her with a black guy he'd kill them both. Not exactly uncommon in Georgia, but not really common either, and for what it's worth I'm a white guy.

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Many saw the case as racially motivated, especially when it was alleged by Dixon's partisans that Brown had claimed her father "would kill them both" if he found out because he was a racist. The President of the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Defense_Fund"]Children's Defense Fund[/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_Wright_Edelman"]Marian Wright Edelman[/URL] called it a "Legal [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching"]Lynching[/URL]". Also, the location of the incident, Georgia, spurred on the thoughts of racist bigotry.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Dixon#cite_note-pww-3"][4][/URL]
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I wonder if CB Martel Van Zant is going to get signed by anyone.

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I think we should go after that deaf WR, he sounds like he's got some real heart, can't think of his name though.

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[QUOTE=SeanTaylor21;444983]I think we should go after that deaf WR, he sounds like he's got some real heart, can't think of his name though.[/QUOTE]

I think you're thinking of Martel Van Zant

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;444985]I think you're thinking of Martel Van Zant[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that's him.