re: Vince Young 'hurting inside'
 

[quote=SC Skins Fan;474750]Athletes owe you nothing, and just because you think you would like nothing more than to spend one day in their shoes does not give you the right to decry them if they don't want to play for whatever reason.[/quote]You are absolutely right that athletes owe US nothing, but VY signed a multi-million dollar contract with the Titans to perform as a QB to the best of his ability for the term of that contract. By signing his contract he has to accept the responsibility to the Titans that goes along with it and not shut-down the minute things go sideways.

I think VY can be a solid NFL QB, but he needs to get a thicker skin and understand that he's going to need to work very hard at technique and in the filmroom. Hopefully he takes this as a learning experience and comes back a better and more mature player.

re: Vince Young 'hurting inside'
 

[quote=Buster;474713]We'll never know until he gets better receivers than Justin Gage and McCarein[U]s.[/U][/quote]

True. But Kerry Collins will is bring some stability to the position and he makes Tenn. offense better.

re: Vince Young 'hurting inside'
 

I don't think Vince Young is insane at all. I just think he needs a hug or a Teddy Bear. TO cried for Tony Romo last year, maybe one of his receivers should cry for him too. I'm going to have my Mom call my office tomorrow to let them know I'm hurting inside and out. Maybe I can score a couple of days off or a softer chair to sit in, cuz damn it I'm tired of being ridiculed too!

Matt Leinart just needs to invite him over for a pool party with some sorority girls from USC. It's not like either of them are going to play any time soon.

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[quote=SkinzzFan;474827] I'm going to have my Mom call my office tomorrow to let them know I'm hurting inside and out. Maybe I can score a couple of days off or a softer chair to sit in, cuz damn it I'm tired of being ridiculed too!
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LOL! Could she score me a day or two off too?

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;474790]You are absolutely right that athletes owe US nothing, but VY signed a multi-million dollar contract with the Titans to perform as a QB to the best of his ability for the term of that contract. [B]By signing his contract he has to accept the responsibility to the Titans that goes along with it and not shut-down the minute things go sideways.[/B]

I think VY can be a solid NFL QB, but he needs to get a thicker skin and understand that he's going to need to work very hard at technique and in the filmroom. Hopefully he takes this as a learning experience and comes back a better and more mature player.[/quote]

Exactly. If he wants to let his mommy rock him to sleep and go get a job with zero pressures or responsibility, fine (some days that seems like a pretty good life to me too). But then give back the money he took for the services he no longer wants to provide. And that applies to his endorsements as well. Now, if he tries his best but for whatever reason busts out, then good for him for getting what he could. But quitting because he realized that he has no testicular fortitude? Please.

re: Vince Young 'hurting inside'
 

[quote=SC Skins Fan;474750]Exactly. I like how so many here (and elsewhere) are so quick to cast stones without having any idea of the situation. He could have actual mental health issues or it could be nothing or whatever. Athletes owe you nothing, and just because you think you would like nothing more than to spend one day in their shoes does not give you the right to decry them if they don't want to play for whatever reason. Of course if people on a message board were drawing snap conclusions about a Redskin (Sean Taylor) I'm sure no one here would raise a fuss or anything. Just another example of our cultural obsession with celebrity.[/quote]

SC bringing it as usual. There have been reports for sometime that Young was unhappy and it is very possible he is suffering with clinical depression as a result of the negative scrutiny he has received, or perhaps a million other things. Maybe a friend died. Who knows? But I am stunned by the lack of compassion so many of you seem to have for someone who is suffering, while going through a legitimately tough situation. Mental health is a serious medical issue in this country, a serious drain on productivity at work, and a destroyer of families.

As SC said, maybe it is nothing at all; but let's hold off ruthlessly judging someone else until we have all the facts.

re: Vince Young 'hurting inside'
 

[quote=djnemo65;474858]SC bringing it as usual. There have been reports for sometime that Young was unhappy and it is very possible he is suffering with clinical depression as a result of the negative scrutiny he has received, or perhaps a million other things. Maybe a friend died. Who knows? But I am stunned by the lack of compassion so many of you seem to have for someone who is suffering, while going through a legitimately tough situation. Mental health is a serious medical issue in this country, a serious drain on productivity at work, and a destroyer of families.

As SC said, maybe it is nothing at all; but let's hold off ruthlessly judging someone else until we have all the facts.[/quote]

While your points are all well taken, and IT IS a Damn shame........He's Done in Nashville. I promise you he will be a locker room problem (as he has had a number of questionable things happen over the years) in the leadership category, and I fully believe Collins will seal the deal by making the offense better, as Skinsfan pointed out.

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[quote=Hog1;474860]While your points are all well taken, and IT IS a Damn shame........He's Done in Nashville. I promise you he will be a locker room problem (as he has had a number of questionable things happen over the years) in the leadership category, and I fully believe Collins will seal the deal by making the offense better, as Skinsfan pointed out.[/quote]

It definitely appears to be unraveling pretty quickly. But I never knew him to be a locker room problem. Can you elaborate on that?

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[quote=GMScud;474697]I don't believe in coddling athletes or feeling particularly sorry for them, but I think Vince deserves a break on this one. He was getting booed, then he went down with what he initially thought was a season ending knee injury...

He has a lot of pressure on him and he's a very young man. Getting booed in the same game where you think you've torn up your knee is pretty rough. I understand why he was upset. He wanted to get away and hang with a friend and didn't want the distraction of his cell phone. Understandable. Give the kid a break.[/quote]
Thank you, I don't see how he is insane. Some people just can't take the pressure and expectations. It isn't all about the money.

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I'm sorry, but he's spoiled. Look at people like Todd Collins, Arron Rodgers etc. that hang around and hold a clip-board hoping for just a chance. They don't want to play bad, but it could happen. Thier heart is in the game, and they honestly play because it makes them happy. Vince is unhappy because he's playing poorly, and the fans aren't with him. Then again, what fans cheer for a QB that's having problems? Look at what we are doing to JC, and I'm sure he's not on the verge of a nervous breakdown.

Go by a new car, suck it the Fu(K up, or rub some dirt on it, walk it off.....do something and get your butt back to playing ball. Here's a hint.....people will like you more if you try to throw the ball to your players....just a hint.

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[quote=djnemo65;474861]It definitely appears to be unraveling pretty quickly. But I never knew him to be a locker room problem. Can you elaborate on that?[/quote]
He really has not been except, he has missed a team plane, has spoken publicly about retiring, stated that football was not that much fun anymore, etc. His mom did not help!!!
I think the other guys will have problems believing in him. That's the potential locker room problem.
I cannot believe the team would act so forcefully....foolishly without cause(by notifying the police of his absence) as these are guys that deal with serious health issues/problems regularly.

re: Vince Young 'hurting inside'
 

[quote=Hog1;474866]He really has not been except, he has missed a team plane, has spoken publicly about retiring, stated that football was not that much fun anymore, etc. His mom did not help!!!
I think the other guys will have problems believing in him. That's the potential locker room problem.
[B]I cannot believe the team would act so forcefully....foolishly without cause(by notifying the police of his absence)[/B] as these are guys that deal with serious health issues/problems regularly.[/quote]

It was my understanding that the Titans reacted that way based on the phone call they received from Vince's family members. Someone was obviously overly concerned about him. Or not. It could be that they in fact did not overreact at all, and they're totally downplaying the situation to back off the media while they figure out how to deal with a mentally very unstable individual. Just a suggestion. It could be the case.

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Shame on all you people if VY actually has a mental issue. Whether it be depression or worst, stuff like that is serious. I still can't believe the lack of consideration, it disgusts me.

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[quote=skinsfan69;474660]Leinart still has a bright future ahead of him IMO. Warner is just a better QB right now. But Leinart can play in the NFL. I don't think Alex Smith can. Smith just doesn't have the ability.[/quote]Agreed.

re: Vince Young 'hurting inside'
 

[quote=firstdown;474777]How come people say VY does not have the talent to play in the NFL but then hop to another thread supporting JC and think he will be OK.[/quote]Because the only possible comparison between them given their college histories and early career statistics is obvious, but not relevant.

Campbell can throw the ball at the pro level. Young has yet to show that. Both need to improve, but one still needs to prove he belongs first.