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LMsexyAO 10-12-2008 05:07 PM

Re: The Official Cut Durant Brooks Thread
 
[quote=hooskins;488989]Dont get me wrong, I think it is a problem. Is it the main problem? IMO, I don't think so.

Bigger issues:
-the offense not getting off the ball(score efficiently and early), and being consistent for ALL FOUR quarters.
-Finding out who we are(identity)
-Zorn's ability to lead this team after losing to the worst team in the NFL[/quote]

Without a doubt those are much bigger problems. I just think our punting problem is one we could fix tomorrow, or at least bring in competition, see if anyone better is out there.

I think what makes me the most frustrated is that I didn't actively notice a punting problem last year with Frost. He had his ups and downs but it was never this bad. He kind of got ran out of DC for no real reason if you ask me.

redskinsskickazz 10-12-2008 05:11 PM

Re: The Official Cut Durant Brooks Thread
 
as horrible as he has played i was willing to let him go through his rookie learning curve but when a team goes three and out and still gets a field goal because you only got off a 26 yard punt that is the point when i agree he is killing us and we can no longer afford to let him grow as a rookie, its unfortunate too because i think he will eventually be a good punter he certainly has the leg to do it.

EternalEnigma21 10-12-2008 05:16 PM

Re: The Official Cut Durant Brooks Thread
 
1. He's improving
2. He's not the reason we lost today
3. He's a big reason we scored early
4. Who would we get to replace him
5. His second punt was ugly, but turned out to be a nice netting punt. He had a bad one out of his own endzone, but he's struggling anyway and he was pushed up toward the line a lot more than he's used to, so I give him a pass for just getting it off without giving up a safety.

Vulta121 10-12-2008 05:21 PM

Re: The Official Cut Durant Brooks Thread
 
we need to cut the punter and the kicker

hooskins 10-12-2008 05:26 PM

Re: The Official Cut Durant Brooks Thread
 
[quote=LMsexyAO;488994]Without a doubt those are much bigger problems. I just think our punting problem is one we could fix tomorrow, or at least bring in competition, see if anyone better is out there.

I think what makes me the most frustrated is that I didn't actively notice a punting problem last year with Frost. He had his ups and downs but it was never this bad. He kind of got ran out of DC for no real reason if you ask me.[/quote]
I agree about it being a quick fix and Frost getting ran out.

I don't mean to say you're a bad poster, I am bit frustrated with the negativity, and losing doesn't help. My apologies.

BugelDisciple 10-12-2008 05:30 PM

Re: The Official Cut Durant Brooks Thread
 
I don't know the protocol, but how long does it take to develop a punter typically? He has not been great, but to my knowledge Danny Smith stuck his neck out for this guy. There may be underlying issues with releasing Brooks

Beemnseven 10-12-2008 05:36 PM

Re: The Official Cut Durant Brooks Thread
 
[quote=hooskins;488953]Are you kidding me? Catching the snap and positioning it before a field goal kick is much more important than a short punt.

The Rams didn't get any pts directly off Brooks punt, and his hold from a bad snap helped up get points.[/quote]

[quote=Smooter]I'd rather have a few muffed punts than not being able to count on field goals and extra points.[/quote]

First of all, the 26-yard punt out of the endzone led to the Josh Brown field goal that put them up 16-7. So yes, the Rams DID get points thanks to Brooks' shitty punt.

Secondly Smooter, being able to catch the snap for field goals and extra points is Brooks' second responsibility. His first responsibility is to get his team out of trouble by punting the ball effectively. He hasn't done that consistenly all season. This was a classic field position game, and Durant Brooks failed us miserably.

Finding someone to hold for Suisham isn't as difficult as it is to punt the ball. Anyone can hold, not anyone can punt. That's like singing the praises of the lawyer who loses all his cases but does a good job filling up the water cooler every week.

Slingin Sammy 33 10-12-2008 05:40 PM

Re: The Official Cut Durant Brooks Thread
 
[quote=htownskinfan;488968]frost might have been better,but [B]never shanked any punts?[/B]he was good for at least 1 shank a game up to last yr,he was better last yr,but he did occasionally shank them[/quote]
I guess I should clarify that was sarcasm.

Paintrain 10-12-2008 05:46 PM

Re: The Official Cut Durant Brooks Thread
 
[quote=JGisLordOfTheRings;488938]I vote for change thread title to "Cut Leigh Torrence"

[b]Wtf was he even DOING on the field during possibly the most clutch defensive moment!?!?!?[/b]

Shoot me.

But F you too Brooks. Not one single good punt today and he DEFINITELY directly contributed to our loss.[/quote]

While I don't say cut Torrance, if he turns his head left instead of right we're not even having this discussion. Brooks was about 5th on the list of culpable Redskins today.

Slingin Sammy 33 10-12-2008 05:47 PM

Re: The Official Cut Durant Brooks Thread
 
You guys yelling to cut the punter will be the same ones screaming that the FO is stupid when they let him go and he goes on to be a solid punter somewhere else.

Brooks all of a sudden didn't turn into a crappy punter because he's struggled the first few games of the season. Give the kid a little time. If we're relying on a PUNTER to get us out of bad field position several times AGAINST THE SCRAMS then we've got a lot of bigger concerns.

killromo 10-12-2008 05:59 PM

Re: The Official Cut Durant Brooks Thread
 
he can't hold the ball or kick it. this isn't the first week for his antics. but for now we're stuck with him so Let's murder the browns next week plus its a 4:00 game so we can all be nice and drunk and fired up for kickoff.

vallin21 10-12-2008 06:03 PM

Re: The Official Cut Durant Brooks Thread
 
Give Brooks some time. I mean what if we release he him and he makes 7 pro bowls. I'm just saying I'm not real concerned about Brooks honestly. We have bigger issues.

skinsfan69 10-12-2008 06:22 PM

Re: The Official Cut Durant Brooks Thread
 
[quote=LMsexyAO;488883]I don't think anything else needs to be said. Another horrible game from him that directly led to our loss today. Unacceptable.[/quote]

He certainly didn't help but I wouldn't say he "directly" led to us losing. There were many factors that led to us losing. He was one of many.

SantanaMan 10-12-2008 06:28 PM

Re: The Official Cut Durant Brooks Thread
 
Whilst it would be great to give Brooks time, he is hurting us BADLY right now. Just check the stats on NFL.com, in both gross and net punting he ranks 33rd in the league (THIRTY THIRD!!! in a 32 team league!), so not only is he the leagues worst regular punter, but theres been a team thats had 2 better than him! ... and that was before todays nightmare.

Special teams overall scares me, another KO out of bounds from Suisham, A.R.E and his 6.8 punt return avg is not gonna cut it, the poor punting, giving up 2 return TDs already. Rocks play and Suishams FG kicking are bright spots in an area that is sorely lacking them.

rypper11 10-12-2008 06:51 PM

Re: The Official Cut Durant Brooks Thread
 
[quote=Vulta121;489003]we need to cut the punter and the kicker[/quote]

What? Why cut Suisham? He's been a bright spot all season and made his only attempts this week. Instead of cutting him how about not expecting him to angle his kickoffs or squib them when the KOcoverage unit is playing really well.


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