Re: Skins in early contract talks with Hall to keep him in DC
 

I just hope this doesn't eventually mean the end of Rogers, who really had a breakout year. Spurning the guy we drafted in favor of someone else's free agent would kind of be a Vinny thing to do (although what is up with that draft pick comment? Were you joking or drinking a little too much egg nog?)

Re: Skins in early contract talks with Hall to keep him in DC
 

It won't be too much longer before there will be no more reason to care what size contract a guy gets. We're headed for an end to the salary cap era. Pretty soon, he who has the gold will get his players with no consequences. We can go after the Texieras and Sabathias of football and have no problems.

I say sign Hall for whatever it takes. Having young guys locked up to long term deals is heavily advantageous as we enter the new age in 2010.

Re: Skins in early contract talks with Hall to keep him in DC
 

Hall was a cancer in Atlanta, he was mediocre in Oakland, and he has been pretty good in his few games here. He is one of the best corners in the league, you cannot teach speed. I think with us he will play well, we have to sign him.

Re: Skins in early contract talks with Hall to keep him in DC
 

[quote=GTripp0012;515370]I feel like Hall has earned his job for next year with some solid play at corner, but I don't think he's earned anything past another look in 2009.[/quote]

Boy, football is a funny game because honestly, Hall has to thank DeSean Jackson for the fan's perception of him this week.

Jackson holds on to both of those balls and suddenly everyone is talking about how Hall shouldn't get a big contract because he can't defend the deep ball.

Re: Skins in early contract talks with Hall to keep him in DC
 

[quote=Drift Reality;515403]Boy, football is a funny game because honestly, Hall has to thank DeSean Jackson for the fan's perception of him this week.

Jackson holds on to both of those balls and suddenly everyone is talking about how Hall shouldn't get a big contract because he can't defend the deep ball.[/quote]

Thats a great point. Imagine if we were talking about Rogers


:doh:

Re: Skins in early contract talks with Hall to keep him in DC
 

sign him, get it done........springs needs to stay no matter what........no faith in rogers and smoot......but i think carlos played himself out of a position and he shouldnt be in our future plans........i hate saying that cause he had a good start to the season, but its true. all this makes resigning hall a priority not a luxury.....he should be our number 1 target......

Re: Skins in early contract talks with Hall to keep him in DC
 

LOCK EM UP. Hes a special player. We need somebody to INT the ball. Im a big fan of Carlos Rogers BUT.. Carlos will knock it down...thats fine...sometimes....but Hall will take it away.

Re: Skins in early contract talks with Hall to keep him in DC
 

[quote=GTripp0012;515387]The Bengals receivers did a number on him as well.

Hall is what he is. He's not a great player, but if you throw it to him, he'll catch it and return it the other way. Rogers is much better in coverage, espically zone, but he's a good bet to drop it. They would make an interesting duo, that's for sure.

[B]Smoot's pretty useless, though. He's like the worst of Rogers and the worst of Hall rolled up into one player.[/B][/quote]

:laughing2 Smooter's gone from one of my favorite team personalities to maybe the one guy on the team I don't mind hearing trashed a little bit... cause yeah his play makes me want to throw my Crown and Coke @ the TV.

Is there anyway when we cut him as a player he can stay on as some sort of mascot though?

Re: Skins in early contract talks with Hall to keep him in DC
 

...of course with the re-signing of Hall it would put more pressure on Carlos for the starting spot. But who knows how many game Shawn Springs will play next season and theyre both extemely valuable. Rogers is a great man to man CB and im glad to have him in the secondary.

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[quote=djnemo65;515388]I just hope this doesn't eventually mean the end of Rogers, who really had a breakout year. Spurning the guy we drafted in favor of someone else's free agent would kind of be a Vinny thing to do [B](although what is up with that draft pick comment? Were you joking or drinking a little too much egg nog?)[/B][/quote]


Well, both, but the egg nog didn't confuse me about the negotiations which is why I wrote "Yeah, I know, it doesn't make sense, but don't put it past VC."

The joke was that Vinny is so enamored with throwing away draft picks that he would even do it when re-negotiating a contract. It wasn't a particularly good joke (evidently).

Re: Skins in early contract talks with Hall to keep him in DC
 

Carlos could be good trade bait this year,......just think his value hasn't been higher since the draft, so maybe moving him, getting rid of some of those big contracts, springs, washington, ARE, ect. we could be making a move for a couple of draft picks,...maybe a 2nd and 4th, possible 5th with Rogers. just a thought?

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honestly i would rather say goodbye to Shawn Springs

Re: Skins in early contract talks with Hall to keep him in DC
 

[quote=DarkKnight;515525]Carlos could be good trade bait this year,......just think his value hasn't been higher since the draft, so maybe moving him, getting rid of some of those big contracts, springs, washington, ARE, ect. we could be making a move for a couple of draft picks,...maybe a 2nd and 4th, possible 5th with Rogers. just a thought?[/quote]
why would we want to trade him? good cover corners are hard to find. and Los easily had his best season as a redskin. if anyone has to go, its smooty. cant cover my grandma( and she has been dead for 10 years)

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So if we cut Springs and trade Carlos, who the hell is going to play corner next year? Hall and Smoot? I'm not sure it would be wise to get rid of both of them, then all of a sudden corner is a huge need.

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[quote=djnemo65;515388]I just hope this doesn't eventually mean the end of Rogers, who really had a breakout year. Spurning the guy we drafted in favor of someone else's free agent would kind of be a Vinny thing to do (although what is up with that draft pick comment? Were you joking or drinking a little too much egg nog?)[/quote]

Hall is a #1 corner. Rogers isnt.