Re: Demetric Evans ....start me or lose me
 

[quote=Trample the Elderly;527761]So . . . . Who starts if he doesn't?[/quote]

Could be Daniels, or Taylor if he is brought back.

I know... not great options, which makes bringing back Evans pretty important if you ask me.

Re: Demetric Evans ....start me or lose me
 

Thing is Evans' greatest value is probably not as a starter anyway. As BHA points out, the guy is versatile enough to play both DE and DT. He's a versatile backup who can slide into multiple positions when asked.

Re: Demetric Evans ....start me or lose me
 

[quote=Mattyk72;527762]Could be Daniels, or Taylor if he is brought back.

I know... [B]not great options[/B], which makes bringing back Evans pretty important if you ask me.[/quote]

Exactly. Pay him what he's worth and play him. If you don't have anyone that's better than where do you go? Overpay him a little if you have to. How much production did we get out of Taylor yet we want to gripe about a few measily 500k here or there?

Re: Demetric Evans ....start me or lose me
 

Well he only made 869,000 last year. 1.5 might get him to sign and he's definitely worth that. I think Daniels makes 2 mil.

Re: Demetric Evans ....start me or lose me
 

We could probably gauge the "This is Vinnys ship now" by this move alone. I say if he elects to let Evens walk in favor of keeping a 36 year old Daniels, then its the same old same old. And this decision can be projected throughout the entire FA/Draft/Cut process. IMO

Re: Demetric Evans ....start me or lose me
 

This is all straight from the Rosenhaus playbook. Get the media involved, throw out a veiled (or outright) threat, generate a buzz, leading to a bigger contract.

Signing Evans is a key priority. He's versatile and solid. BHA is probably right on with the $$$ about $ 1.5M or so per year, 4 yr. deal. Once Evans is signed, either Taylor or Daniels can be released. Probably Daniels due to injury issues and the fact that he can't switch to LB like JT. The FO will hold Taylor pending what happens in the draft or if a better FA LB is signed. Bottom line, unless Raji slips, any DL upgrade waits until next year.

Re: Demetric Evans ....start me or lose me
 

[quote=44ever;527768]We could probably gauge the "This is Vinnys ship now" by this move alone. I say if he elects to let Evens walk in favor of keeping a 36 year old Daniels, then its the same old same old. And this decision can be projected throughout the entire FA/Draft/Cut process. IMO[/quote]

Excellent point. The trade for Taylor last year can atleast be understood in terms of a desperation move.... and one that was praised by many prominent media outlets at the time. Drafting 3 pass catchers in the 2nd round can even be rationalized.

But letting Evans walk and retaining Taylor and/or Daniels now would be completely inexcuseable. Like you indicated, what Cerrato does here will show us whether he is really trying to build for the future or if he's stuck in the same "win now" mentality that has plagued our franchise for years.

Re: Demetric Evans ....start me or lose me
 

[quote=53Fan;527767]Well he only made 869,000 last year. 1.5 might get him to sign and he's definitely worth that. I think Daniels makes 2 mil.[/quote]

Daniels makes $2.2M. He's 6 years older than Evans and makes nearly 3x as much. I think Demetric deserves a pay raise, and I'm no cap expert, but I think something in 3-4 year, $6M-$7M range sounds fair. Maybe with like $4M guaranteed.

He's tough, he works his tail off, he's never been a problem in any way, he has the versatility to play end or tackle, and is a solid run stopper. All that said, he's simply not a great or even very good player. I'd say he's teetering on the line of great backup/average starter.

Re: Demetric Evans ....start me or lose me
 

As a role player ..Yes A starter bu bye

Re: Demetric Evans ....start me or lose me
 

when daniels went down i will never ever understand why evans wasn't handed the job. i like evans, he's been a solid player for us for a while now. the problem is he really isn't a difference maker. i say keep him. he deserves a chance to be the starter and he deserves a raise.

Re: Demetric Evans ....start me or lose me
 

Pay him what he is worth. A solid backup DLineman who can spot start at DE and DT and play adequately to decent. He isn't a starter talent and he will get no opportunities to be an outright starter anywhere else in the league. At least I'd be shocked if he did. But as far as depth on the line he is a perfect example of someone we'd need to keep.

Re: Demetric Evans ....start me or lose me
 

[quote=GMScud;527774]Daniels makes $2.2M. He's 6 years older than Evans and makes nearly 3x as much. I think Demetric deserves a pay raise, and I'm no cap expert, but I think something in 3-4 year, $6M-$7M range sounds fair. Maybe with like $4M guaranteed.

He's tough, he works his tail off, he's never been a problem in any way, he has the versatility to play end or tackle, and is a solid run stopper. All that said, he's simply not a great or even very good player. I'd say he's teetering on the line of great backup/average starter.[/quote]

Excellent points IMO. See i think Evans (and his agent) think they've got a strong position here. They figure he is the best option at LDE because of Daniels age/injury and Taylor's massive expense and questionable run-stopping ability. Also besides Peppers there isn't much on the FA market for LDE. Evans is the defacto starter already and I don't think he's asking for a truckload... anyway this is just smart business on his part and I think we can sign him for a reasonable sum. This really isn't even an issue so long as the FO has decided to let Daniels walk... we save over $2 million cap hit on Daniels this year and can put a chunk toward Evans. No big deal. This only gets complicated if the FO wants to keep Daniels and/or Taylor.

Re: Demetric Evans ....start me or lose me
 

[quote=SmootSmack;527711]"I've proven I can start in one of the toughest divisions in football," Evans said this week. "I don't want to be a backup anymore. I started in 2005 at tackle when Cornelius [Griffin] was hurt, and I started at end when Phillip [Daniels] was hurt in 2004 and again last year.[B] I want to stay in Washington, but I want to be a starter." [/B]

Sounds like he's saying he wants to start[/quote]Reading between the lines, I would say that he wants to be paid like a starter. Not sure whether he's worth that kind of commitment, unless we're talking low-end starter money.

Re: Demetric Evans ....start me or lose me
 

id rather get rid of daniels the him thats for sure ...

CHANCE, being the operative word, 2 be a starter, id like to keep him here. hes not bad

Re: Demetric Evans ....start me or lose me
 

[quote=SmootSmack;527765]Thing is Evans' greatest value is probably not as a starter anyway. As BHA points out, the guy is versatile enough to play both DE and DT. He's a versatile backup who can slide into multiple positions when asked.[/quote]

What makes Evans a backup rather than a starter in your opinion. Going into 09'