Re: Kevin Barnes might be a beast undercover
 

[quote=Ruhskins;552402]Cop out answer I think. Our record over the past 10 years is not on the FO alone.[/quote]

A cop out? How so? Last time I checked success was determined by wins and losses. The people in the front office along with Dan Snyder are the ones most directly responisble for assembling the talent we have on the field and the coaching staff which directs them. That talent has been able to muster a 7-9 season average over the last ten years.

If somebody is assigned the task of hiring a staff to run an office, and the staff turns out to be completely unqualified and consistently doesn't produce results, who is ultimately to blame?

Re: Kevin Barnes might be a beast undercover
 

[quote=tryfuhl;552406]Well you can't say that you lost individual games because of the FO so much, but it's their responsibility to make sure that they have the players and personnel in place to generate wins. It's that way in all of business, which football is one.[/quote]

True, I was just saying how blaming everything on the FO (i.e. the whole record example) is a cop out answer to argument that our scouts probably know better than the pundits.

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[quote=Beemnseven;552408]A cop out? How so? Last time I checked success was determined by wins and losses. The people in the front office along with Dan Snyder are the ones most directly responisble for assembling the talent we have on the field and the coaching staff which directs them. That talent has been able to muster a 7-9 season average over the last ten years.

If somebody is assigned the task of hiring a staff to run an office, and the staff turns out to be completely unqualified and consistently doesn't produce results, who is ultimately to blame?[/quote]

Ok then, how do you measure the success of a sport pundit then? If the argument is that our FO scouts probably know more than these sports pundits.

Re: Kevin Barnes might be a beast undercover
 

Being a student at Maryland, I have seen him play ALOT of game. He is not the big "ST" hitter that everyone thinks he is. Every now and then when he has the right angles he will take someone out. That being said, he is an awsome corner with great hands, he knows where to be at all times, he is very fast and could really be a good NFL corner. Just because he took out the dude from Cal doesn't mean he is a big hitter, he is actually kinda small.

Re: Kevin Barnes might be a beast undercover
 

IMO we already had the strongest defensive backfield in the league. Adding depth can't hurt

Re: Kevin Barnes might be a beast undercover
 

[quote=DoggDayAfternoon;552430]IMO we already had the strongest defensive backfield in the league. Adding depth can't hurt[/quote]

Strongest in the NFC IMO...but could be elite by end of year. Landry really, really is due for a breakout season.

Re: Kevin Barnes might be a beast undercover
 

[quote=JLW428;552426]Being a student at Maryland, I have seen him play ALOT of game. He is not the big "ST" hitter that everyone thinks he is. Every now and then when he has the right angles he will take someone out. That being said, he is an awsome corner with great hands, he knows where to be at all times, he is very fast and could really be a good NFL corner. Just because he took out the dude from Cal doesn't mean he is a big hitter, he is actually kinda small.[/quote]

You have a point.. He's a great cover corner with very good change of direction and long arms/ soft hands... He's a real steal because barring the shoulder injury, He would go in the first to second round. Like You said also, He takes good pursuit to the carrier angles and with wrap technique tackling work, will be a good take down threat at any part of the field.. Potential starter?? Yes by the next season.

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Can't wait for the annual Portis vs Landry vs Barnes race.

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Apparently Barnes is a bit of a big hitter.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/profiles/kevin-barnes?id=80628]National Football League: NFL Draft 2009 - Kevin Barnes[/url]

[QUOTE]Known as the Atlantic Coast Conference's hardest-hitting tackler, Barnes became a YouTube sensation after that service began showing the vicious hit he delivered on California's Jahvid Best early last season that caused the running back to "lose his lunch" from the bone-jarring tackle. But making sensational tackles had become a normal thing for the Terrapin defender. "That's probably the hardest hit I've ever taken in my life," Best said at the time. "It really knocked the wind out of me, and I had a little trouble breathing for the rest of the game."

[B]During 2008 spring camp, Barnes stopped running back Morgan Green (who outweighed him by 30 pounds) in his tracks[/B] during an intra-squad game, leaving his teammate being carried off the field.[/QUOTE]

Re: Kevin Barnes might be a beast undercover
 

I kinda think this pick spells the end for Smoot more than it does Rogers

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;553386]I kinda think this pick spells the end for Smoot more than it does Rogers[/quote]

I truly hope he does well with the Redskins. As a Terp alum, it would be great to root for another former Terp in B&G. :woot:

Re: Kevin Barnes might be a beast undercover
 

Barnes do sounds pretty good so far, hope he can do same thing in NFL.. Although he definitely needs to bulk up to prevent injuries.. I think he will do good at ending of the season or next year..

However I hope this would not mean the ending of Rogers.. I really like him, and hope we will be able to extend him to something similar with Hall's contract.. If we are able to retain Rogers, and Barnes develops then we definitely will have pretty defense for years, assuming we will address LB soon through free agency or draft..

Edit: And what the hell is up with this refreshing the page whenever someone posts?

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Barnes will be a legit number one corner if he stays healthy. Bad thing is that's a big if.

Re: Kevin Barnes might be a beast undercover
 

[quote=GridIron26;553388]Barnes do sounds pretty good so far, hope he can do same thing in NFL.. Although he definitely needs to bulk up to prevent injuries.. I think he will do good at ending of the season or next year..

However I hope this would not mean the ending of Rogers.. I really like him, and hope we will be able to extend him to something similar with Hall's contract.. If we are able to retain Rogers, and Barnes develops then we definitely will have pretty defense for years, assuming we will address LB soon through free agency or draft..

[B]Edit: And what the hell is up with this refreshing the page whenever someone posts?[/B][/quote]

I've been having the same problem, well when I use Firefox. It's been a bit annoying.

Re: Kevin Barnes might be a beast undercover
 

[quote=GridIron26;553388]Barnes do sounds pretty good so far, hope he can do same thing in NFL.. Although he definitely needs to bulk up to prevent injuries.. I think he will do good at ending of the season or next year..

However I hope this would not mean the ending of Rogers.. I really like him, and hope we will be able to extend him to something similar with Hall's contract.. If we are able to retain Rogers, and Barnes develops then we definitely will have pretty defense for years, assuming we will address LB soon through free agency or draft..

Edit: And what the hell is up with this refreshing the page whenever someone posts?[/quote]

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/playbook/29577-live-topic-new-post.html[/url]

I think Barnes more likely signals the end of Smoot