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PennSkinsFan 12-09-2009 02:53 PM

Re: Ganther likely to start vs Oakland and other notes from Sherm Smith interview
 
[URL="http://dcprosportsreport.com/2009/12/09/redskins-promote-ganther-to-starter.html"][B]http://dcprosportsreport.com/2009/12/09/redskins-promote-ganther-to-starter.html[/B][/URL]

It's official. Even though we caught word a few days ago.

Paintrain 12-09-2009 05:58 PM

RI: Ganther the new starting RB-Rock whines again
 
[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/jason-reid/zorn-elaborates-on-rb-rotation.html]Redskins Insider - Zorn elaborates on RB rotation[/url]

I really want to like Rock, I do, but I don't get where he gets this impression that he's Jim Brown in waiting but he just hadn't gotten the chance.

[quote=Rock Cartrwright]
"It's kind of hard for a RB to get in a rhythm when you have five carries in the first half, then you don't carry the ball again until the second half," Cartwright said. "It's hard to produce that way. Going in the game [and] telling the back you're gonna take two series and this guy's gonna take two series, it's hard to get hot. You're doing RB by committee, you got to go off a feel, who's playing better. When you give somebody five carries in the first half, they don't play again until the second half, of course you can't expect somebody to go out and be fresh right then.

"It doesn't matter who it is. I think you have to give a RB the opportunity to get a rhythm. You can't go into the game saying, we're gonna give you two series, we're gonna give this guy two series, we're gonna give this guy two series. [B][I]When you're doing RB by committee, you can ask any RB in the league, if you go in the game and you get five carries and not get another carry until the second half - what do they expect? I think I might've had five carries for 20-some-odd yards in the first series and then I don't carry the ball again until the second half? I mean, that's crazy.[/I][/B]" [/quote]

2 points. First point-Why does he act like he's the best RB to never get a chance? He had opportunities and didn't capitalize on them. Deal with it, know your role and limitations and excel within them. Second point-If this was Portis or another highly paid player saying this fans would be ALL over him. Why does Rock get a pass?

Anyways, I hope Ganther does well and provides a solid presence in the running game..

duetsch215 12-09-2009 06:06 PM

Re: RI: Ganther the new starting RB-Rock whines again
 
everyone in the NFL has an ego...they have to. And he is exactly right. You cant go into a game with a set plan of personnel and plays because it never happens the way you want it to. You have to play it by ear. That means that if anyone on your team is hot, keep them in there even if your play sheet says not to.

SmootSmack 12-09-2009 06:07 PM

Re: RI: Ganther the new starting RB-Rock whines again
 
I thought I heard that Rock told Zorn and Danny Smith that if he's not starting he would rather just play special teams.

Anyway, Rock fails to realize that the Redskins took advantage of Campbell's hot hand and the weaknesses in the Saints secondary. Meanwhile Rock had three carries for like 1 yard in the first half if I remember right. Ganther had two for 10 yards.

mlmdub130 12-09-2009 06:07 PM

Re: RI: Ganther the new starting RB-Rock whines again
 
[quote=Paintrain;637399]



2 points. First point-Why does he act like he's the best RB to never get a chance? [B] He had opportunities and didn't capitalize on them[/B]. Deal with it, know your role and limitations and excel within them. Second point-If this was Portis or another highly paid player saying this fans would be ALL over him. Why does Rock get a pass?

Anyways, I hope Ganther does well and provides a solid presence in the running game..[/quote]

i would say he did in dallas, and isn't there already a rock\ganther thread

SmootSmack 12-09-2009 06:09 PM

Re: RI: Ganther the new starting RB-Rock whines again
 
Correction, he did have one carry that went about 15 yards. So it wasn't 1 yard. Either way, I understand his frustration but it's pretty clear that Ganther is more explosive

SmootSmack 12-09-2009 06:11 PM

Re: RI: Ganther the new starting RB-Rock whines again
 
[quote=mlmdub130;637404]i would say he did in dallas, and isn't there already a rock\ganther thread[/quote]

There is I'm going to merge that one into this one since this one has more recent info

Hog1 12-09-2009 07:19 PM

Re: Ganther likely to start vs Oakland and other notes from Sherm Smith interview
 
Rock has always been a solid player in relief, and a great teams guy.
He has been years with the team and had............MANY coaching eyes observing him. You would think if he some as yet undiscovered and miraculous talent, it would have been noticed.
Close your mouth and do your job. Be happy you have the coolest job on the planet?

sportscurmudgeon 12-09-2009 10:33 PM

Re: Ganther likely to start vs Oakland and other notes from Sherm Smith interview
 
My problem with Thomas as the kick returner is that too often he gets stopped at or inside the 20. That is a killer; most of the time he is returning a kick because the other team scored; the offense needs field position.

Cartwright may not be a blazer, but in the last 5 years that he has been returning kicks, I don't think he's been stopped inside the 20 more than once or twice...

mlmdub130 12-09-2009 10:52 PM

Re: Ganther likely to start vs Oakland and other notes from Sherm Smith interview
 
[quote=sportscurmudgeon;637456]My problem with Thomas as the kick returner is that too often he gets stopped at or inside the 20. That is a killer; most of the time he is returning a kick because the other team scored; the offense needs field position.

Cartwright may not be a blazer, but in the last 5 years that he has been returning kicks, I don't think he's been stopped inside the 20 more than once or twice...[/quote]

while thats true why not see what he has the last few weeks, we really have nothing to lose, and while rock always gets it past the 20 he rarely gets it past the 35

Eknox 12-10-2009 12:49 AM

Re: Ganther likely to start vs Oakland and other notes from Sherm Smith interview
 
[quote=SolidSnake84;636993]That being said, i wonder if the skins will use a draft pick on a RB, or will they just go the way of trying to fill holes through free agency...[/quote]
If so please let it be CJ Spiller he's a beast.

44Deezel 12-10-2009 06:46 AM

Re: Ganther likely to start vs Oakland and other notes from Sherm Smith interview
 
[quote=SolidSnake84;636983]Cartwright just hasn't had the chance in the time he's been here....If he got the chance more often i guarantee he'd up his game.[/quote]

Most teams platoon their backfield and get plenty of production from their backs, regardless of how many carries they give them. RBs need to produce whether they get 1 or 30 carries. That's the reality these days. The rhythm argument is bogus. It's the same excuse Campbell used when he was struggling earlier in the year.

SmootSmack 12-10-2009 01:34 PM

Re: Ganther likely to start vs Oakland and other notes from Sherm Smith interview
 
In other Oakland news...Haynesworth won't play. It's buy one basket get one free nacho night at Verizon Center

mlmdub130 12-10-2009 01:49 PM

Re: Ganther likely to start vs Oakland and other notes from Sherm Smith interview
 
[quote=SmootSmack;637664]In other Oakland news...Haynesworth won't play. It's buy one basket get one free nacho night at Verizon Center[/quote]

that sob, what about hall? he's gotta be ready to go by now right

SmootSmack 12-10-2009 01:51 PM

Re: Ganther likely to start vs Oakland and other notes from Sherm Smith interview
 
[quote=mlmdub130;637674]that sob, what about hall? he's gotta be ready to go by now right[/quote]

haven't heard anything


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